Lamest GvG Strat Ever! Anet PLEASE do something

Lol. Their both stupid, coming to flame each other on these forums, 1 using a glitch and the other using a griefer build. People stop picking one's side, because their both lame.

In almost every competition in organized sports, there are rules regarding cheating, manipulation and exploiting. Some of the penalties are quite severe. I don't know how anet feels about the integrity of their ladder. That decision is ultimately theirs.

I agree, Neither side is right, Its not right that he was using that exploit but i'm just trying to let it be known that we did not know of this exploit ourselfs, And having his name as four energy regen doesn't mean that we knew either for all we know he took that name because one energy regen or two energy regen or even three was already taken, Thats like saying every pet with the name as guildlord must really be the guildlord.


And saying we should notice he didn't have boots on, During a battle are you looking at your skill bar, or your teammates boots the whole battle?

good. now i don't have to shut down my brain every time i read one of your posts.

that 4 pip energy regen is cheating. it's kind of stupid that someone wouldn't notice that.

sitting around and waiting for the enemy to disconnect is also stupid.

either way, that match was stupid, when you look at it. now, will someone PLEASE close this thread?

LoL

Leave The game
whoever uses that just has no capability to make a real build and nor has a lot of time

As somebody who knows Dion and melvy personally and has talked to them about this, let me explain something (since they're doing a crummy job of explaining it themselves). I can't remember if my profile claims if I'm in TSF, but if it does, I haven't been for months.

They weren't waiting for people to drop. They simply took advantage of the fact that the Ranger team's build couldn't kill them while they were in their current location. So they waited them out. Not with the thought that they'd drop. (I clarified this because when Dion originally sent me this thread, I responded with "that sounds lame of you guys" and we talked about it)

Clearly it's unfortunate that GW doesn't have a resolution to these kinds of stalements, but given that they don't you can't blame another team for simply having the patience to employ and sound strategy and wait for the other team to make a bad decision. That's just gamesmenship- pure and simple.

That the other team was A- cheating B- acting like 12 year olds (and lol @ the suggestion that taking screenshots of a conversation and posting them takes any effort at all) and it seems like TSF's strategy worked.

Lol, yes it's getting completely out of hand!

Mighty Mystics + TSF =

I just want to state that i love this grudge match of an argument. i have gotten numerous laughs out of it and i have a few points i want to make

1.I would not say that the guild with 1 ranger exploiting should be banned, there needs to be a softer punishment.
2. I Dont see how anyone could NOT side with TSF. but nonetheless both of these teams were the victims here. TSF sat in their base because anything less would have ended in their defeat. but on the other hand the other team could not sit in their base and lose their flag, it was all that was sustaining them.
*i wonder whats worse... camping in your base to anhilate another team? or maybe running away whenever you are about to lose...
3. i cannot stand how people keep saying TSF are evil because they sat there for 2 hours waiting for someone to drop. because if you would read back you would see that TSF said that people only dropped after they were being killed and were going to lose.
4. i agree with both teams, each strategy was valid, each build was powerful. just dont hate TSF because they won.

Each build was crap too, and TSF won alright, won by Default. Not Skill.

The problem with Zida's argument is that MM could have sat in their base too and had a staring match since TSF couldn't come out to destroy them either.

Im still laughing at those who make fun of the build without really knowing it, honestly,I am.

but TSF did win by skill, didnt they? they had more power, they had healing, and they used their surroundings (more ranger-like than the ranger build :P) and if MM were the ones camping, according to the facts, TSF would have won, the only reason TSF didnt win *faster* is becuase they couldnt stack MM's DP, because MM had the flag, so if the situation were reversed, technically TSF would have won

Zida, we did win, they charged the gl, and then ran back. They started dropping from the game after we killed a few of them that were running.



Im done wit this thread though.



EDIT AGAIN, Zida,I know, but im just sick of the same people saying the same things.

yes, im on your guilds side anraeth. I was simply countering someone elses comment. TSF did win, and they would have won faster if the situation were reversed as well.

I still have yet to hear a counter from the TSF people. If their build was so dang good, why did they sit there and wait for 2 hours...
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still waiting.
I'll repeat what I've said before. What if MM had just camped in THEIR base and waited for YOU? Your build couldn't have gone in and stomped them either.

It was a stalemate, and MM were smart enough to call it quits unlike TSF.

well, you didnt read my post, did you. if MM were the ones camping TSF could have used the flag stand for their morale, and then they could have "Stomped Them". the thing that made trouble for TSF was not being able to go out, take the flag stand, and end MM's Morale Regen. ( a valid strategy on MM's part.)

DUDE, Kassad man.... MM only called it quits when TSF decided to chase their few remaining players, and killed some of them, MM didnt call it quits because they were mature and had lives(not saying that they dont) they called it quits because they saw they lost and didnt have patience for a match they could not win!

Our Necro received Err 7 after 2 hours and dropped, we made final attempt at a rush and since we coudn't take them down anymore we just fought it out moved out and resigned knowing that if we regrouped, even with 7 players they'd still sit at their base.

Mighty Mystics [MM] is REFORMING as Mighty Mystics Guild [MM] and starting from the beginning as so there is no question concerning our build or any members part of it.

I would like to see the restart

I have read this post... heard from my guild over it and read the posts for both sides of the issue. This is my first post... as I find it pointless to do so for the most part. As many of the mudslinging and name calling is always going to be evident when there is a game in which children have access to playing.

But to the point... I was not present to the match, though I did gain an understanding of the matchup. Would I have waited 2 hours? Oh no way... I am a teacher and that would have made my life miserable to wake up for in the morning considering this matchup was late last night I believe.

Now... For my point in this GvG match... As if anyone wishes to hear or even cares or be simply dismissed as another rant. Basically, I see there was a cheat/exploit used. Granted, the name called it and the lack of boots was a deadgive away.

As for the match... making use of a terrain is completely a logical and smart way to win. Name me one battle in history in which the terrain was NOT used or attempted to be manipulated to aide in their victory. Point made on that I believe....

How to avoid arrow shots? Hide behind something... much like digging trenches and sandbags to protect oneself from getting a bullet to the body. The point of it being "stupid" seems to be a very foolish opinion that can hold no water or has any validity.

TSF made use of a strategy of waiting it out... much like battles in the eastern part of the world. Wait it out and in the desert, he who has no water loses. Wait it out until someone makes a mistake and capitalize upon it. Simple as that... 2 hours is ridiculous in my opinion and I am surprised anyone stayed that long for it. I could think of a bunch of other things I would rather do than sit around and wait... but thankfully I was not apart of the build last night as I would have been one to dropped long before then. LOL.

Bottom Line.... there was a cheat/exploit used... Did it completely alter the whole matchup? No, I do not think so.... but was it a definete bonus? Yes indeed... I believe it did aid them very much to spam and keep up with energy. Was it a bit lame to hide out? Yes it is... but then again.. it is a strategy and to wait to see who would make the first move which appears MM did by leaving. So be it.. many wars/battles have been won by this strategy and it is effective... if you got the time to sit back.

I just read this thread and I am a member of the Mighty Mystics. I was not present at the battle but I thought I'd add my words about the exploit.

I personally do not condone the use of exploits and I hope ArenaNet takes appropriate action to return the ladder to its state before the Mystics started playing in it. I hope all points are returned to any guilds we beat in the ladder.

I will continue to play with the Mystics in a new guild. I know the 19 out of 20 Mystic players that have not and do not use exploits will be more than able to return to the top of the ladder in a short period of time.

Mystic Marz, that is very big of you.

This sounds like a pissing match between two guilds who had the unfortunate experience to: 1) run into one another in a GvG match; and 2) had the bad luck to also find one another here.

This isn't the place to shake your fists and beat the war drums. Take it to...er...well...somewhere else as this argument isn't providing any useful discourse to GWG.

I'll let this forum's mods know that this needs to be closed.

i agree, but before its closed we need something to be done about the cheater, not a ban, but Anet needs to find a way to fix all those rangers out there without their boots

I am done after this .. just got this from support ----

Hello,

Thanks for contacting the Guild Wars Support Team.

We appreciate you taking the time to submit your report. Our development team is aware of the issue you described. While at this time we do not have a specific time frame for a fix to this issue, you can be certain that it will be addressed. You may wish to periodically check http://www.guildwars.com/news/gameupdates.html for the latest update notes.

It is important to note that we are unable to replace or restore lost items, characters, or experience. Thankfully, instances of such loss are extremely rare, but in any case, we cannot perform any sort of restoration

We apologize for the inconvenience, but are thankful for your assistance in helping us solve this issue.

Regards,

The Guild Wars Support Team

Well i have read the entire thread, everything contradict itself and it's quite funny... I hope they close this thread but that they don't delete it for one reason only : a reminber on how some guilds has no manners and no respect while in gvg. And that's really sad to see Sadly, i've met alot of them but at least they weren't camping out and it didn't seem like they we're cheating.

Form response FTW. Where's Gaile when you need her? I don't mind the automated form letters, and it's nice that anet does have visible faces amongst the game forums. Having a rep weigh in on this one would be nice, though.

The biggest problem here is that it's not called "Stare Wars" its Guild Wars.

A single Water Ele would have made the whole healing ball impossible.

How sad that no one ever notices us.