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People claim stats are determined BEFORE you ID. I just want to know your take on this.
Stats are determined pre-ID
LifeInfusion
Goolick
It is impossible to know.
Lasareth
I believe it. As there's no conclusive evidence short of lag to prove it, or to prove otherwise, I don't think there can really be any other way to find out, either.
Not that it really matters, imo.. it's one of those 'does anyone care' type of topics. Whether it is or not has no effect on the way things work, unless someone plans on hacking the server and resetting the item or something
Not that it really matters, imo.. it's one of those 'does anyone care' type of topics. Whether it is or not has no effect on the way things work, unless someone plans on hacking the server and resetting the item or something
dargon
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Originally Posted by Goolick
It is impossible to know.
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Jczech
I know for a fact they're determined before you ID. Once, waaaay back when my Elementalist was first reaching the Copperhammer Mines, I was doing my usual ID/sell off junk. The server messed up / hiccup'ed, booted a bunch of people (myself included). When I got back online, everything was back to as it was when I first entered Copperhammer (nothing more annoying than having to resell a bunch of junk ) and, surprise surprise, everything was exactly the same as before. Same stupid runes (I actually failed a salvage attempt the second time as opposed to the first time I succeeded, this before it was automatic), same useless upgrades, same everything.
There's a bit more to the story, but in a sentence: Stats are determined when the item is dropped.
) and, surprise surprise, everything was exactly the same as before. Same stupid runes (I actually failed a salvage attempt the second time as opposed to the first time I succeeded, this before it was automatic), same useless upgrades, same everything.There's a bit more to the story, but in a sentence: Stats are determined when the item is dropped.
One and Two
If the story is true...its proof.
Savio
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Originally Posted by dargon
Not at all. I've been in a fight against stone summit who were hitting me with a vampyric hammer, guess what dropped. The moment a mob is created, so is his equipment, and so is a list of the parts of that equipment that could potentially drop.
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KuTeBaka
you can equip an unid weapon and see if there is a telltale -1 energy regen, -1 health regen, or +health.
Sanji
Yep, I've seen evidence pointing towards Monster holding the weapon they drop due to Mist Form's old version which still took damage from Elemental modded weapons.
:P So it kind of stood out when I took elemental damage from a Tengu's weapon and then indentify it as such when it dropped.
:P So it kind of stood out when I took elemental damage from a Tengu's weapon and then indentify it as such when it dropped.
azunder
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Originally Posted by Savio
Yep, I can tell when someone's carrying a crappy 1:-1 vamp bow, a 4:-1 gold vamp bow, or a 5:-1 green vamp bow. The enemies pretty much carry what weapons and equipment they're going to drop.
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aron searle
and what about when the griffs drop bows, unless ive missed it ive never seen them use one.
Baibai
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Originally Posted by azunder
Wouldn't the enemy die of vamp degen before you reach them if they're far into the level?
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Savio
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Originally Posted by aron searle
and what about when the griffs drop bows, unless ive missed it ive never seen them use one.
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Sanji
Yeah, everything I've seen up to this point has me convinced that if you see a monster holding a Firey Dragon Sword or whatever, he WILL have it in his loot table. He may not drop it, but he has the potential to.
Frits
So the Avicara outside of Droknars Actually drop Fellblades? I've seen them use them but i've never seen them drop any
mamluk
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Originally Posted by Frits
So the Avicara outside of Droknars Actually drop Fellblades? I've seen them use them but i've never seen them drop any
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, but one nonetheless.
Savio
Fellblades drop pretty much anywhere past the Crystal Desert.