GuildWars Marathon

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

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Guild Race , the first team to arrive wins.
i would love to make this long distance , but the only way to avoid people from using the map is , each team takes 1 jury to control jumping towns with map.
my first idea was something like :
ascalon to grotto
making team sizes of only 3 person , number 4 is jury.
but if start in ToA 7 person teams would be possible

what do you think ?

One and Two

One and Two

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

? Map jump...

With party groups in Ascalon maxing out at 4, it would be near impossible to prevent cheating...

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

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yes , that makes it a lot more hard to produce such event , we need a lot of jurys , or make it time atack

Lag Hell

Lag Hell

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

wow... howd u come up with that idea...

M1h4iL

M1h4iL

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Perth, Australia

Sounds like an idea, if you got the time..

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

This could be possible with the new spectator feature. Ok, so say there is 4 people in the race. From Ascalon they take off to the Breach. The party doesn't zone until the last one hits the Breach. Say they were 10 seconds apart. The one in first place has a 10 second head start before #2 can move. (of course there should be some kind of global halt until everyone loads) Repeat the process until everyone is running. 1st one to Sanctum Cay wins.

One thing to consider is that the lead person will be caught simply because of autorun. When you follow someone by select/space, you are on the shortest path to them. This feature that is already in the game would prevent someone having an overwhelming lead.

Any thoughts on if they should ban run skills in the race?

Rieselle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Melbourne, Australia

E/Rt

Heheh, axtually, when I read the title, I had thought you meant a marathon, like a movie marathon...

Get your entire guild to spend as long as humanly possible on GW in one sitting, no afk longer than 5 mins for toilet :P

LiQuId StEeL

LiQuId StEeL

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

/u/liquidsteel30

Ego Trip From Rank [ZERO]

W/Mo

You could start at ToA with 7 people from ONE guild, and an "uninterested" judge. Time is kept by the judge, and the fastest guild time to Grotto/Citadel wins. You wouldnt have to wait for anyone, just egt 7 people together and find a Judge (someone who posts here maybe?). Only one person woud have to make it.

John Waffletord

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Baltimore, MD, USA

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sereng Amaranth
Any thoughts on if they should ban run skills in the race?
So how exactly would they get passed the hundreds of mobs without running skills?

I think it would be better to go from ascalon to the furthest point west..

Anyone can make the run from Ascalon to beacon's perch.. then its just down to war camp and over to citadel.

pyrohex

pyrohex

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Just hope for no Err=7's.

Tmm Ryan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Plkn

no offense. but i dont think it will work.

Fenix Swiftblade

Fenix Swiftblade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Illusion of Competence

R/W

What you would need is a sponsor guild. One that will not have a team in the race, but will instead collect entry fees, pay prize money, and provide judges to the teams that are running. With this method you could have the race be from Ascalon to Hells Precipice (minus the doppleganger quest, just need the judge to OK the warp from augury to dragons lair after the 3 desert missions are completed).

Basically this would be a race to see how fast a team of one less than max can complete the game, including ascension, at max level. If it could be verified it would be better to have each team member face his doppleganger, but this would be too hard to prevent cheating without dev support.

dr_james2k

dr_james2k

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

The Guild of Kings

Me/E

I thought of this idea, thought not in as much detail and I think it would be great. From Old Ascalon all the way to Santium Cay. Or further as suggested by allowing warping. Using a relay idea would work as in start off with 4 then pick up 2 more from the guild at yak's bend, check in with register's along the way. If someone is suspected of 'traveling' (ie. they manage to get somewhere a bit too fast or they don't turn up in a group) then they are disqualified. Of course it shouldn't involve assecenion or anything like that, just traveling from one place to next as fast as possible. This may be something to mention to the frog next time somebody sees him. Judges either can wait in towns/outposts recording when guilds pass though (as it would be best to have only one group from a guild to keep it simple) by one member of the group checking in with the judge (the judges could all be from one guild so they can easily be spotted in the towns). And also as mention judges can travel with the groups to keep an eye on them. I really like this idea and hope to see some people try and implement it.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Easy fix on "town jumping"....each party would have to consist of a newly created character, fresh from presearing - and I mean level 1 or level 2, so it's near impossible that they've gone any distance in the game. They can't jump to the towns without him, and they have to cross the finish line with him.

I would say the finish line would have to be before ascension - no way to prevent runners to droknar's, etc and the ascension quest automatically results in splitting up the group.

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Do it in reverse. Start everyone in Droks, party size 8. Race to Beacons, last 2 get dropped. From Beacons head to Yaks, and then into Ascalon, say Courthouse. Last 2 get dropped again. From there it's a quick sprint into the city.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

so whats the grand prize?

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by sir skulkcrasher
so whats the grand prize?
A couple of ideas:

1. Each team puts up 50K. The "moderator" will pay the 100K total to the winner.

2. A free guild battle, where the loser allows the other team to beat them in a GvG match. Good for ladder rankings, etc.

NekoZ

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Long Island

So Goth We Crap [Bats]

Unless you have a person in every district of every town.. then there is a good chance of cheating.

bobrath

bobrath

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Scouts of Tyria

Each participating guild must provide one player with a very low level char (as close to 1 as possible) in addition to their team. That low level char becomes the "judge" for another team. Basically just verifies that the team did not map warp anywhere. Since the low level char could die right away, you have an observer.

Participating guilds can grow the groups as they reach areas allowing it by having new members join (the new members can warp to the correct district/town while the actual group does not). Or you could just restrict teams to the 3 + judge squad .... or allow them to pick up henchies if they wish to grow.

The "judges" and any interested "viewers" can join a teamspeak or ventrillo server for play by play calls and updates.

Hard for collusion to happen as the assignment of judge to team would be random and any attempt to bribe might become public. Plus since the judge is a low level char, map warping with the judge still along would be near impossible.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

I want to judge!

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

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spectating mode will be very usefull for this ...
the talk to frog idea is good , if the computer software can control who wins and who cheats , sounds perfect ...

something like a quest

with a start line and count down to open the door ... like in pvp
and why not a finish line with some npc claping

you pay to do quest , winner gets most of the money , i dont say all , cose the production team needs to feed their babys.

Crowskie

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

AR, US

FLA

R/Me

I say you get your stuff together and contact Anet about your guild wanting to put on an event. They may have a way to disable map jumping.

Nisha

Nisha

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

E/W

Hah, I was just thinking about this the other day and decided to do a search for it. Although I was thinking more on the lines of single person runs with the second person along as a judge.
Like the idea of having one guy die at the start of each map run to observe that there's no cheating.
I was also wondering about another possible loophole though. Running into mobs about 1/2, 3/4 of the way up and dying so that they get resurrected at the shrine nearest to the map out point. Maybe it should be shortest time and least number of deaths to win? The judge can keep count of deaths.

Morangen

Morangen

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mountain West

Xen of Onslaught[XoO]

Mo/W

This would take a lot of coordination to pull off and keep everything fair, but I think it would be awesome to watch / participate in.

Guillaume De Sonoma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

aFk

Me/Rt

you have a good idea but I think it would be better with this solution. Have the guilds provide the three runners and one member from another guild *not in the race* that has been newly created. Or if you cannot trust them I know plenty of people who would like a free run to droks (myself included). But I think the best idea is use people that you can trust or know personally. Because say joe blow from guru says I'll be a judge and has already gotten to droks without leveling much gets offered a fourth of the grand prize and agrees to take it you can't really stop them.

but you have a very good idea

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

I think its a great idea... i only have one question.... why?

Nisha

Nisha

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

E/W

It would be a fun community event for those involved...
Those who are in it honestly and for fun and prizes and unfortunately those who just want the prize and will try to cheat to get it.
Granted it might not seem so fun once you're up to your ears in planning and organising and management. Nonetheless if it ever happens I think I would feel that it was fun in the end.

A few things:
1. Although a run from Ascalon City to Bloodstone Fen would be cool, it would be good to start small to test things out first. Best to chart a run that no one really does. Maybe starting at Grendich Courthouse, once round Dragon's Gullet and back.
2. A good runner to test run the course has to be done so approx. time to run it is known. That way if anyone is way under that there is some reason to suspect they were cheating.
3. Random assignment of the accompanying judges might be better. It's too easy for teams to bring friends even if they are from different guilds. Put all the judges' names in a bowl and pick from there.
4. Definitely need checkpoints at designated cities.
5. Might need to limit the number of participants, which is out of style with a Marathon I know, but it would be nearly impossible to manage 100 or so players. Not to mention 8.

I think I've been thinking about this too much...ah well, anyone? anyone?

killer toast

killer toast

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

im a guild RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO so not gonna waste time

W/Mo

no offense but these types of races dont work because most of the time its based on luck(just stand back let the person get crippled or frozen then run past and win) we did this in LBS but it wasnt that fun :/

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

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well , everygame depends on luck at some point ...

Doikor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Finland

Storm Bearers [SB]

Me/

wraps could work as "judge". Every member of the team needs to provide the video if asked.