Expertise and Attack Energy cost?

melkoriii

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

Ok so so I have Expertise at 5 which should give me a 20% reduction in Energy cost of attacks yet none of them have changed.

My attacks that cost 10 still cost 10.
Penetrating Attack still cost 10
Cyclone Axe still cost 5

Am I missing somthing?

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

It won't show up in any visible way except when you use the skill .... take notice of how much energy is used. It does work.

nicky nightmare

nicky nightmare

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

between a rock and a hard place......

Miendrak'el Myrth (MeM

indeed it does. for a while i thought as you did then i noticed that i wasnt losing as much energy on my skill bar as i should be.... that was when i still had a ranger.

wiz12268

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

California

Men In Black

I made a chart with the break downs somewhere in here. Shows the amount of energy you use at certain attribute levels per original charge.

Only effects ranger skills not secondary skills.

melkoriii

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by wiz12268

Only effects ranger skills not secondary skills.

REALLY!?

That sucks.

The discription does not say that.

Well at least my main is a Wa/Mo

NatalieD

NatalieD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by wiz12268
Only effects ranger skills not secondary skills.
Not true. Expertise affects anything that isn't a spell, regardless of which class it comes from.

Valerius

Valerius

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

R/

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...sts-id1154.php

and wiz... plz don't post if u have no idea what ur talking about... like natalie said... expertise effects everything except spells... for all classes

ChoKILLate[FDG]

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

[FDG]-Fudge

Mo/Me

If ranger is your secondary and warrior is your primary you get no benefit by putting point in expertise.

melkoriii

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Valerius
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...sts-id1154.php

and wiz... plz don't post if u have no idea what ur talking about... like natalie said... expertise effects everything except spells... for all classes
Feew thanks guys. make me feel better

Oh and if ranger is your secondary you shouldnt have Expertise as a attribute.

Valerius

Valerius

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

R/

Quote:
If ranger is your secondary and warrior is your primary you get no benefit by putting point in expertise.
umm... u won't even have the option to put points into the Expertise line... it's a Ranger primary attribute...

Jenosavel

Jenosavel

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Jul 2005

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChoKILLate[FDG]
If ranger is your secondary and warrior is your primary you get no benefit by putting point in expertise.
That cracks me up. lol

...I seriously hope it's sarcasm.

wiz12268

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

California

Men In Black

My bad I guess. I just never noticed it since my secondary was ele, and all I did was use spells with it. No factor now as I don't use anything BUT ranger skills.

Nevertheless I made a chart that shows how much a 5/10/15/25 base skill costs at a particular Expertise attribute number. So if it does work with non spell skills then I imagine it has the same benefit.

NatalieD

NatalieD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by wiz12268
My bad I guess. I just never noticed it since my secondary was ele, and all I did was use spells with it.
It is an easy mistake to make if your secondary is anything but warrior. There are a few non-spell skills in all of the caster professions, but not a whole lot.

Quote:
Nevertheless I made a chart that shows how much a 5/10/15/25 base skill costs at a particular Expertise attribute number. So if it does work with non spell skills then I imagine it has the same benefit.
That it does.

Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Shadowlight Order [SoR]

There are probably quite a few instances where expertise helps out on your secondary but my favorite is with mesmer mantras. Most (if not all) are stances which your expertise does affect. The mantras are pretty useful in different situations and many bows have their damage bonus tied to stances. In addition to drastically reducing an elemental or physical damage, they last a long time compared to ranger stances which are short lived and have a hellacious recharge time.