i meet this person inside the game , that told me this ..
" Everyone in my guild as 2 acounts .. so 2 guilds with same people ...
its so easy to cheat GvG ... lol "
mmmm ... A net , what do you have to say about this ?
Guild RAnk what a SKAM
neoteo
aron searle
well i cant be arsed to check the essay that is the Eula, but this probably breaks it.
In which case Anet will "hopefully" catch them at some point and delete all their accounts.
That would be funny.
In which case Anet will "hopefully" catch them at some point and delete all their accounts.
That would be funny.
-Loki-
Well, you cannot do arranged ranked matches anymore, so you could hardly cheat to get a better guild rank by arranging matches with a guild your other acounts are joined to to farm guild rank. It does, however, mean someone could be in 2 of the top 10 guilds for the World Championship.
aron searle
ooohhh
you spoiled my fun
you spoiled my fun
Sekkira
afaik, they're called smurfs. Most of the people I know that use this are just faction farming anyway. Why waste time on getting two guilds high on the ladder?
Hanuman li Tosh
how is that cheating or aginst the elua exactly? you get no benefit from it whatsoever.
Sekkira
It is against the rules though because that spot on the ladder could have been for someone else deserving instead of a single guild having 2+ places in the ladder.
Hanuman li Tosh
please direct me to the rule that says you may only access one account. it wasnt in my elua or tos.
Sekkira
I don't recall saying anything about having two accounts being against the eula tos or rules.
Tactical-Dillusions
I have two accounts and i ran my second characters through the Ascalon missions myself....OMGLOL ban me! 
I think smurfing got a mention in one of the interviews though.
I think smurfing got a mention in one of the interviews though.
asdar
Hopping guilds might be unfair, if it was the same account I guess.
I don't count it as a big enough deal to worry about. It ruins any faction gain if you hop guilds so really just the championship is affected and then not overly.
We have two guilds but our 2nd guild has never played a ranked match. We just split up to test tactics. I don't think anything is wrong with that. I wish they'd let you do it with all the maps without having to have separate accounts for each guild hall.
I don't count it as a big enough deal to worry about. It ruins any faction gain if you hop guilds so really just the championship is affected and then not overly.
We have two guilds but our 2nd guild has never played a ranked match. We just split up to test tactics. I don't think anything is wrong with that. I wish they'd let you do it with all the maps without having to have separate accounts for each guild hall.
Warskull
There was a limit to how many times you can ranked play a guild. They also removed the ability to ranked challenge to prevent this. He is obviously some PvE player who has never GvGed before.
NightOwl
I like smurfed guilds. They generally have nice rank, and buckle under pressure when fighting someone decent. Easy wins.
Warskull
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I like smurfed guilds. They generally have nice rank, and buckle under pressure when fighting someone decent. Easy wins.
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-Trying out a new build and not wanting to hurt rating
-Trying out new players or training new members
-Bored of waiting for a worthy opponent
So actual smurf guilds are going to be quite hard to defeat.
Kazahana
smurfing can also still be used to tank your opponants rating if your smurfs at say rank 1500 and your real guilds at say 100 and you fight one of your competitors thats say 150 they will lose more rating to your smurf than to your main if you beat them and if they win they will gain less than they would if they were fighting your main
so you could if you were good get your rank up to round 1k then fight opponants that are close to your main guild and if you win you can drop them by 100 or more ranks then tank your rank again and continue the process thereby preventing people from catching up to your main guilds rank
its kinda cheap
so you could if you were good get your rank up to round 1k then fight opponants that are close to your main guild and if you win you can drop them by 100 or more ranks then tank your rank again and continue the process thereby preventing people from catching up to your main guilds rank
its kinda cheap
romO
in the last season (before the recent reset), EP and Jet Li (rank 1 and 2) were the same guild.
One and Two
They usually hop guilds, not have 2 accounts. 2 accounts was back when you could do a rated challenge.
The reason that you have less faction for like 2 weeks when you join a guild is cus of guild hopping -> smurf guilds.
Oh yeah, most of the top guild people don't give a crap about faction, anet.
Finally, whoever said that smurf guilds are easy wins...is an idiot. I'd like to see you play Union Team =P
The reason that you have less faction for like 2 weeks when you join a guild is cus of guild hopping -> smurf guilds.
Oh yeah, most of the top guild people don't give a crap about faction, anet.
Finally, whoever said that smurf guilds are easy wins...is an idiot. I'd like to see you play Union Team =P
Silent Wandarer
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Originally Posted by neoteo
i meet this person inside the game , that told me this ..
" Everyone in my guild as 2 acounts .. so 2 guilds with same people ... its so easy to cheat GvG ... lol " mmmm ... A net , what do you have to say about this ? |
nostra
Smurf guilds really hurt.
Example:
- Guild A is rank 10
- Guild B is rank 5
- Guild C is Guild B's new smurf guild, ranked 100
If Guild A meets Guild B, Guild A is "expected" to loose (and will loose little rank when it does) and, if it wins, the rank gain will be good.
If, however, Guild A meets Guild C, it's the other way around: "expected" to win, so gaining little rank for it, and if it looses, looses much rank.
Because guys from Guild B are actually playing Guild C, Guild A will likely loose and have its rank badly damaged. If they win (which is hard), they win little rank.
Example:
- Guild A is rank 10
- Guild B is rank 5
- Guild C is Guild B's new smurf guild, ranked 100
If Guild A meets Guild B, Guild A is "expected" to loose (and will loose little rank when it does) and, if it wins, the rank gain will be good.
If, however, Guild A meets Guild C, it's the other way around: "expected" to win, so gaining little rank for it, and if it looses, looses much rank.
Because guys from Guild B are actually playing Guild C, Guild A will likely loose and have its rank badly damaged. If they win (which is hard), they win little rank.
Kassad
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nah 1 gvg a day won'y rly make ur guild high rank cuz u wnt get good rating from it anyhow
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KvanCetre
I call for a ban on anyone who doesn't follow the "no abusing the English language" rule. This is not an AOL Chatroom.
Sekkira
I second that motion.
Calnaion Blackhawk
no actually, you can only arrange unrated battles, which do not count towards your rank, so therefore its impossible(near it) to contantly play your second guild and gain rank ;D
dansamy
A little off-topic, but is anyone else tired of 400 different guilds using mB for their tag?
On topic, I have a 2nd account. It is technically the "leader" for a "smurf" for KnV. What do we do with it? Use it to do unrated scrimmage practice. Let's say we have build "A" and build "B" and we want to try both of them out. Fine. Split up into 2 groups and do an unrated. Right now, we are trying to teach some members how to do things like run flag, etc. This allows us to train them without disruption. We can all also be on the same Vent/TS to discuss what each side is doing and ways to counter it effectively.
On topic, I have a 2nd account. It is technically the "leader" for a "smurf" for KnV. What do we do with it? Use it to do unrated scrimmage practice. Let's say we have build "A" and build "B" and we want to try both of them out. Fine. Split up into 2 groups and do an unrated. Right now, we are trying to teach some members how to do things like run flag, etc. This allows us to train them without disruption. We can all also be on the same Vent/TS to discuss what each side is doing and ways to counter it effectively.