I'm thinking of a Ranger Ele build for myself since I already have alot of mesmer, necromancer, warrior, and a crapload of monk spells unlocked.
Final Build:
10: Earth Magic
8: Wilderness Survival
10: Marksmanship
Rest: Expertise
Spellbar: Armor of Earth, Apply Poison, Troll Ungeant, Dodge, Magnetic Aura, Lightning Reflexes. Whirling Defense, Ward of Melee.
Yoou can poison foes while you dodge almost anything, and if you can't dodge it, with Armor of Earth you can tank pretty damn good. I wasn't planning on going solo for a long time, but I think you can for quite a while. It can also help in parties while you tank and your party starts hacking and slashing at enemies.
This build worked wonders in PvP, excpet I used Obsidian Flame instead of Dodge for PvP, but Dodge can work well also.
Any comments?
R/E PvE/PvP Build
Wretchman Drake
Wretchman Drake
Ok, im starting to think the people on these forums suck. Please comment, 7 views and nothing, I don't understand why people don't help me out whenever I post on this site, it just makes a bad example... and please DONT post search links because I tried that and I hate it because it never gives me a direct answer... 
OK, let's start over. Can someone please comment?
OK, let's start over. Can someone please comment?
Foppe
U almost got no offense :/
Wretchman Drake
Well it frustrates me I keep posting builds for help and nobody answers, what kind of help is that? It's not that hard considering you spend time on a game forum...
User Name
you'll never be able to upkeep energy costs with a rangers mana pool and no expertise.
Shwitz
My main character is a ranger, and I'm a huge supporter of rangers using bow attacks, of which you have none. Sure, you can poison, and sure, you can dodge/heal... but being a primary ranger, you're not a huge target in PvP. The casters are more likely the target. It also seems you're overly concerned with defense, having lots of dodge/evade/block/armor buffs and not a single attack. To take advantage of your incredible defensive ability, you'll want to pack some sort of punch to get the attention of the opposing damage dealers. The way it looks right now, in a 4v4 arena the opposing team can pretty much ignore you and kill the rest of your team, since the only thing you'll be doing to them is throwing a little poison around. A bow attack or two would go a long way.
EDIT: To the post-er above me, Expertise only affects non-spell skills, but the OP is using lots of enchantments and other spells like Magnetic Aura and Ward Against Melee, which wouldn't be affected by Expertise. Expertise would help him with his stances, Troll Unguent and Apply Poison, but all of those Earth spells would be the full cost...
Also, I just noticed you don't carry a Res Sig. For shame! Unless you clear it with your PvE group beforehand, take that trusty signet!
EDIT: To the post-er above me, Expertise only affects non-spell skills, but the OP is using lots of enchantments and other spells like Magnetic Aura and Ward Against Melee, which wouldn't be affected by Expertise. Expertise would help him with his stances, Troll Unguent and Apply Poison, but all of those Earth spells would be the full cost...
Also, I just noticed you don't carry a Res Sig. For shame! Unless you clear it with your PvE group beforehand, take that trusty signet!
Wretchman Drake
I see. You made a good point there. What about the build for PvE, would it be good for then?
And for PvP, well... What kind of build should I make? I'm kinda clueless on the PvP part.
And for PvP, well... What kind of build should I make? I'm kinda clueless on the PvP part.
Shwitz
PvE, the build might serve well as an evasion tank. With no other warriors in the group and some cooperation from the rest of the team, you could probably work it out with the team that you run in front of the group and aggro the mobs while the rest are at a safe distance. Once you get all of the mobs' attention, the elementalists, mesmers, and necromancers can step up and do their thing. You might have a bit of trouble in areas with lots of caster enemies though...
For PvP, I'd probably drop Dodge and Magnetic Aura for bow attacks, and drop your Wilderness Survival to 7 so that you can pump Expertise up to 9. Two stances might even be too much... and find a place for the res sig! I'd have to think some more about further tweaks to make this build PvP ready...
For PvP, I'd probably drop Dodge and Magnetic Aura for bow attacks, and drop your Wilderness Survival to 7 so that you can pump Expertise up to 9. Two stances might even be too much... and find a place for the res sig! I'd have to think some more about further tweaks to make this build PvP ready...
Wretchman Drake
What 2 bow attacks should I add? I hardly have any on my account. Hunter's Shot and Penetrating shot and Power shot, yea ok, but those aren't too great. You're a pro ranger, what should I use?
Shwitz
I wouldn't go so far to call me a pro, but thanks for the compliment.
Depending on your attribute levels for Marksmanship and Expertise, the following damage-oriented bow attacks are some of my favorites to couple with Apply Poison as a preparation...
Point Blank Shot
Penetrating Attack
Hunter's Shot
Depending on how close you plan on getting, what type of bow you use, your level of Expertise, and your attribute point distribution after rune and mask bonuses, two of those three would do nicely.
Depending on your attribute levels for Marksmanship and Expertise, the following damage-oriented bow attacks are some of my favorites to couple with Apply Poison as a preparation...
Point Blank Shot
Penetrating Attack
Hunter's Shot
Depending on how close you plan on getting, what type of bow you use, your level of Expertise, and your attribute point distribution after rune and mask bonuses, two of those three would do nicely.
Knido
ide go with penetrating attack and pindown if you have it, cause ive always beleived that rangers are a utility build that are meant to survive and aid their teamate through the use of snares, interrupts, and traps
Freddeh
also, forum etiquette help, please don't get pissy when you wait maybe an hour and noone responds...i normally wait a day before bumping it...and you also posted in the morning/early afternoon on a friday US time...patience is a virtue, friend
Tactical-Dillusions
Echo + debilitating shot >>>----> at the Monk. A bad monk would be out of mana in a short time indeed and a good monk would be sent packing.
You can also add a nice preparation to the build
and still have plenty of slots for defence, for when the monk calls you as the target.
You can also add a nice preparation to the build
and still have plenty of slots for defence, for when the monk calls you as the target.
Monkey Meat
My 1st char. was a R/E I PvE got all spell/skills and ventured into PvP off and on early, with some good success (25 in a row with 4v4) running a damage/fire build when there weren't many mesmers out there and no IWAY,
Anymore I had to change to a trapper rgr with ward melee/ward ele due to the only HOH groups out there are trappers occasionally I'd run into a rgr spike but far and few between, not many people in HOH want rgrs except trap or an occasions request for distract, I guess nobody sees the high potential dmg barrage, and other skills can do and can also tank 2 warriors with troll and certain stances-- I can go on about rgrs soloing UW FOW I've seen, I know a good built R/E can dominate in PvE or PvP(with a good group). Good Luck With your R/E
Anymore I had to change to a trapper rgr with ward melee/ward ele due to the only HOH groups out there are trappers occasionally I'd run into a rgr spike but far and few between, not many people in HOH want rgrs except trap or an occasions request for distract, I guess nobody sees the high potential dmg barrage, and other skills can do and can also tank 2 warriors with troll and certain stances-- I can go on about rgrs soloing UW FOW I've seen, I know a good built R/E can dominate in PvE or PvP(with a good group). Good Luck With your R/E
Shwitz
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions
Echo + debilitating shot >>>----> at the Monk. A bad monk would be out of mana in a short time indeed and a good monk would be sent packing.
You can also add a nice preparation to the build and still have plenty of slots for defence, for when the monk calls you as the target.
Serpent's Quickness + Echo + Debilitating Shot is a great R/Me combo for energy denial, but the thread is about R/E's. Have any suggestions for the OP as far as R/E combos go?
You can also add a nice preparation to the build
and still have plenty of slots for defence, for when the monk calls you as the target.
Serpent's Quickness + Echo + Debilitating Shot is a great R/Me combo for energy denial, but the thread is about R/E's. Have any suggestions for the OP as far as R/E combos go?
Amos
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkey Meat
My 1st char. was a R/E I PvE got all spell/skills and ventured into PvP off and on early, with some good success (25 in a row with 4v4) running a damage/fire build when there weren't many mesmers out there and no IWAY,
Anymore I had to change to a trapper rgr with ward melee/ward ele due to the only HOH groups out there are trappers occasionally I'd run into a rgr spike but far and few between, not many people in HOH want rgrs except trap or an occasions request for distract, I guess nobody sees the high potential dmg barrage, and other skills can do and can also tank 2 warriors with troll and certain stances-- I can go on about rgrs soloing UW FOW I've seen, I know a good built R/E can dominate in PvE or PvP(with a good group). Good Luck With your R/E I agree with you about the potential of the Barrage skill combined with several other skills. I'm a noob at HoH side, but last night i was playing one HoH match in a ranger group with flame barrage + interrupt build, and i did make some nice dmg with it because opponents too tend to group in pretty tight groups
We won 3 of the first real people matches, with one flawless victory, until we encountered an IWAY team, and we were not well organized ...
After that i was in a couple of trapper teams, because *sigh* they were the only ones to accept ranger ... unfortunately we sucked badly, but it can be of couse be due to many reasons (im an experienced trapper from UW side though) but I would love to try more this barrage based build...
Anymore I had to change to a trapper rgr with ward melee/ward ele due to the only HOH groups out there are trappers occasionally I'd run into a rgr spike but far and few between, not many people in HOH want rgrs except trap or an occasions request for distract, I guess nobody sees the high potential dmg barrage, and other skills can do and can also tank 2 warriors with troll and certain stances-- I can go on about rgrs soloing UW FOW I've seen, I know a good built R/E can dominate in PvE or PvP(with a good group). Good Luck With your R/E I agree with you about the potential of the Barrage skill combined with several other skills. I'm a noob at HoH side, but last night i was playing one HoH match in a ranger group with flame barrage + interrupt build, and i did make some nice dmg with it because opponents too tend to group in pretty tight groups
We won 3 of the first real people matches, with one flawless victory, until we encountered an IWAY team, and we were not well organized ... After that i was in a couple of trapper teams, because *sigh* they were the only ones to accept ranger ... unfortunately we sucked badly, but it can be of couse be due to many reasons (im an experienced trapper from UW side though) but I would love to try more this barrage based build...
Miyamoto Orita
Hey Drake,
Looks like you and I have the same idea on the Ranger/Elementalist builds, but I have leaned more towards damage output and interrupts. And as in previous posts, I've up'd my expertise. I am only using this character for PvE right now, but will mess with it in PvP on my PvP account as soon as I get home, and will post the results on our website.
Looks like you and I have the same idea on the Ranger/Elementalist builds, but I have leaned more towards damage output and interrupts. And as in previous posts, I've up'd my expertise. I am only using this character for PvE right now, but will mess with it in PvP on my PvP account as soon as I get home, and will post the results on our website.
Wretchman Drake
havent seen ya on teamspeak hope ya get back soon