I've been seeing a lot of complaints and so forth about how it is hard for new players to get into PvP.
Since we all know Anet or top name guilds don't really plan on educating the public, I thought I might as well TRY to help out.
I was thinking of making site, on my Chronicles of Garas webcomic (it will be subdomain) that will allow players to send in builds, explain how it works, WHY it works, the strengths, and flaws of said build. The site will be allow others to rate the build, post comments, and so forth.
Problem is, I need someone who can program and someone who can design it. I can only supply a server for it.
Any takers?
So...anyone good with web pages?
MarkyX
Axle_Fieshe
well i am great with makin sites (i designed/own www.vgaccess.com ) but i don't work free.
Hockster
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well i am great with makin sites (i designed/own www.vgaccess.com ) but i don't work free.
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Axle_Fieshe
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Originally Posted by Hockster
Wow! Another genric templated website. Good job.
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Hockster
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.....hmmm, lemme see a site you've made? just because somethin works (like the general layout of site) it doesn't give you the right to insult it. anyway, it's not like i've done any courses or anything....i just do this in my spare time since i still go to skool (i'm only 15....)
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Axle_Fieshe
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Just because you're only 15, and can use a template, doesn't give you the right to claim to be great at making websites. Or even charge for cookiecutter stuff.
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Arturo02
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I've been seeing a lot of complaints and so forth about how it is hard for new players to get into PvP.
Since we all know Anet or top name guilds don't really plan on educating the public, I thought I might as well TRY to help out. I was thinking of making site, on my Chronicles of Garas webcomic (it will be subdomain) that will allow players to send in builds, explain how it works, WHY it works, the strengths, and flaws of said build. The site will be allow others to rate the build, post comments, and so forth. Problem is, I need someone who can program and someone who can design it. I can only supply a server for it. Any takers? |
The bigger problem is guilds or players revealing successful builds. If they aren't doing it already on the many GW fan websites, why would they do on your site, no matter the format?
I don't mean to beat down your idea, but the last thing you want to do is give a potential opponent information they could use to beat you.
P.S. It's my belief that people get turned off to pvp early in their experience because they don't taste the success of winning often early on. They aren't building confidence from the actual experience, and not everyone knows how to keep the confidence despite losses. They don't see improvement as they go along as positive, they only see losses and think they are not improving.
Calnaion Blackhawk
i can make the graphics for a website as i have been graphic designing for a few years now, i can make the template in photoshop then seperate the slices, but i need someone to string it all together in HTML :?
also, your not legally allowed to sell your products at 15
also, your not legally allowed to sell your products at 15
freddo
I'm a web developper myself
Just one think : maybe it's time to stop thinking making a website (a good one, looking pro, well thinking and well done) is a simple thing, it has rules, codes, to-do and not-to-do think, new standarts (css, accessibility...)
anybody can do a web site in 30 minutes, but it will be somme crap
For example, I can make a wood table, but that's not my job, a my wood table will certainely be very ugly and not solid
By the way, I've got a lot of work these days, and I can't help you right now
In a couple of weeks, if you still need a hand, I will be there
Just one think : maybe it's time to stop thinking making a website (a good one, looking pro, well thinking and well done) is a simple thing, it has rules, codes, to-do and not-to-do think, new standarts (css, accessibility...)
anybody can do a web site in 30 minutes, but it will be somme crap
For example, I can make a wood table, but that's not my job, a my wood table will certainely be very ugly and not solid
By the way, I've got a lot of work these days, and I can't help you right now
In a couple of weeks, if you still need a hand, I will be there
Arathorn5000
Snowman
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Wow! Another genric templated website. Good job.
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Not to mention the nasty pop-up spam.. this is obviously a money making website litterd with adverts. :O
I think the author if this thread might be looking for someone passionate about guildwars and would do something simple and nice for free.. to help!.. and not for your profit making endevours.
Axle_Fieshe
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Not to mention the nasty pop-up spam.. this is obviously a money making website litterd with adverts. :O
I think the author if this thread might be looking for someone passionate about guildwars and would do something simple and nice for free.. to help!.. and not for your profit making endevours. |
Snowman
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well he could of said that. it's not like i started swearing at him saying he should pay me or anything. i ain't a charity worker, deal wit it. and btw, running a website costs money, the ads cover the cost.
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you've just seen an opportunity to make some money out of someone who might be non the wiser.
Im sure there is a forum rule against this kind of advertising.
MarkyX
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I was thinking of having a website that allows you to look at the archives, then choose a primary profession, which will list the available builds.
I do plan on submitting builds myself, and I do GvG. Not all builds I'll post will be strictly from me
Blu Vein
edited no use in causing trouble sry Mods
MarkyX
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well i am great with makin sites (i designed/own www.vgaccess.com ) but i don't work free.
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I'm paying for the server and this is a community project. Mind you, I'm using the bandwidth that is used for my webcomic (http://www.chroniclesofgaras.com).
So if you plan on being a dick, don't join up.
lg5000
I would show an interest, but I'm guessing you want something with php, and I'm no expert at that. What I do is design simple sites which load fast and are compatible with just about every browser and OS that I can get my hands on.
PM me if you wanna see an example.
btw. Blu Vein, your ip is leading us to a log in screen, I'm reasonably sure that's not where you wanted us.
PM me if you wanna see an example.
btw. Blu Vein, your ip is leading us to a log in screen, I'm reasonably sure that's not where you wanted us.
EternalTempest
What I did was get a web host that supports mysql and php and use one of the many out there free php portals. This is also modular so I can add modules to add stuff like calender or other things.
I use Asmallorange as my web host using the 40$ a year package - http://www.asmallorange.com and the portal software I use is Dragonfly http://www.cpgnuke.com -has forum, photo gallery, pm, etc. To see our guild site that I've setup http://www.gw-rotp.com. I did have to alter the theme to get it to match the colors.
You could also use some free forums - http://invisionfree.com/ or http://www.yy2.com/ or http://www.jconserv.net/ but you will get ads.
You could even do Asmallorange and do there autoscripts to install your own phpbb forums, mambo portal, huge list of free stuff out there.
In fact this site uses a paid php / mysql package called vBulletin with modifications done by web developers.
This is not a response to working for you, it's something I wanted to throw out. I do admit I "dabble" with web development but not a web developer as in program code. I can use the portal systems change code for patches and fudge with modules and server settings to get things to work.
It all depends on your level of tech and how far you want to go or just to pay money and farm it out.
I use Asmallorange as my web host using the 40$ a year package - http://www.asmallorange.com and the portal software I use is Dragonfly http://www.cpgnuke.com -has forum, photo gallery, pm, etc. To see our guild site that I've setup http://www.gw-rotp.com. I did have to alter the theme to get it to match the colors.
You could also use some free forums - http://invisionfree.com/ or http://www.yy2.com/ or http://www.jconserv.net/ but you will get ads.
You could even do Asmallorange and do there autoscripts to install your own phpbb forums, mambo portal, huge list of free stuff out there.
In fact this site uses a paid php / mysql package called vBulletin with modifications done by web developers.
This is not a response to working for you, it's something I wanted to throw out. I do admit I "dabble" with web development but not a web developer as in program code. I can use the portal systems change code for patches and fudge with modules and server settings to get things to work.
It all depends on your level of tech and how far you want to go or just to pay money and farm it out.
Blu Vein
edited no use in causing trouble sry Mods
romO
Pravus Phasmatis has long been one of the top tombs guilds on anet and now is shiftign focus to gvg and will soon be near the top of the ladder. we are completely willing to educate the public. of course we are not going to give away the specifics of our exact build, but we are willing to offer suggestions or modifications on builds, as well as explanations of what works when and where. check out the forums. new ones may be added depending on public interest.
Pravus Phasmatis
Pravus Phasmatis
Cymmina
There's already a site that's a build repository:
http://www.gwkb.org/cBuild.php
I don't claim that it's a good site or a well designed site or even a site with a good, intuitive interface (no offence to the owner: I offered advice on how to improve it, and he did a poor job at it). It just exists.
I'm working on my own version that doesn't suck... but working full time seriously cuts down on the time I have to spend on it. I have it at about 25% complete, but if you're interested drop me a pm/email and I can set you up an account manually (account management/registration barely exists).
http://www.gwkb.org/cBuild.php
I don't claim that it's a good site or a well designed site or even a site with a good, intuitive interface (no offence to the owner: I offered advice on how to improve it, and he did a poor job at it). It just exists.
I'm working on my own version that doesn't suck... but working full time seriously cuts down on the time I have to spend on it. I have it at about 25% complete, but if you're interested drop me a pm/email and I can set you up an account manually (account management/registration barely exists).
Axle_Fieshe
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Nothing infuriates me more than people claiming to be good at IT work and are not. Just because you can figure out how to modify code and insert your own images doesn’t mean that you are a Web Developer nor that you should claim to be. People like you are the type that make companies think that they can get a professional web application website for $500.
Don’t claim to be great at something if you aren’t. And to counter your “where is your site”. My company site is www.structured-systems.net and a flashy example of my work can be found at http://71.0.254.158/ username:dev_viewer password:view Alas, the company didn't pay their bill and had to be shutdown. |
and what else am i gonna say "i suck at web design but still pay me" ???? i know i don't suck.
and btw, ur site is nothing to be proud of. it's pretty much just made up on inner shadows, bevels, and gradients on their default settings. not to mention it doesn't seem to work properly in Firefox.
Blu Vein
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Saridley Kronah
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You obviously have no clue, not to mention ever bit of code outside and inside is mine. And all sites work fine in all browsers you must just have over restricted setting.
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EDIT: SH1t! even my designs arent that bad man... Ever considered eatin sionide?
Axle_Fieshe
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You obviously have no clue, not to mention ever bit of code outside and inside is mine. And all sites work fine in all browsers you must just have over restricted setting.
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Are you stoned? You cant be serious.
MarkyX
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There's already a site that's a build repository:
http://www.gwkb.org/cBuild.php |
Okay, it seems whoever owns this site hasn't been advertising enough. Because I never seen it or heard of it before, but this is the type of stuff I was looking for.
Mercury Angel
Purchasing a $500 website as a student on a garbageman's budget at the age of 15? o_O
And Axle mentioned being 15 earlier in the thread...
The accounts were created within 4 days of each other, and only one is particularly descriptive.
Whether you're genuinely different people, or merely alternate accounts, I don't care. Flaming is flaming, and has no place on these forums. If you have a personal beef with someone else, take it to PM's.
And of course, this applies to all involved parties, but prior to a recent post, I didn't hear of anyone wishing death upon another person.
And Axle mentioned being 15 earlier in the thread...
The accounts were created within 4 days of each other, and only one is particularly descriptive.
Whether you're genuinely different people, or merely alternate accounts, I don't care. Flaming is flaming, and has no place on these forums. If you have a personal beef with someone else, take it to PM's.
And of course, this applies to all involved parties, but prior to a recent post, I didn't hear of anyone wishing death upon another person.
AeroLion
Really? Top guilds don't educate the public? That's news to me.
MarkyX
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Really? Top guilds don't educate the public? That's news to me.
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I've been there, got rather sick of it.
AeroLion
OK. How does that apply to educating the public? Because I've seen iQ, Te, KF, IVEX, sB in their heyday, all try to inform new players as best as possible. Telling them what strategies work best in GVG/Tombs, what skills are worthless in PVP, how counters work, the best spike damage over all classes, when to kite and when not, etc.
I've also seen the community that is supposed to soak up this knowledge rebel and try to argue half-assed "facts" with these top guilds.
The fact of the matter is the top guilds will speak if we could listen.
I've also seen the community that is supposed to soak up this knowledge rebel and try to argue half-assed "facts" with these top guilds.
The fact of the matter is the top guilds will speak if we could listen.
MarkyX
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And I'm not talking about some isolated forums that no one goes to like Guild-hall.net
AeroLion
No one goes to Guild Hall? Are you retarded? GH is first in the list of fansites and is also listed as elite. That means new players are going to visit them first above all other fansites. Then they're going to go to Guru or GWOnline. A lot of top guilds still go to GH and continue to post information.
There were plenty of people that would come to Guru that would give advice. iQ especially but you can find other top guilds that came here and also offered valuable knowledge.
No one listens anymore and that's where the absence of information comes in.
There were plenty of people that would come to Guru that would give advice. iQ especially but you can find other top guilds that came here and also offered valuable knowledge.
No one listens anymore and that's where the absence of information comes in.
MarkyX
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No one goes to Guild Hall? Are you retarded? GH is first in the list of fansites and is also listed as elite. That means new players are going to visit them first above all other fansites. Then they're going to go to Guru or GWOnline. A lot of top guilds still go to GH and continue to post information.
There were plenty of people that would come to Guru that would give advice. iQ especially but you can find other top guilds that came here and also offered valuable knowledge. No one listens anymore and that's where the absence of information comes in. |
When I first got into GW, I didn't go to some fansite for info. People don't usually go to fansites for games unless they want to read opinions or the ongoings in the game. Otherwise, they wouldn't buy the game and go "hey, the first thing I'm going to do is check out some third party forum and see these builds."
It's kind of like the strategy builds in Diablo 2. Sure, you can tell me what to do step-by-step, but I won't understand the how or why it works.
besides, from what I'm looking at, the top guilds just complain, complain, and complain. I have yet to gather any decent information from them. They talk high and mighty like they were some amazing driving force behind the community. Did they start their own sites? Articles? Maybe instead of telling off Gaile Grey and some shit on how she should be fired, these top guilds should try WORKING with her. All I see from the so-called major players of GW is mudslinging.
If I had any serious clout, I would write articles for the official guild wars site instructing newcomers to the game about the PvP mechanics, like the common strategies in tombs, the structure of a GvG team, and how to make a sick arena build.
It would be a lot more useful then crybaby whining. No, I'm not defending Gaile Grey, but yelling "She should be FIRED!!!elevenone1" isn't going to help anyone, especially GW or Anet.
Arturo02
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also, your not legally allowed to sell your products at 15
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So a minor can enter into a contract, but the other party has no recourse if the minor renegs on the deal.
I might be a little off on some of the details, I'm going back a good sixteen years to business laws classes in college. But I'm pretty sure the above is correct.
But this is all semantics really. We are arguing minor points, no pun intended.
lg5000
Would it not depend on what country you're in? As far as I konw, you can legally work at 15 or even 14 in some countries. (hehe, you can get your liscence and a car with 15 in NZ, so why not work as well?) But.. I haven't bothered to check where the poster is from.
Axle_Fieshe
well i can legally work here (in Australia), so I don't see the problem.
Axle_Fieshe
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Not. Going. To. Happen.
I'm paying for the server and this is a community project. Mind you, I'm using the bandwidth that is used for my webcomic (http://www.chroniclesofgaras.com). So if you plan on being a dick, don't join up. |
Arturo02
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No one goes to Guild Hall? Are you retarded? GH is first in the list of fansites and is also listed as elite. That means new players are going to visit them first above all other fansites. Then they're going to go to Guru or GWOnline. A lot of top guilds still go to GH and continue to post information.
There were plenty of people that would come to Guru that would give advice. iQ especially but you can find other top guilds that came here and also offered valuable knowledge. No one listens anymore and that's where the absence of information comes in. |
If there are some, I don't understand why they do it. Not a good strategy imo.
Arturo02
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Would it not depend on what country you're in? As far as I konw, you can legally work at 15 or even 14 in some countries. (hehe, you can get your liscence and a car with 15 in NZ, so why not work as well?) But.. I haven't bothered to check where the poster is from.
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MarkyX
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Could you point out the top guilds posting their gvg build information on GH?
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Guilds who refuse to post their builds are pussies.