ArenaNet want $$$, I want char slots and storage!

4 characters and a 16-slot cross-character storage? Skimpy stuff.

ArenaNet, I know you want my cash. And believe it or not, I am more than willing to give it to you. I bought the CE for the sole purpose of blowing more cash on this game, in the hopes that some of it found its way to you.

However, there is one small thing I would like in return. More space. Those 4 character slots and that chest of storage... well, it just isn't a lot of space, is it? And no, I won't just buy another account. that would just be another 4 useless char slots with no skills on them and no way to transfer goods from one char to another.

Can't you give me some more ways to pay you some more cash? Did you hear that??? ArenaNet, you have a customer asking for ways TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON YOU. Wow! Just mention that idea for your CEO and I'm sure he'll be whipping all the dev crew to get this stuff implemented within a week! And you'll get a bonus, you lucky guy that picked up this post and told him about it!

After all, GW is a great game, and it's also dirt cheap. Too cheap. I got an overflowing MMO budget here, and I don't know what to do with it. Help me out, will ya? All the other games are boring grinds, and instead of paying $15 a month, you should give me a good reason to pay you some more cash instead.

Just off the top of my head:
Additional characters: $10 per slot.
Additional storage space: $10 per 4 slots.
A fancy-schmancy interface to punch my CC number in: priceless.

It's nothing that will make me more powerful, nor give me any advantage in the game whatsoever. I'll just have to worry less, never vendor any items I might use, and I can finally give you some more money.

Great Game, now just let me blow some more cash and not worry about running out of storange or not being able to make that other PvP char without deleting a PvE thing in the middle of a campaign.


Thanks :)


(Of course, if I am horribly mistaken, and I can buy another account and merge everything into a 8-char, 40-item storage heaven, tell me about it, I'll type my cc card number into the first text box I find!)

/signed....
so long as the price is one time, and its not renting the space/character slots permonth, thats ok for the hardcore players, but blows for those of us that cant play all day...
(and make sure you can go into a gameshop and buy them as little scratchcards, cause i dont have a creditcard, and cant get one)

Enter credit card number here: - - - :

Don't buy another account and merge. You'll lose 50 bucks.

/signed as long as they offer variety of options. Also that means they can use this money to expand GW even more. HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!!!

/signed for the moment

But I think they will add more slots in chapter 2... especially because there will be new classes.

Well, say we get 3 new classes and only 2 new slots, I'll have just the same problem I'm having now.

Or at least we should be able to merge account so we could share skills across them. I could easily buy another account, but there is no way I can spare the time needed to unlock the skills in that account.

I'm just surprised ArenaNet haven't made something like this already. Should be very easy money for them, and so much less work than an expansion pack.

/signed, but i have 8 characters now, thanks

Thread necromancy!

Well, this was the earliest thread on the topic I could find

Yes. There is Chapter2 coming with potentially whopping one (1) char slot, or maybe even two (2) slots. It is not a solution, as we already have 6 professions, and only 4 slots. Adding in two still leaves out two profs, and no room for PvP-char.

I know that this isn't a problem for everyone, but even more so for some. Unlocking stuff again is just stupid for second account, and inability to log in the two accounts at the same time on same computer (without poking EULA in a evil way).

Make extra char slots buyable, it doesn't need a max limit imo, how does it unbalance the game that you have 16 chars on one account? You can play only one of them at the time anyways...

Shouldn't be a very difficult upgrade, just add a droplist of chars for people with purchased extra slots, or add little arrows left/right that make the chars run around a bit, bringing out the hidden ones.

++ monay to Anet, ++ happy customers.

/signed, yea what they all said. I have no idea why we bought 4 copies/accounts of GW for the 4 PC's we have. We was discussing the upcoming Factions expansion and how many copies/accounts we might purchase when Wife actually mentioned to me a 5th PC , I looked at my butt and wondered where was this money supposed to come from.

FYI our kids play GW with us, "a family that plays together ,stays together"

Haha, quite good read!
The best advertisement for more storage yet! If the financial manager of ANet reads this, he's going to flip.

But hold your horses. Chapter 2 is still undefined how many slots you will get extra. It was rumored to be only 1, but the last screens of LA talk with Gaile show it still needs decision.

I'd say two at max, and that's not enough for meeee. I wanna buy more slots, why won't anyone take my money :'(

Well. Dunno about storage. I want kazillion charslots >.<

As for additional character slots that come with Factions(Chapter 2)...
Well according to what I've read Factions is supposed to be a stand alone game in itself.

So...I say character slots should be dependant on how much Anet plans/sets for a retail price...If they plan on charging $50 for Factions then it darn well better have @ least 4 character slots just as chapter one , if they plan on charging $25(half of Chapter 1 retail) then it should have @ least 2 character slots. $20 or less to buy Factions, then I can see 1 character slot(not that'd I'd be happy about it , minimum should be 2 IMO), $25 - $49.99 we should get 4 character slots in this price range.

reading my own post hurt my head so I simplified it:

$1 to $19.99 = 1 character slot(not that'd I'd be happy about it, minimum should be 2 IMO)
$20 to $24.99 = 2 characters slots minimum
$25 to $50+ = 4 character slots(especially the closer to $50)

*jumps off soapbox

The reason for less vault slots is to prevent hoarding. Much in GW's is about "decision making", do I keep this item and try to sell to a player later on or do I sell it to a merchant opening up my inventory for these 250 candy canes I got. Decisions Decisions.

Preventing hoarding pushes flow of items and resources back into the game instead of your vault in the hopes you can make more money off of it later on. It's an economy issue. Plus it's also a data base issue and data base storage costs money and while the OP may be willing to pay out more money for more vault slots and more character slots, the overall majority might not (I wouldn't in this case), thus, it wouldn't be fair as a "whole" to the rest of the community.

GW's I'm seeing is more of a socialist type game. Everything and everyone must conform and WILL have access to "easy equality" of everyone else. Thus it is a socialistic game world. Notice how easy it is to get to Droknars armor? Which is equal to Grotto/Citidel and Fissure armor? Notice how easy it is to obtain +15% weapons of all types and +12 Energy focus items of all types? Notice how everyone can buy all their skills at one place? Notice how's there's really no need to adventure whatsoever, you can just hop on one of the trains (player runners) at many of the points in the game that will take you anywhere you want to go and only farming for a little bit of gold is necessary to get a few of the things you may want (like upgrades on your collectors weapon or runes for your droknars armor). Collectors will give you the rest. If you're really savy the collectors will even give you droknars type armor, and you can save that 1500gp per item plus resources.

This is what I have come to notice about GW's. It's too easy overall. To much is given easily from collectors gear to collectors weapons. I'm surprised there's even an economy at all and really it only exists for the impatient ones because everything can be had easily by any player given the time.

With the runners present I don't see the damage done to the economy. The runners earn gigantic amounts of money without it really being a part of the designed game. For me that part is more unfair then any stocking that could happen. If they really want people to inject money in the economy they should prevent people bypassing areas where they would otherwise have spend more money.

Now I don't want to blame the runners because if they want to play the game like this and enjoy it, heck I'm happy for them. I don't like it though and I'm playing the whole game with my 4th char again. But I can't help thinking that running is kinda unfair for me, I do need to buy new armor and I have to get items I can make money with. The runners are not interested in farming I guess, they earn with running. That's why, since the economy is broke anyway, that I would appreciate more storage space.

Although I understand that many ppl with 2nd and up chars don't really want to do all missions all over, I can't understand that if you run to Droknars by paying someone else who does all the work for you that you have an advantage over people who choose not to run.

Most simple solution; Droknar's Armor only for lvl20's. Like someone else said; it will still keep the runners alive (plenty of other parts to run) but it wouldn't put such an unfair advantage over the straight path :P. Maybe even put in some other short cuts. This way you can still go fast threw the world, it would cause more money spending, i't wouldn't cause unfair armor advantages (at least minimize it) and runners could still make profits, all happy I guess.

/signed

I agree with the whole "charge for more account space" idea.
But still, how many will be enough for people. Some want 8, others think having less or even more than that will be enough.
What will prevent those with money from buying 100 account spaces and hoarding all that they collect? Especially if they are farmers that sell thier stuff on ebay.
The balance would be more storage space for an account plus adding at least one per new expansion in addition to having an option to buy more account space for more charachters up to a per set number (lets say 8).
The amount of account space for characters has yet to be determined, btw, so lets be patient before making demands.

[The amount of account space for characters has yet to be determined, btw, so lets be patient before making demands.]

Do you really believe everything Gaile or an Anet representative says? lol I don't. I'd bet nickels to dollars it's set in stone right now, they just aren't telling us because if people KNEW there was only going to be 1 slot or 2 they wouldn't preorder or buy the game.

/Signed. i have made over 19 FRIGGIN chars! i am getting tired of making, deleting, making, deleting, making, deleting, making, deleting, making, deleting...(you get the point)

Why should we pay our own money for it? Because we are desperate for it, which is really sad. We are soo desperate for more storage, and they have not given it to us for so long, that we are willing to pay money for it.

Like most other MMO's, I think we should be able to upgrade in game with in game gold. Make it cost a ridiculously huge amount of money to do, but I don't want to have to pay for something that should come in an update, or that other FREE MMO's offer as an in game upgrade.

Not signed.

Try and imagine the size of the DB for all those characters, you seem to forget that everything is stored on the A.net servers.

I know and realize that, isn't it the same for Ultima Online, on the private servers, and many other MMO's? They still offer it.

Also, how did you get the "Beta Tester" under your name, I played in many of the BWE's, yet I don't have that lol.

and being on schedule for 2 more chapters per year after chapter 2 there will be more added each time as new areas of the world (china/japan soon) are added.

maybe if you had to pay each year for the additional cost of the slots for the coming year.

EDIT

HE GOT IT FOR BEING A REAL BETA TESTER NOT A BWE PLAYER

A-ha. So if you wanted to have more chars, you'd have to farm weeks to get enough gold for that? If that was an option, I would be buying the gold needed for that from eBay.

And what's a free MMO? Anyone seen any? Atleast the stuff people play are usually pay-for-play monthly, Guild Wars comes pretty close to 'free' but there's still the price to pay for the game.

Ultima Online private shards are not ran by corporations that are trying to make a living. They are usually funded by paypal donations, hosted by private people's server boxes, just like many other 'free games' are, hacked/stolen/etc server emulators or similar.

Granted, I haven't played many MMOs, Anarchy Online for about a year (8 char slots, and dozen or so professions. Tho getting that 1 char there high/max level takes quite a long time, and having 8 high level chars isn't just going to happen that easy, if ever), EVE for the 2 week trial (3 char slots, which of only ONE could be training skills at any time. Most stupid thing I've seen this far, there the hardcore players have an account for each finger in their hand..)

I think buying extra char slots or even storage slots would be pretty close for something new that hasn't been in other games yet, and if people are willing to pay for the slots, why not? Sure, they should give us loots and loots of slots with the original game and expansions, but as people have said, all those extra slots would mean extra database usage. Extra DB load would balance itself if people paid for those extra slots. People are paying for those extra slots already, by buying 2nd/3rd/4th accounts as is, and most are annoyed at the unlock all stuff again-thing. Having extra accounts is something eBay-farmer-sellers can do for extra storage space as well, so I think saying that extra accounts would make eBay-trader's lives easier is invalid. eBay-sellers don't care about unlocking all the skills again. Real players do. eBay-seller buys the game for $50 or less if they find it cheap, get 4 char slots and a lot more storage space. A normal casual player buys the an extra slot for whatever sum, gets 1 char slot, which prolly ends up as another PvE char.

edit: spelling, forum being slower than a bunch of snails racing in tar.

edit2: more spelling. Sure there's more. ohwell.

I rapidly skimmed everything except the first post, so forgive me (and don't flame me) if someone has already posted this... if someone has, this is to reaffirm it:


They're not going to add more character slots to the regular Guild Wars. They want every advantage to be gained from purchasing chapter II (more professions, new areas, more character slots). It's logical to assume that with the increase in character slots they will also increase your storage space, right? So that's that problem solved too.

If you want to spend money and get more space, chapter II is coming out soon -- and they're probably not going to make major changes to the current game since Factions is due to come out sooner than later.

But, because I support more space overall, I will sign... no matter how futile it may be.

/signed

dont forget to add in your guild hall storage as well

Indeed, we are due to get that by popular rumour... I haven't actually read anything saying it's promised yet... or I have and have simply forgotten.

What stops the hoarders and farmers on ebay from buying multiple copies for storage right now? Absolutely nothing.

They are going to buy more accouts for storage whether you can do it under one accout or multiple. The only thing this change would affect is honest people that do play the game have more pve characters.

I have 2 accouts and one is for storage. Saying that it will off balance the storage and mess up the econemy is completely wrong. That issue is has been present since release of game.

I say we do it. There is already more storage by buying another account. Unlocking all the skills again is so much grind. You can't stop people from buying accounts for storage. Hell you got to get paid. I don't see a problem with this at all and with the figures he posted I would go for. That's the same amount for each slot and storage I paid for when I purchased the game.

Even if the whole database is say 1TB (a few thousands at MOST for a few fast harddrives to house all that data), which is outrageously a lot just for that in the first place, it's still not an issue. Nevertheless, I do NOT see how an extra slot multiplied by the total amount of users would be catastrofic for Anet/NCSoft as some tend to believe. A few millions of extra slots resulting in say 300GB of data would be a pocket change for Anet/NCSoft cost-wise. Storage is no longer a money issue. Even if they spent $100.000 (way way way too much money for storage.. and i'm just throwing figures here) to store all the data, it took most likely somewhat around 10000 GW copies at MOST to cover that. And how many copies were sold? Millions. And millions will be sold in the near future.

So again, storage is not an issue. Stop munching it.

Yes but don't u pay a monthly fee for Ultima Online? And most other games of this nature....

You can't compare apples to oranges here.... I 100% agree with the idea of allowing us to purchase more slots and more characters... as long as I don't have to pay a monthly fee for this... its PERFECT..

You are obviously not a system admin and have never been one... just so you know I've served as a Sr Unix Architect for many of the largest telecommunication companies in the U.S and in Europe...

The issue isn't just storage... see your are correct the price of storage isn't an issue... the price of uptime and of man power goes up as you increase storage... If you think they are gonna buy $100,000 in storage you need people to set up the storage, monitor it for hot spots, etc.. etc.. etc.. backups now you need more tapes, oh and damn the backup window just got messed up, now I need another few fiber drives because of the new storage I just added... this is NOT a simple issue of going to best buy and buying a new hard drive.. there is A LOT more to consider then that... especially when we are talking about Database storage space.. you can't just plug and play... database archives need to be backed up every 10-15 min at mininum, with full system dumps to disk every night, with 3 days worth of database on disk before moving the data off site to tape..

If there is a SAN, WOW now you need more ports on your SAN switch, you need more cable, etc.. etc.. the list goes on...

What does this actually have to do with the topic, BUYING that extra char slot? Yes, that extra char slot would require more database space. But so does the EXTRA ACCOUNTS people are buying NOW. That eats even more database space.

A.Net's hardware and database size system IS NOT the issue here. You can buy kazillion accounts, and ANet just has to accomodate them.

Only change that is proposed in this thread, is an option to buy more slots to your existing account which makes the lives of 'real' players easier instead of spreading your stuff across multiple accounts.

Not really directed at you, Linsys, just wanted to point out discussing ANet's hardware is pretty pointless as well, when the thread starts from buying those extra slots, not giving them free for every player.

most of us need more space ^^

/signD

Here is the problem. Say 3 casual gamers play a few times a week. If they have 6 slots, what prevents them from each taking a PvP spot and a PvE spot and playing at different times. I am sure some families already have an arrangement like this-- my little brothers shared an account for a few months until they bought another. Right now there is the possiblity of playing the game through with each of the classes (as primary and secondary) and keep those characters while having a 4th PvE slot. Nothing is lost if you delete a slot and start over if you so wish. This is enough for one person to "completely" play the game and makes account sharing less reasonable.

The only ones hurt in the current setup are farmers who spend incredible amounts of time on a free game. It really isn't that difficult to dump a load of stuff on a storage account. If you are putting hundreds of hours into farming get another account and give A-net the full $50. I see no reason why farmers should get discounted storage space.

They would be breaking the EULA, and Anet could just terminate the account. I know some people are sharing the existing accounts, it's an existing problem, not something buying extra slots would cause. Buying extra slots would actually give Anet extra income even with the 'account sharers' as they would buy that extra slot, instead of not buying the extra account. Not supporting account sharing, it should be monitored (problem is, how?) and the offenders suspended. Thenagain, eBay etc is as well against EULA, but still people are selling stuff in eBay.

It has been stated earlier that W/Mo isn't the same thing as Mo/W. Players that would like to play each primary without deleting hundred or more hours of work suffer here. What's the point in buying 15k armor, superior vigor etc runes on a char you'll end up deleting because you want to try another primary profession?


I don't think of myself as a farmer. I want to play all the primary professions, and current char slots don't allow me to do so, without deleting hours of work. Casual farmers, limited slots in one account really hurt them sure, but they are OK'd by Anet, and I think they are allowed to farm if they want to, for buying ingame stuff anyways. Professional Farmers, meaning those selling virtual stuff for real currency aren't hurt by current situation either. Actually, they are profiting from forced to have 2nd storage accounts. They can farm on 1st account, and have their bot selling on the 2nd account.

/bow for you.
/signed
/salute

While i think your idea for account upgrade it cool. I do think the amounts you posted for extras is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more extravagant than buying another account.

lol /signed

Just because you have 2 accounts doesn't mean the majority are going to have 2 accounts for storage. Just because you play a certain way doesn't mean everyone wants to. This because I pay I deserve is just a waste of time. Anet must figure what the "majority" want and will do and will buy, not a handful of I want this I want that I want I want I want. They will maintain a balance to the economy as much as possible. Keeping hording down is one way. Keeping character slots minimum is another. Saves them date base money as so many keep bypassing or forgetting. Everything costs MONEY and a handful of people won't pay the bills.

If people are annoyed by having low storage, they'll just buy another account. They can hoard now. They can get multiple char slots now. It doesn't save Anet any database space now. I haven't seen a single valid argument why people shouldn't be allowed to buy additional char slots to their existing accounts. They are giving money to Anet for the char slot, which Anet can use to upkeep the database & the corporation.

After enabling buying the slots, most things won't change. Only thing that changes is that people who would like to make PvE/PvP chars without having to repeatedly unlocking skills/items can do so. eBay-hoarders would still buy extra accounts, or slots now that it's possible, but they would still consume the database as they are doing now, none the less they are paying for the DB they use, and keeping ANet running (No, I don't support eBay farmers. They suck. But seeing that they aren't going anywhere..). Casual/common/normal players would now prefer to buy additional slot instead of account thanks to not bothering themselves with unlocking annoyances. If they just bought a char slot, they would miss out on the xunlai storage space, reducing the DB usage from that if they had bought a 2nd account.