Ranger Blues

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Jakerius
Jakerius
Lion's Arch Merchant
#1
Being a ranger...
I think the ratio of Ranger:Warrior is about 1:5.
Then the ratio of Ranger:Elementalist is 1:10

Point is, hardly anybody likes Rangers.
The other night I was trying to get a group for Thirsty River with my 18 R/Mo. One group lets me join, then 30 seconds later boots me.
This happens 4 more times, until I find a group that accepts me. So we're carving through the first bit of Thirsty River, and we get to the first enemy team.
I'm shouting to focus on one target at a time and then kill the priest, but nobody's listening to me, just killing whoever they want, because nobody wants to listen to the "stopid" [sic] Ranger. What does she know?
So we get mowed down a little after the 2 minute mark when the enemy team got rez'd on top of us.

Just great. The only team I found in 30 minutes is a bunch of retards. We did this 3 times, each time I'm frantically telling them to kill the priest or the enemies will get rez'd, each time to be left dumbstruck by how thick some people can be.

Any other Rangers ever felt the same?
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zalzan
Pre-Searing Cadet
#2
rangers rule. I have six characters, one of each class, and my ranger is my favorite followed by mesmer/ele. Join a guild that supports rangers. My guild goes farming in UW with nothing but rangers. I suggest you hang at temple of ages and look for underworld ranger groups, and perhaps you can find a ranger-friendly guild in there, one that will also help you with other missions and quests.
Loch
Loch
Krytan Explorer
#3
It's not cuz you're a ranger; it's because you're doing Ascension missions. Any idiot who played long enough to get to the desert is now trying to beat missions that take an ounce of skill.

My advice? Consider henchmen groups until you hit Dragon's Lair. Sure it can be boring, but it saved me from loads of frustration. It sounds like you have some commanding skills, so henchmen WILL work for you.

Also, anyone who thinks the following is a complete moron and should be avoided:

-Rangers have no use
-Mesmers don't do anything good
-Necros without wells are garbage
-Henchmen monks never work
C
Chad
Academy Page
#4
Someone's signature on another popular Guild Wars says it perfectly:

Easy: Do the mission with your guild.
Normal: Do the mission with henchmen.
Hard: Do the mission with a pick-up group.

Jakerius
Jakerius
Lion's Arch Merchant
#5
Thanks Loch, I might try that.
I actually got so tired of people screwing me over I started on PvP... I like it.
Aracos79
Aracos79
Krytan Explorer
#6
Sometimes the whole middle portion of the game can get to be a real pain, not only for rangers... but mesmers and necros too. Since the group size is 6, most of the idiot PUGers out there think that automatically means "2 00ber tanks, 2 n00kers, and 2 super monkz". All others need not apply. :P
mortalis doleo
mortalis doleo
Wilds Pathfinder
#7
the reason you might have been kicked doesnt have to be because you are a ranger. it could be because you were lvl 18 (unless they specified the reason for kicking).
One and Two
One and Two
Jungle Guide
#8
at thirsty river being level 18 sucks ass for rangers. My monk? Level 10 and accepted with pleasure at thirsty. People are f*cking morons.
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heist23
Journeyman
#9
i hate it how ignorant people can be. every now and then when i'm low on gold, i tend to head over to the War Camp and say "R/Mo LFG for farming the furnace". what a surprise, no replies. it's like this in every outpost or mission i went to.

*sigh noise* God help this fanbase.
RyuuTenshi
RyuuTenshi
Ascalonian Squire
#10
I think it's because there are many rangers who just don't know how to play as a ranger. I played with a trapper ranger today at Thirsty River and she was just plain annoying! Never really used many traps and kept begging for gold to buy Flame Trap. If I haven't watched my friend run circles around me and mobs as a ranger, I'd think that rangers were next to useless too. * Ducks to avoid flames from trapper rangers and other ranger loving players *
Align
Align
Krytan Explorer
#11
According to a "poll" on the forums not too long ago, the majority of the forum-going players like rangers most of all. It's just too bad we don't play in the same place :/
Pevil Lihatuh
Pevil Lihatuh
Jungle Guide
#12
I've played a ranger since release. Depends where you are. Generally it seems that if there aren't 'enough' monks for the teams liking, then its the ranger that will get kicked for another monk. That or the mesmer.

However I was helping a friend through ascension missions last night. In 2 of the 3 missions, i was the only one left alive at points (with a W/N, N/Mo, E/Mo and 2 henchies). Rangers are the 'best' in that they're adaptable, but people think adaptable means rubbish at everything. Nonsense. Means we can hang in there that bit longer

Just keep trying. Problem with ascension is everyone just wants to get through it. Took me days to do Thirsty River when I ascended, because I kept getting bad groups. Last night did it 2nd go (and only coz the stupid hero died at the last group first time lol).

So just keep on trying, or if you really feel desperate, take some henchies and try it
A
Amand
Academy Page
#13
I highly doubt the "Ranger to X ratio" to be that high. My observation tells me rangers being a QUITE popular class. Now the thing or problem is that most rangers are really bad. You find the "Pets are so cute" with "charm animal" being their only beastmastery skill, the "Look I am an Elf" [random LOTR-ripoff nickname)/Legolas/Aragorn-wannabes who "spam" PBS into a mob and use troll unguent whenever it refreshes.

The Ranger class is one of the best in the game but hard to master and use effectively. Good thing that the broken interrupt-spamming has been fixed forcing you to time your shots instead of hoping they match with the target's activated skill in time.
Tactical-Dillusions
Tactical-Dillusions
Desert Nomad
#14
I just got totally ignored by around 5 or 6 groups in Hells precipice. Totally bored with standing and spamming, i got my monk instead.
Within seconds i received invitations.

I asked why i should join their groups when they didn't want my ranger. I got no reply.

It's an anti-ranger conspiracy i tell you.

"Forming group, need monks, tanks and nukers. Invite self!"
Ollj
Ollj
Jungle Guide
#15
do your spirit spam, iway, interrupt damage instant killing and trap conditioning
but STOP WHINING!!!
S
Saba The Hobo
Academy Page
#16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollj
do your spirit spam, iway, interrupt damage instant killing and trap conditioning
but STOP WHINING!!!
That sounds a bit like a whine to me...

And yeah, it's not only rangers that get skipped over :P. Join the Mesmer/Necro crowd .
F
Former Ruling
Grotto Attendant
#17
You have to promote yourself more as a ranger/mes/necro. Because they dont fit into the trio (Monk, Warrior, Elementalist).

That or find an all ranger group (those are popular the latter part of the game I hear).
sino-soviet
sino-soviet
Wilds Pathfinder
#18
My ranger can deal 30-40 dmg to a group of enemies consistently and quickly, outdamging a lot of eles. But people dont seem to care. People are simply convinced thast the game was meant to be played with the typical healer/tank/combo.
Mimi Miyagi
Mimi Miyagi
Wilds Pathfinder
#19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions
I just got totally ignored by around 5 or 6 groups in Hells precipice. Totally bored with standing and spamming, i got my monk instead.
Within seconds i received invitations.

I asked why i should join their groups when they didn't want my ranger. I got no reply.

It's an anti-ranger conspiracy i tell you.

"Forming group, need monks, tanks and nukers. Invite self!"
Of all the missions in the entire PVE world - Rangers are only really truly needed at Hell's Precipice. Winter is vital, as well as pulling titans one at a time. Any PUG that doesn't take a ranger for that mission are morons and you would've died anyway.

I'm not bashing Rangers, I'm just stating the fact that of all the places in the game, that's the ONE place where you can't go without them.
F
Former Ruling
Grotto Attendant
#20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimi Miyagi
Of all the missions in the entire PVE world - Rangers are only really truly needed at Hell's Precipice. Winter is vital, as well as pulling titans one at a time. Any PUG that doesn't take a ranger for that mission are morons and you would've died anyway.

I'm not bashing Rangers, I'm just stating the fact that of all the places in the game, that's the ONE place where you can't go without them.
Maybe true - But as a counter - ALOT of the missions I have done without a Nuker. Theres also missions where we have not taken along Monks..And missions where we just used monks and rangers - therefore no warrior tanks.

The game does stay fairly balanced.

(I have also read from other sources that all the later missions in the game are easily done with ranger groups - maybe taking 1 monk for backup).