Europeans come back

Medion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands

Why wont all European ppl in American servers come back to Europe?

I mean, it`s ok that u want to do UW/FoW more, but Europe is getting favor more and more (at the most important times).

So, all come back and have fun in European servers!!

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Medion
Why wont all European ppl in American servers come back to Europe?

I mean, it`s ok that u want to do UW/FoW more, but Europe is getting favor more and more (at the most important times).

So, all come back and have fun in European servers!!
No...

I moved to the American servers 2 days after release when I got the game.. why do you ask?

- Lack of English speaking people, no one was talking English

Pure and simple, the favour thing has nothing to do with it, since I was new to the game, plus I couldn't care less for UW or FoW even 300+ hours into the game.

I'm staying thank you, the European servers have nothing to offer me.

Medion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands

For your information, the European servers are now seperated in English, German, French, Italian and Spanish.

But I was pointing at the people who DID move there because of favor

Kampfkeks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

I just did move over to the american realm. I tried to stay loyal to europe for a long time and after getting one of those "we implemented languages.. yay for languages" crap response on the World at Flaw System i simply switched over.

The only thing getting me back to the european realm is a fix of the system. Nothing else. Well pity is i will now fight tombs against europe. But i don't care anymore and i'd advice EVERY european to switch over to the american realm as well. Besides, shortly before i switched the european servers started lagging again. For me... and for most of the folks on my friendslist. And considering the last lag catastrophe europe had... well that just helped us switch.

IceD'Bear

IceD'Bear

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Awoken Myth [MYTH]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
- Lack of English speaking people, no one was talking English
Quote:
Originally Posted by GW Update Notes
Update – Wednesday, June 1

* Added language-specific districts to European servers. There are now different districts for each supported language: English, French, German, Italian, and Spanish. Players are placed by default into the district that matches their current language preference, but can still travel freely to any available district or to the International District.
I guess you can come back now

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by IceD'Bear
I guess you can come back now
Nope, I did port back there for a time, only to find that the divide has resulted in less players in all the disticts... a counter productive action on A.net parts... and limited use universal translator would have been more ideal, but I guess that asking for a lot.

As it stands, American servers (Even with all the rude people) has more on offer due to the higher player numbers.

Not my fault A.nets marketing in Europe sucks and there not as many people playing it there.

Medion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands

Quote:
Not my fault A.nets marketing in Europe sucks and there not as many people playing it there
Uh.... guy, why do I want people to come back u think?

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Medion
Uh.... guy, why do I want people to come back u think?
Good point, but I guess I found my home in the US servers, all my UK friends are here, I'd be hard pressed to get them back.

If A.net got rid of that 5 times to move only thing it would help... but guess that never going to happen.

Medion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands

Guess not either, everyone would just go along with the favor.

tripplesix

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

you guys are forgetting the major lag europe had for 3 weeks during the summer. alot of people changed servers during that time.

Medion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands

Quote:
you guys are forgetting the major lag europe had for 3 weeks during the summer. alot of people changed servers during that time.
Although English is not my first language, but i think that is past tense. Doesn`t past tense mean that it is over?

And again, do you think that all the American ppl will change district when they have lag? I can`t imagine all american ppl coming to Europe.

LeftAlone-

LeftAlone-

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Finland...

I dont play GW anymore.

I prefer all english and my guild is american-heavy.
And I don't play UW/Fissure.

tripplesix

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Medion
Although English is not my first language, but i think that is past tense. Doesn`t past tense mean that it is over?

And again, do you think that all the American ppl will change district when they have lag? I can`t imagine all american ppl coming to Europe.
i really should stop bothering....... there has been alot of threads about the lag we had back then. it was commented by gail and some other(s) guy from anet because alot of people (including me) where pissed cuz we didnt hear from them until 2 weeks in, then they told us that they knew about the problem and was working on fixing it. took another week.
but it wasnt ur average crappy connection lag, it was major freezez that could last (atleast for me) up to 30 seconds. i had a couple of friends that wanted 2 change cuz of the favour and i think that for most people that freeze issue was the thing that finally made them change servers. i wont rant more about this ucz its pointless but i was just making a statement for 1 of the reasons I belive people changed servers. if u want more info on the "great" lag we had search and u will see how happy people where about it.

IceD'Bear

IceD'Bear

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Awoken Myth [MYTH]

Mo/

The EU lag was not anet's fault, but on some servers on the road from the US to the EU datacenters (somewhere in LA if I remember right).
And the same thing can happen again on your road to the US datacenters.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

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I've seen several area's / comments / from Anet basically saying there trying but I rember the pre-order packs of us compared to europe. Europe buy the package meant you got a cd-key (I wish I could get a europe pre-order item ) where we got a package, music, poster, mini guide, etc. Also rember about how a lot of people stumbled across the game in europe from posts and such.

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

No way.

a) American servers still have favor for pretty much the whole day
b) there are not too many people in most non major EU outposts, especially in non primetime hours, when I tend to play
c) most of my guildmates play on American servers, too (half of them ARE Americans)
d) in English districts you can hear pretty much any language except English

I am perfectly happy on US servers and I don't see ANY reason to come back.

Teufel Eldritch

Teufel Eldritch

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Shadar Logoth

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Nooooo! I've made some good friends with Euros. No no no! They can't go back! If they did I would never be able to FoW/UW with them!

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teufel Eldritch
Nooooo! I've made some good friends with Euros. No no no! They can't go back! If they did I would never be able to FoW/UW with them!
It's called "take a hike through the Shiverpeaks with them and atleast 3 other Americans"

BellyFlop

BellyFlop

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Not sure if its only coz the most of the Europeans are in the American Server or The Europeans are not playing this game.

I have 2 accounts one in American Server another in the European Server but for the last week or so i noticed less and less people in the European Servers.

And sometimes i check the American servers at European Peak times and the Americans still manage to have more people with more districts than Europe on its peak time, and if u notice the writing and have a quick chat in the American servers at that time u will notice most are Europeans.

Plus do your own tests go to games shops and ask for a nice Online Game but not FPS and most will say World of Warcraft.

Quote:
Not my fault A.nets marketing in Europe sucks and there not as many people playing it there
Total Agree with that comment, buy a pc magazine and see how many times u See WoW compare to Guild Wars same thing in the Shops u get 3 layers of WoW in the Shelfs and 1 small area with GW.

I think Even Diablo 2 Has more players online that GW

Teufel Eldritch

Teufel Eldritch

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Shadar Logoth

The Legendary Majestic 12

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
It's called "take a hike through the Shiverpeaks with them and atleast 3 other Americans"
That no longer works. At least it hasn't the last 3 times I have tried.

Lexar

Lexar

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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Europe is keeping the favor, so we really don't need those people to come back anymore. I got to buy my first fissure armor part today.

Gwenhywar

Gwenhywar

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Shameful Spirits [SsP]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BellyFlop
Plus do your own tests go to games shops and ask for a nice Online Game but not FPS and most will say World of Warcraft.
I think it's rather obvious (at least in the town where I live) that Warcraft is paying the game shops for advertising. There is always a huge WoW poster in front of the shop, and I've been there twice to buy a copy of GW, and each time the guy asked me if I also am interested in WoW ... reminded me of McDonalds, because it sounded like something they have to ask every customer, not just smalltalk with a rare occurrence in a games shop - a female interested in buying something ;p.

WoW is doing much better marketing than GW thus gets way more customers.

And I also have one account on american, and the other one on Euro right now - Euro servers are empty on the positive side, it allows me to meet many nice people, since they don't dissapear in the masses .

Lexar

Lexar

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Organised Spam

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You have to see it like Europe is taking their time to get a group ready, and all the impatiend and easily distracted people leave the group to go to the group where they talk in all caps, thus leaving all the determined people for the win!

I can already see trouble brewing though, so to all you Ex-EU server people who take this personally, it's just a funny jest, it doesn't mean anything. You can reply and say you're not impatient and everything, but I won't read it, save yourself the trouble for the sake of this topic.

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lexar
I can already see trouble brewing though, so to all you Ex-EU server people who take this personally, it's just a funny jest, it doesn't mean anything. You can reply and say you're not impatient and everything, but I won't read it, save yourself the trouble for the sake of this topic.
Actually I am happy to see that EU servers get more favor lately. No contintent deserves to get locked out from UW/FoW completely as EU did in the summer.
I play on US servers because it's more convenient for me and because 95% of my friends are there, that's all. The only things I ever took personally is the guys calling players like me a "traitor" for leaving EU servers. Because as you just said, GW is a funny jest which doesn't mean anything. There are Korean guys fighting on EU side, US guys fighting for Korea, and Europeans (like me) who turned their EU guild into an US guild. It's a game...

Have fun working on your Fissure armor - it feels good seeing your bank account filling up with Ecto!

burai

burai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Fishermen's Haven

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Catch 22 isn't it. Many Euros now on the American servers won't come back because Europe is now so quiet - because many Euros are now on the American servers

I would hope that Anet (being perfectly aware of this issue) will address it somehow. I'm not going to start any suggestions as to how - that's one for the Sanitarium.

'World at Flaw' - nicely put, and it pretty much says it all really. Though I do see Europe gaining favour much more often recently. WaW is still blah though.

Vyvyan Damone

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Europe

R.O.M

W/Mo

even i belong to guild which players are in AM_district. Not me thought. hardly see any sense in it but, i can? yup. since im not 24/7 GW fanboy.
Its really STUPID to play on AM servers if youre located in EURO. But i think youre just a peeps who enjoy McFucnalds/RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOCola too? Wave the flag of AM i dont really care, but if you have your roots in EURO, why play for AM?

(all my friends are in AM!)
(i love AMericans.)
(i think AM is way cooler than...)

ohlol

aron searle

aron searle

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

I will be changing over to the american server soon. (as soon as my new charachter can get to fow).

My only concern is any lag issues, but to be honest i cant see it being any worse, as lately ive noticed alot more rubber banding (in the last week).

Ill also be changing as some of the districts are just so bare. I did thirsty river last night and there was only 1, 3 quarters full district. As you can imagine it took a while to get a decent group. I remember having the same problem with the fire isles, if you didnt come on at peak time it was just bare.


I also think that having less accsess to fow lowers the "quality" (for want of a better word) of players you find there. For instance last week i went into fow, and it was the first time i got in for about a week and a bit. First of all i had to rush a group together before we lost favor (which we lost about 20 minutes into the game). And also as most of the team hadnt been there for a week like me, it makes it harder to be "good" (again for want of a better word), We were a good team and spent a good few hours in there. But i mean good in the sense of knowing the area and all the quests ect, the kind of "good" you get from having the accsess to practice in the area.

I hope that made sense.

If this was going to be fixed then i wouldnt be planning to move, but all we hear is "we are listing / make suggestions / we will do something"

Well to be honest ive lost count of the amount of suggestions people have made (including myself), and lost count of the amount of people that have complained about the WAW system, LESS TALK MORE ACTION.

The only thing that has stopped me moving straight away is my guild, but then some of them have already moved to US servers.

Gustav Gloomp

Gustav Gloomp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Sydney, Australia

they should make another server for us australians that are stuck in the american and european. cmon Anet PLEASEEEEEE make and australian or oceanian server PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE.

aron searle

aron searle

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

neoteo

Just out of interest, i take it you live in portugal.

Why are you posting on an english forum, i ask as are there not portugeese ones?

that would say something about how popular / available or how well marketed the game is there.

smatt

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

I've just switched back to Europe after playing on American servers for a few months. I have found that the general quality of random PUGs in Tombs is much higher in Europe than America, could be just my good luck though.

=HT=Ingram

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

lol Just like real life. everyone rushes to America for a place to live as the home of the free, and a place to get a good education, but then berates us once here for not respecting the culture they fled from. lol oh well...

sorry. Off topic.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram
lol Just like real life. everyone rushes to America for a place to live as the home of the free, and a place to get a good education, but then berates us once here for not respecting the culture they fled from. lol oh well...

sorry. Off topic.
British Higher Education > American Higher Education

Your statement is groundless

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

I thought the server setups was because of timezones...

So when the Koreans/Americans/Europeans are awake and in prime time, every other server is either: asleep or work/school (with the exception of people like me who dont have normal sleeping schedules...posting 6:40 am EST).

IceD'Bear

IceD'Bear

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Awoken Myth [MYTH]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by neoteo
i have 10 friends in portugal that want to buy the game , some even want the collectors edition , and they cant find one single copy of the game ..
They can buy it at the NCSoft online store.


Quote:
Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram
and a place to get a good education
Oh, really? :P

Sorry, even more OT.

Sister Rosette

Sister Rosette

Lady Fie

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sapporo

Tha Skulls [Ts]

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram
lol Just like real life. everyone rushes to America for a place to live as the home of the free, and a place to get a good education, but then berates us once here for not respecting the culture they fled from. lol oh well...

sorry. Off topic.
More like unwanted rant.

I'd take living in Europe over the US anyday.
Besides, American education is glorified babysitting.

burai

burai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Fishermen's Haven

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by neoteo
IMO the languages districs sucs ... europe could be interesting if all in one ditrict , separating is ridiculus and leaves most towns empty.
I agree with you neoteo, but what is the answer? The old way meant more populous districts, but IMO trying to extract conversations from the channels in a language you understood was horrible.

So do we suggest everyone has to speak the same language? If so, which one? Most Europeans are quite rightly proud of their own language, and I doubt they would easily accept being forced to speak another - even if they could, doesn't mean they would.

I vote for Welsh as the European national language

Hmmm, I better start learning my own language boyo isn't it

burai

burai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Fishermen's Haven

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram
lol Just like real life. everyone rushes to America for a place to live as the home of the free, and a place to get a good education, but then berates us once here for not respecting the culture they fled from. lol oh well...

sorry. Off topic.
Isn't Alaska that bit of mainland US they cut off from California in an attempt to get rid of it, only to find it floated north and got stuck to Canada?

By rights you should be a little island in the middle of the Pacific. No ... that's Hawaii

Only joking you lovely yanks

=HT=Ingram

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

Oh I agree... I would take an Oxnard Education over Ivy League or MIT any day... But I doubt I could afford it. lol Heck I have a bachelors degree in MIS now, and its practically worthless... the thing that gets me the most work is my Certifications... A+, Network+, MCP, and working toward MCSD. The College degree had very little to offer for the REAL world. but its still something everyone wants you to have... Just another piece of paper in my book. I take a cert tech over a degree tech every-time anymore. They know lots more REAL world scenarios instead of just Book knowledge.

LOL and yea. Alaska is that 3rd world country US owns. lol If it wasn't for the Oil, Coal, and Natural Gas we have... we would have been dumpped a long time ago. lol

for record I was thinking more Eastern Europe... I know I have seen great progess in the west there over the past 30 years. But I still Like my good old USA. lol I'm just wierd... lol

Snowman

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

I honestly cant blame people for wanting to goto American servers..

Even though I disagree about the language thing.. everyone I meet speaks english and if there is a foreign guy everynow and then.. so what, makes it interesting.

and even though everytime I have ever felt like ordering a bunch of newbies around in FoW or UW, Europe has had the favor nearly everytime.

and even though I could argue some nationlistic point about british citizens representing the americans (I guess you voted blair :P) I still wouldnt blame them, simply because of the amount of people on their servers!

its a big big problem to even find the right proffesions you want to organise a team.. in Team Arenas or Tombs or temple of ages..anywhere you go in fact... on american servers.. you enter a district and before you have had chance to say "lfg" you have several invites already.

And dont even get me started on looking for decent recruits in Europe.

Then there is the amount of traders.. so much easyer to buy and sell simply because there is more chance of someone actually wanting what you have to sell.

I just cant see a soloution .. even if every european in american servers came back.. I still dont think there wouldnt be enough same-language people to be anywhere near as populated as American servers.

I personaly think they should have done it so that you have european copies, american copies and korean copies.. and you cant swap at all, but you can still meet in international districts.

But its too late now. The only thing Europeans can do is construct the best guilds in the world and simply be the envy of everyone such that even americans want to come to our servers....

what are the chances?

BellyFlop

BellyFlop

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
neoteo Post

Not my fault A.nets marketing in Europe sucks and there not as many people playing it there

how can this be possible ?

i have 10 friends in portugal that want to buy the game , some even want the collectors edition , and they cant find one single copy of the game ..

Quote:
aron searle Asked

neoteo
Just out of interest, i take it you live in portugal.

Why are you posting on an english forum, i ask as are there not portugeese ones?

that would say something about how popular / available or how well marketed the game is there.
neoteo Location: Macau Old Portuguese colony now Chinese not really Portugal or near to it

Quote:
i ask as are there not portugeese and thats Portuguese
Not having a go, just wanted to clear it up, coz it was doing my head in.

and yes the best place to get it if they dont sell it in your country is https://store.plaync.com/home.php