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smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

19 Oct 2005 at 03:01 - 1

for the first time, i think ive seen someone actually use some kind of below the belt tactic in the hoh :S

we were in the actual hoh map, in the first little fight before the bridge. we faced some koreans. we run in blablabla, about 5 seconds in to the match, all 8 people on the team experience intense lag, there screens are frozen for about 30 seconds, and everyone lags out of vent. when it unfroze, we were dead and one of the players on the other team was saying something about hacking.

the only thing which makes me think it wasnt specifically a *hack* on the part of the other team was that everyone in the SB/community vent also lagged out, which makes me think it wasnt the other team that hit us with it, but some error in the part of our vent server.

so my question is, has this happened to anyone else? does anet know about this? and is there something wrong with the sb vent?

but it was funny as hell, ill give you that

Arathorn5000

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Xen of Onslaught Ladder [XoO]

19 Oct 2005 at 04:44 - 2

One time I was against a korean team and I lagged like crazy (I'd see a frame, then 15 seconds later see a new frame), and then I lagged out after 5 minutes. After I shutdown guildwars I realized that it was just my I-tunes completely bugging out on my system

Sister Rosette

Lady Fie

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sapporo

Tha Skulls [Ts]

D/W

19 Oct 2005 at 05:56 - 3

Lol standby cheat?

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

19 Oct 2005 at 06:04 - 4

i have noticed this sometimes with my browser on guru with that crappy ipod ad at the top eating my bandwidth. that would be funny if they hit you with a lag bomb through vent.

possible but highly unlikely.

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

19 Oct 2005 at 09:17 - 5

actually i talked to some guys again and apparently it was 2 american teams and 3 korean teams.. both american guys lagged. i think the servers got lagged or somethin

w.e

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

19 Oct 2005 at 09:30 - 6

LOL this was the madest cheat i had ever seen
it happened a few months ago and we had just got past the rifters
(back in the day) everything seemed cool and then i clicked ctrl to see my enmies there it was about 20 pets all called troll ungeunts and 1 necromancer i thought to myself hmm whats happening here when they reached us the pets exploded and all of us died very weird

LOL it was very funny

Rivers

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

19 Oct 2005 at 09:47 - 7

wow more ways for hackers to ruin our game, this is just as bad as the virgoods bot in the tombs (which Anet havent done anything about)

I dont think that they can intentionally make you Lag, it happens to me all the time, always in the same places.

Still, it makes me wonder why people would go to all the time & effort to create viruses or hacks for GW so they could win HoH.

Man With No Name

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Manchester, UK

W/

19 Oct 2005 at 11:41 - 8

So this happened after they applied the Network Update on the 14 October 3:05 PM PDT..??

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guild Wars

Network News – 14 October 3:05 PM PDT

The problem with Tournaments and Guild Battles has been corrected. Thank you for your patience.

Network News – 14 October 2:30 PM PDT

Tournaments and Guild Battles are currently nonfunctional. We are working on the issue and should have a resolution very shortly.

It's most likely a leftover problem from that -- to lag out 16 seperate people's internet connections simultaneously would take some voodoo magic

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

19 Oct 2005 at 12:53 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Man With No Name

So this happened after they applied the Network Update on the 14 October 3:05 PM PDT..??

It's most likely a leftover problem from that -- to lag out 16 seperate people's internet connections simultaneously would take some voodoo magic

voodoo magic is nice, but you could also overload the american gw server, giving everyone some hefty lag.

romO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Chicago

Idiot Savants [iQ]

Mo/

19 Oct 2005 at 15:32 - 10

yes, its the server that has the problem. every now and then, servers will just fill up with people and lag and everyone will spontaneously drop. one time we were in hall and something like this happened. only one of our team managed to stay in the game and two members from each of the other two teams. our player was a monk so unforunately we lost. it does happen and it is quite annoying, but there isnt much to do but just suck it up.

Hanuman li Tosh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

garden of the gods, CO

Over Powered

N/

19 Oct 2005 at 15:37 - 11

there is definately a lag cheat as someone described it to our group. he was real careful about his wording so as he didnt actually ask us to do it but he let us know exactly how it was done. we kicked him anyway. he said it was a bridge you ran with 2 people outside of GW but it only lagged one person out not the whole team.

John Waffletord

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Baltimore, MD, USA

19 Oct 2005 at 15:44 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by smurfhunter

voodoo magic is nice, but you could also overload the american gw server, giving everyone some hefty lag.

possible, yet very risky and most likely the person who did it would be arrested.

I used to know a group of guys, who about 7 years ago took down yahoo, ebay and google for a few hours all at the same time. They were arrested and it was all over the news.

If someone is stupid enough to attack a GW server just to win a game, then they need help.

Although, it does make sense that this happened as a result of normal lag. The further away an object is physically the more hops packets have to go through travelling from point A to point B and back. Any one of those hops could have had a routing issue.

Tmm Ryan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Plkn

19 Oct 2005 at 15:48 - 13

My GvG vs a korean guild. I Experienced lag for the first time of the 2 months iv played the game, and i got disconnected with an error. Quite annoying as i am guild leader, and i needed to be there to tell my guildies on teamspeak what to do and were to go etc.

First time anything like that has ever happenned. Weird huh?

Aracos79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Great Southwest

Shadowstorm Mercenaries

E/

19 Oct 2005 at 15:48 - 14

So that's why Koreans kick ass at online games. They're so far away that we lag so much, and they look like they're moving faster than they are! Sneaky devils.

j/k

Charcoal Ann

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

In a World of BADGERS!

Eternal Flame Brotherhood

19 Oct 2005 at 16:00 - 15

yesterday evening i was in a tombs group. first battle in we met a guild team that shouted things like 'u r gonna bee [email protected]'. i ignored this (they had a guild rating of 1200 so i presumed some elitist n00bs, if they were acting like that)
they all had death nova on them and were (i think) all secondary necros. Necro bomb i thought. no EoE though. i decided to stay back, i wasn't going to fall for that.

we all died. no numbers above our heads. no nothing. simply the ceaseation of the collective life of every single member of our team.
I didn't take a screenshot cos i was in shock.

Mr D J

Permanently Unbanned

Join Date: Jun 2005

19 Oct 2005 at 16:08 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

LOL this was the madest cheat i had ever seen
it happened a few months ago and we had just got past the rifters
(back in the day) everything seemed cool and then i clicked ctrl to see my enmies there it was about 20 pets all called troll ungeunts and 1 necromancer i thought to myself hmm whats happening here when they reached us the pets exploded and all of us died very weird

LOL it was very funny

LOL That one really made me laugh i just imagined exploding pets ROFL

Schorny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

19 Oct 2005 at 16:14 - 17

Let's look at it from a technical point:
no way

enough said

But i'll explain if you want:
GW is serverbased - that means: all data is send to the server. Therefore the other team can't get your IP addresses and therefore can't DoS you.

And there is no way you instantly die without taking damage - that would mean someone intruded the GW servers - and this is very unlikely.

I guess you missed the numbers from the edge bomb - it is really instant death...

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

19 Oct 2005 at 17:40 - 18

what would be funny is if they cheated and still lost. like once in CS there was a clear cheater on the other team, he ran uber fast and hsed you every time. fun thing was he still got owned

aaahi bet the koreans all had 56k connects and ran disk defrag at the same time for uber lag