Level 6 ELEMENTALIST vs MIRROR expert help.

navy blue chuckz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Long Beach, CA

Am Fah

N/

I've searched these forums fruitlessly for a thread that gives help for ELEMENTALISTS for beating doppleganger. With my past several characters I actually leveled up normally and needless to say the tried-and-true tactics for beating him are really effective-- at level 20, and alas when I decide I want to rush a new character through the game, I have problems.

I found some threads for mesmers and necros but not elementalists. *pulls hair out* Please don't tell me to 'level up like everyone else.'

Any help is GREATLY appreciated.

Sister Rosette

Sister Rosette

Lady Fie

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sapporo

Tha Skulls [Ts]

D/W

Depends on what your secondary is.

But for a primary take all the fire AoE's you can get, wait until it
it casts one, and then move out of it and cast yours.

Repeat until ascention

romO

romO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Chicago

Idiot Savants [iQ]

Mo/

well if you are able to change secondary to necro, you can bring all sacrifice skills and run up to him so he uses sword and then he will do little damage and kill himself.

navy blue chuckz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Long Beach, CA

Am Fah

N/

oh sorry... my secondary profession is monk. ^^

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Bring a lot of reserection spells like restore life and some AoEs.

Jenosavel

Jenosavel

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Jul 2005

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Iron Mist is a nice skill to bring too. Just remember not to cast it yourself.

October Jade

October Jade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

drifting between Indiana and NorCal

I'm not sure if this has been patched recently, but there used to be a great way to beat the doppelganger with monk skills. Load up your skillbar with four of those useless enchantments that give -1 regen. The doppleganger will cast all of them to start the battle and be rendered almost useless thereafter. Then it's just a matter of smiting him to death while healing his axe/bow damage.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

I watched a vid of a fire ele beating the dopple in 2 skills (about a 13 sec fight).

His skill bar was full, having 2-3 long cast time and/or low dmg fire magics in the first half of the bar (so the dopple would cast some junk on him first, nothing that can stop him).

Rest of his bar was Firestorm, Metoer Shower, and healing spells just in case.

Fight starts, he presses tab to target and gets meteor shower casting. While he is casting that he gets hit with some spell, then he casts firestorm real quick, and moves to the side.

The doppleganger just sit their getting owned by Firestorm and Metoer Shower dmg and couldnt move cause of the knockdown by shower. He was dead in like 3 seconds after that (literally 70% of the fight time was casting meteor shower).

Rico Carridan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Eternal Comrades

E/Mo

Here's how I did it with a pure fire ele...

Skillbar - meteor shower, fire storm, gale, glyph of concentration, (you might want something like searing heat to increase the damage) four other random skills.

At the start of battle, throw on glyph of concentration and hit him with meteor shower. Then cast firestorm. If he gets up, knock him back down with gale. Add in searing heat and you should be done.

Rico

Jaia Shadowless

Jaia Shadowless

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Salt Lake City

Guild of the Burninators

E/Mo

Make sure you can get your main spells off before the mirror does. You might wanna bring along a couple enchantments in your skillbar (aura of restoration, attunements, etc) so that the mirror is busy casting those while you get Meteor Shower and Firestorm off.

When I did it, she didn't even make an effort to get out of the AoE stuff, & got knocked down enough times that it wouldn't have mattered if she'd tried.

EAT U ALIVE

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

LBS running academy

W/Mo

You probably won't even be level 20 when u kill ur dopple... you'll be like level 18-19 maybe.

NeoDias

NeoDias

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

NewYork

i have no idea about that

Hugh Snyder

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The Vault

Urban Knights

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by EAT U ALIVE
You probably won't even be level 20 when u kill ur dopple... you'll be like level 18-19 maybe.
he said he was level 6..

navy blue chuckz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Long Beach, CA

Am Fah

N/

On one of my other characters, I went straight to level 18 immediately after beating him-- I was level 13. So I don't know nor am I worrying about how much I'll level, from level 6. ;p

As far as these strategies go, I can't say I haven't been trying them.

I take insane damage from his arrows alone, and I'm still working on my timing with the spells because even if I get off Meteor Shower and Firestorm before him, soon as he gets up he hits me with 2 or 3 arrows and I'm done.

And no, it's not the weakness of my armor-- I have desert collectors' set.

*sighhh*

Jenosavel

Jenosavel

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Jul 2005

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by navy blue chuckz
I take insane damage from his arrows alone
Obviously you either didn't try out Iron Mist like I suggested, or at your lvl you don't have the points to make Iron Mist last long enough. Damage immunity FTW.

navy blue chuckz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Long Beach, CA

Am Fah

N/

I tried it but gave up on it, because he NEVER casts it. >/

This is also the case with the monk life attunement+heal breeze trick, where you're supposed to let HIM cast LA, while you out-wand him.

I don't know if it's the patch or what... but he's not casting this stuff. >.>

NightOwl

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Bring monk skills, forget the ele stuff. Pacifism, amity, etc etc. Silly stuff that doesn't matter if he casts on you. Then bring a couple of smite skills, and use the smite,ignore the rest.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Just level up normally like you're supposed to do, the dopple wasn't meant to be exploited at level 6 anyway, what did you do leech off of other groups to get you there? They should put a level limit for ascension to at least lvl 15 I think.

makii

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

its so fu easy u fu idiot. call
1. meteor shower
2. meteor
3. fire rain (should be dead now)
if not, go near and use your phoenix should be 100% dead now

Cranky

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Mo

prot spirit if nescisary

nicky nightmare

nicky nightmare

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

between a rock and a hard place......

Miendrak'el Myrth (MeM

http://steelwind-knights.org/v-web/b...pic.php?t=1681

this may help its from my guilds website..... a thread i started i might add....

momo2oo2

momo2oo2

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Zaragoza, Spain

[ODL]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoDias
i have no idea about that
This guy is probably a bot. Take a look at his posts. All of them are:

"i have no idea"
"
i like guildwar very much"
"
i don't like this game so much"
"i want to know that as well"

etc.

By the thread, fire AoE should do good. As someone noted, phoenix, flame burst are also welcomed

navy blue chuckz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Long Beach, CA

Am Fah

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by makii
its so fu easy u fu idiot. call
1. meteor shower
2. meteor
3. fire rain (should be dead now)
if not, go near and use your phoenix should be 100% dead now
did you ever consider the fact that at LEVEL 6, meteor shower+meteor+fire rain(whatever that is. >.>) altogether, and in fact, even double-casted IS NOT ENOUGH DAMAGE to kill your mirror, with such limited attribute points?

think before you post.

anyways, thanks to everyone for all the insight. i tried it all, and ultimately what i used to kill the post-patch doppleganger with my level 6 e/mo, was a COMBINATION of everything you guys said.

This is the skill bar that ultimately won it for me:

========

Life Attunement (vain attempt to make him waste time-- he never used it)
Glyph Of Lesser Energy
Fire Storm (hm... couldn't find Fire Rain. *roll eyes*)
Meteor Shower
Balthazar's Aura
Symbol Of Wrath
Banish
Bane Signet

========

This build would be OVER-KILL, at level 20, but needless to say I had to resort to it, as I simply wasn't getting off enough damage with 6 points in Fire, and 5 points in Smiting. I just casted Glyph before the battle, hit Fire Storm right off the bat, while he happened to be casting Meteor Shower. In that seemingly split-second window thereafter, I casted Banish and Bane Signet (because it'd never be enough damage, only casted once) and then finally Meteor Shower. Ran to him, casted Balthazar's Aura and Symbol Of Wrath while he was getting knocked down, and finished with Banish and Bane Signet.

What was heart-wrenching was that very last Bane Signet. See, before that my Meteor Shower had already ended, naturally, so he was pounding 50-100 damage at me at a time with his axe (I only had roughly 275hp at level 6). By the time I got off the last Bane Signet (2 second cast), I was at like 1hp from his last blow-- and I'm not over-exaggerating. Thankfully, my Bane Signet was just enough to finally get him down.

Anyways, thanks again everyone.

PS. Forgot who asked, but I'm not just some leech-rusher. This is my fifth character, and as some of you would agree, one tends to get lazy at this point in the game. ^^ I used Lady Blue Steel's Running Academy for my past 2 characters for a run from Lion's Arch all the way through the 3 Ascension missions. I highly recommended it for you more experienced (and might I add rich-- I'm an ex-invincimonk afterall, and LBSRA requires 75k for this service ;p), yet equally lazy individuals, like myself.

/killthread

Wilheim Eversmann

Wilheim Eversmann

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

simple enough..i killed mine for only flare as my attack skill, and all set to useless glyph, mist form blah blah....

Storm Crow

Storm Crow

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

With Vanatiel by the Lion's Arch Lighthouse, waiting for the storm with which we are accoustomed

Children of the Order [CoO] -True Heroes Fight to Keep the Balance-

I used the following

1st skill slot: Fire Storm
2nd skill slot: Meteor Shower

you MUST put them in this order, if you dont, the doppleganger will use meteor shower first.

so, as soon as you get into the arena, hit meteor shower, then dodge whatever it throws down (fire storm most likely) and set fire storm. Then sit back and watch the fireworks explode and the extra 50,000xp float from your head. *I beat mine in 13 seconds*