Expertise and Attack Energy cost?

Ok so so I have Expertise at 5 which should give me a 20% reduction in Energy cost of attacks yet none of them have changed.

My attacks that cost 10 still cost 10.
Penetrating Attack still cost 10
Cyclone Axe still cost 5

Am I missing somthing?

It won't show up in any visible way except when you use the skill .... take notice of how much energy is used. It does work.

indeed it does. for a while i thought as you did then i noticed that i wasnt losing as much energy on my skill bar as i should be.... that was when i still had a ranger.

I made a chart with the break downs somewhere in here. Shows the amount of energy you use at certain attribute levels per original charge.

Only effects ranger skills not secondary skills.

REALLY!?

That sucks.

The discription does not say that.

Well at least my main is a Wa/Mo

Not true. Expertise affects anything that isn't a spell, regardless of which class it comes from.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...sts-id1154.php

and wiz... plz don't post if u have no idea what ur talking about... like natalie said... expertise effects everything except spells... for all classes

If ranger is your secondary and warrior is your primary you get no benefit by putting point in expertise.

Feew thanks guys. make me feel better

Oh and if ranger is your secondary you shouldnt have Expertise as a attribute.

umm... u won't even have the option to put points into the Expertise line... it's a Ranger primary attribute...

That cracks me up. lol

...I seriously hope it's sarcasm.

My bad I guess. I just never noticed it since my secondary was ele, and all I did was use spells with it. No factor now as I don't use anything BUT ranger skills.

Nevertheless I made a chart that shows how much a 5/10/15/25 base skill costs at a particular Expertise attribute number. So if it does work with non spell skills then I imagine it has the same benefit.

It is an easy mistake to make if your secondary is anything but warrior. There are a few non-spell skills in all of the caster professions, but not a whole lot.

That it does.

There are probably quite a few instances where expertise helps out on your secondary but my favorite is with mesmer mantras. Most (if not all) are stances which your expertise does affect. The mantras are pretty useful in different situations and many bows have their damage bonus tied to stances. In addition to drastically reducing an elemental or physical damage, they last a long time compared to ranger stances which are short lived and have a hellacious recharge time.