I have been having a discussion with my guildmates about green drop rates depending on your profession. It seems to me (and of course this can change via patch, already has once) that monks and ele's get more green drops than other professions. Anyone else notice a similar or different pattern?
Case in point: Was doing a 5 man FA team with 2 monks, a warr, and 1 ele and me as a min master. For the run, ONE MONK got a Razorstone and Ivor's staff, other monk got a Rago Flame Wand. The rest of us were shut out. we ported to GF and back in for normal SF run, and the lucky monk above got 2 more green drops through half of Sorrows (and of course had to leave, ghey). We finished all but 2 bosses 4 man and were shut out completely.
In my opinion, the drops (on characters I play) seem to go like this:
Monk >(or =) Ele > Warr > Nec
Poor nec hardly ever gets a green drop.
SECOND QUESTION
Have you noticed that taking a quest inside SF affects green drops? Most people do not want to take Tharn's or Ennis's quest thinking they reduce green drops. I can say that Orozar's quest does not reduce drops IMO, but of course this is a different animal. I do not have an opinion either way on this one, anyone else?
Green Drop Rates per profession
Funk ee Monk ee
Ultimata
I've noticed that some Accounts seem cursed.
Over 4 chars, I've noticed that I regularly get worse drops than the average drop in SF/UW/FoW.
Of course, that may just be my caffeine induced paranoia.
Over 4 chars, I've noticed that I regularly get worse drops than the average drop in SF/UW/FoW.
Of course, that may just be my caffeine induced paranoia.
EternalTempest
Something to consider, farming in the same area over time lowers your drop rate from what I've been hearing, so if you don't move around the zones there going to penalize you.
Also someone mentioned drops may be links to the damage you do to the elite (high damage > better chance for drop) but have not idea if this is accurate.
Also someone mentioned drops may be links to the damage you do to the elite (high damage > better chance for drop) but have not idea if this is accurate.
Mosch
I don't think professions influence drop rates. I have been playing around in that area since it got activated (using my E/Mo) and I have never found a single green item. All my guildmates did though.
I am pretty sure it's just pure luck.
I am pretty sure it's just pure luck.
kKagari
i just got a fleshweaver with 8man hench team, and cleared ALL of the traversable SF area without taking a quest, i happened to have 'alt-tabbed' while my henchies finished the boss off, and when i came back, fleshweaver! ill hafta test it more 
, but this is the second time ive been able to get 1 green with a 8man lazy farming team (by lazy i mean, i initiate battle and alt-tab away) im a monk.
, but this is the second time ive been able to get 1 green with a 8man lazy farming team (by lazy i mean, i initiate battle and alt-tab away) im a monk.
EternalTempest
I've found 2 total, I've taken 2-3 framing runs only, and 5-6 failed Final Assault attempts (with killing green bosses along the way) - Both drops were on the real FA attempts.
Carinae
I just wish I could get one of Drago's Bows....
Frank-Ultra
i saw 2 green drops on fa and it was a 5 man group i was the healing monk and i did not get any but last time i went in on orozar i got gordacs needle
really dont thin it matters what proffesion
really dont thin it matters what proffesion
Jigs
I agree, everytime i farm, it's always them monk and ele who gets the green loot. it happened 4x already to me where ele and monk could get 2 greens in one run. and in my every run monk and ele's always get at least 1 green, the rest nada. i have been farming for quite sometime and all i got are just 2 greens and are not even for my profession. i was glad for the other one bcoz it was a rago's wand w/c costs 100k in the market at that time.
Desbreko
Myself, I play either a healer monk or fire elementalist down in the furnace, and I suppose I get a fair number of greens for the amount of runs I do. My brother, however, plays a minion master necro down in the furnace. He's gotten just as many, if not more greens than me while probably only having gone on half as many runs. So, yeah...
Reiden Argrock
first off, I love you you completely ignore rangers and mesmers... thought that was funny, also, i'm pretty sure profession doesn't have anything to do with drop rates, dmg output or group contribution seems far more likely, and seeing how warriors, only take dmg on these farm runs, it's monks and eles who do most of the noticeable work, healing and killing... so, if that is the case, it would make sence for them to be getting mroe drops, but then again, I don't notice these abnormal drop rates so, whatever
Savio
I haven't seen any major trends in my runs, other than me not getting any greens after too many runs into SF consecutively. I could probably do a more detailed analysis of the data I have so far, but I'm too lazy right now.
Funk ee Monk ee
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Originally Posted by Reiden Argrock
first off, I love you you completely ignore rangers and mesmers...
If you re-read, I said "on the characters I play" ... if I do not play a mesmer or ranger (thanks again for 4 character slots ANet) I cannot give an account of drop rates for them, now can I?
About the henchies ... I have a guildmate that swears he gets more greens if he is in a group of henchies, dies during battle, and lets the hench finish off the killing. I have seen dead and AFK team members get green drops, rare drops, so I think group contribution and damage amount are not factored in at all. Of course these could have been the exceptions to the rule *shrug*
About the henchies ... I have a guildmate that swears he gets more greens if he is in a group of henchies, dies during battle, and lets the hench finish off the killing. I have seen dead and AFK team members get green drops, rare drops, so I think group contribution and damage amount are not factored in at all. Of course these could have been the exceptions to the rule *shrug*
kratic
i use my mo/r for farming there, and i went with henchies last night and got 2 greens in the same run. I also have good luck with getting dyes... During missions it seems warriors get more stuff though.
DarkWasp
Ive seens alot of monks have GREAT luck with all drops in my groups, monks do have an important jobs... But considering how many monks are jerks and quit, this should not be the case.
Also, alot of farmers are monks. Just because some of us dont farm and are not monks, we should not be cursed for that.
Also, alot of farmers are monks. Just because some of us dont farm and are not monks, we should not be cursed for that.
Grim Aragorn
to orginal poster.... i seem to see that same trend with green drops, eles usaully get the most it seems, or its just strange. ((not educational))another theory i PERSONALLY have is that the more xp you have the better drops u get i have 700k xp i seem to get more drops that people in my group that have like 100k-400k i ask them sometimes. AGAIN THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION DONT FLAME ME>
thanks you
thanks you
Funk ee Monk ee
Thanks for the reply Grim Aragorn. Interesting theory on experience, had not thought of that. I farm with my monk, have about 1.7 mil XP, Nec is last character I created and has least XP ... that may be why it seems to me the monk gets more drops than others.
Thanks for the input. Perhaps we will get this figured out just in time for a patch to change it all up, or Chapter 2 makes greens the FOLW (Flavor Of Last Week).
Thanks for the input. Perhaps we will get this figured out just in time for a patch to change it all up, or Chapter 2 makes greens the FOLW (Flavor Of Last Week).
Savio
Current stats for my recorded runs (albeit a bit low at 27 runs):
Green drops:
Total: 63 - 100.00%
Elementalists: 24 - 38.10%
Necromancers: 20 - 32.75%
Monks: 10 - 15.87%
Rangers: 2 - 3.17%
Mesmers: 0 - 0.00%
Warriors: 7 - 11.11%
Party Composition
Total party members: 202 - 100.00%
Elementalists: 70 - 34.65%
Necromancers: 42 - 20.79%
Monks: 42 - 20.79%
Rangers: 15 - 7.43%
Mesmers: 3 - 1.49%
Warriors: 32 - 15.84%
So what does it mean? First off, I'm usually the only Warrior, and since my farming buddies refuse to take anyone else, I end up doing way too many runs and nothing else. So my drops were nerfed a bit. I usually go with an Elementalist friend or two who probably farm too much also...hence the slightly lower percentages for drops for them.
Necros tend to come and go, plus most of the ones I team with go farm other places too. Same with the Monks...however, it should be noted that sometimes I opted for an E/Mo instead of a Mo/X.
Rangers and Mesmers didn't come along enough, even though I spam for non-tanks quite a bit. Their data can't be taken as conclusive, as the numbers are far too small for them. So you can pretty much chuck them out the window.
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Moral of the story? Don't farm in one place too often; otherwise drops are equal.
Green drops:
Total: 63 - 100.00%
Elementalists: 24 - 38.10%
Necromancers: 20 - 32.75%
Monks: 10 - 15.87%
Rangers: 2 - 3.17%
Mesmers: 0 - 0.00%
Warriors: 7 - 11.11%
Party Composition
Total party members: 202 - 100.00%
Elementalists: 70 - 34.65%
Necromancers: 42 - 20.79%
Monks: 42 - 20.79%
Rangers: 15 - 7.43%
Mesmers: 3 - 1.49%
Warriors: 32 - 15.84%
So what does it mean? First off, I'm usually the only Warrior, and since my farming buddies refuse to take anyone else, I end up doing way too many runs and nothing else. So my drops were nerfed a bit. I usually go with an Elementalist friend or two who probably farm too much also...hence the slightly lower percentages for drops for them.
Necros tend to come and go, plus most of the ones I team with go farm other places too. Same with the Monks...however, it should be noted that sometimes I opted for an E/Mo instead of a Mo/X.
Rangers and Mesmers didn't come along enough, even though I spam for non-tanks quite a bit. Their data can't be taken as conclusive, as the numbers are far too small for them. So you can pretty much chuck them out the window.
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Moral of the story? Don't farm in one place too often; otherwise drops are equal.
Pompeyfan
I usually go in SF with my Ele doing quests and drops are pitiful, I've had more with my Ranger (Ele 1.2m XP, Ran 645k XP btw) doing the same quests.
In thew UW/FoW I normally use my ele and go with the same group and the one who consistantly gets the best drops (ie most ecto/shards) is the mesmer.
In thew UW/FoW I normally use my ele and go with the same group and the one who consistantly gets the best drops (ie most ecto/shards) is the mesmer.
Hot Dead
The last time I was farming for greens, I seemed to be the only one getting drops, both green and non-green.
One more thing: greens arent worth that much (only for a new player), but to those that got to War Camp they arent really worth anything, since green items drop from practically every boss in GF and SF. The week after the SF update, someone started a thread about the value of GREEN items, and it said that they are worth 4k (at the most).
One more thing: greens arent worth that much (only for a new player), but to those that got to War Camp they arent really worth anything, since green items drop from practically every boss in GF and SF. The week after the SF update, someone started a thread about the value of GREEN items, and it said that they are worth 4k (at the most).
Umberto
I just went farming with a guid friend of mine, we are both warriors and took 4 henchies with us. we killed 4 or 5 bosses outside sorrows and decided to call it a day cause we both got a green item and i opened a chest to find a sup vigor in the armor i got. before this 4 trips with hardly any drops seen for anyboyd in the parties. It is just pure luck. Im now rich
Umberto
also green items have hugely gone up in value (well, the good ones) so no they arent worth 4k at most
Savio
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Originally Posted by Hot Dead
The last time I was farming for greens, I seemed to be the only one getting drops, both green and non-green.
One more thing: greens arent worth that much (only for a new player), but to those that got to War Camp they arent really worth anything, since green items drop from practically every boss in GF and SF. The week after the SF update, someone started a thread about the value of GREEN items, and it said that they are worth 4k (at the most). I think Greygon disagrees...
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=66631
One more thing: greens arent worth that much (only for a new player), but to those that got to War Camp they arent really worth anything, since green items drop from practically every boss in GF and SF. The week after the SF update, someone started a thread about the value of GREEN items, and it said that they are worth 4k (at the most). I think Greygon disagrees...
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=66631
MaglorD
What would u say if all the other team members died and you practically killed the boss and his minions solo and the boss drops something for another team member? And that other team member already got 2 other green drops.
I do agree something is fishy with the random generator.
I do agree something is fishy with the random generator.
Wilheim Eversmann
its an interesting finding~~i have met a monk who went with us and he got a grognar sword, Rago's flame staff and a Malinon's Malign hammer other than greens...he got a gold long bow too......omg.......and for the rest of the team, we were only awarded by many many stones.....lol
Savio
This is a thread about green drop distribution, not prices. If you'd like to continue the discussion Hot Dead, just tell me and I'll split the posts off from this one. Otherwise I'm going to stop commenting on it.
So, does anyone else have actual numbers or is speculation going to continue?
So, does anyone else have actual numbers or is speculation going to continue?
JayOfTeror
Hmmm. I must say that most of the green items that dropped for me where on my monk. I started playing my warrior and ranger and nothing green dropped for me. I mean I went about 2 weeks and couldnt put 2 and 2 together. lol So I went back on my monk and started getting green drops every day. So you can guess what character I play in Sorrow's. lol
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zemelett
I have to say that I think its strange but defenitaly not random. I have played my monk character with teams of 8, 5, 3, and 2 and have never gotten 1 green drop. I have seen warriors come out with 2 or 3 and eles the same. The only person that seems to have worse luck than i do is a guildy who plays a mesmer, I dont think he has even seen a gold item to this day...but i am sure there are lots of mesmers out there with good items
Vilaptca
My Necro never ever got green drops, until I grouped with a guild who needed a Necro to finish their Orozar party, after we did Orozar we went farming in SF, and after farming, we did quite a large chunk of UW.
By the end of the night, my Necro had made 250k. I got a Razorstone, and 4 other greens. A ton of golds. We opened a lot of chests. They always dropped the stuff from the chest that they didn't want. I ended up with a full inventory halfway through things, from picking up their stuff, so I salvaged the worst stuff. Came back with enough materials to pawn off that I could get three sets of 15k armor...which I did the next day.
They thought I was the luckiest Necro ever. That was the only day I ever got greens. I farm out there with 5-man teams sometimes, sometimes I go with henchies. Never gotten a green since that day.
I'm assuming that this guild frequently farmed SF, thus making most of the green drops go to me. I think 3 other greens dropped, one monk got 2, and the mesmer got the other.
It does seem that with henchmen, the first time you go to GF/SF, you will typically get the green of the first boss you kill. Its been that way for my girlfriend and my brother. Both killed Flint Fleshcleaver first, and so got some junk greens that nobody wants.
By the end of the night, my Necro had made 250k. I got a Razorstone, and 4 other greens. A ton of golds. We opened a lot of chests. They always dropped the stuff from the chest that they didn't want. I ended up with a full inventory halfway through things, from picking up their stuff, so I salvaged the worst stuff. Came back with enough materials to pawn off that I could get three sets of 15k armor...which I did the next day.
They thought I was the luckiest Necro ever. That was the only day I ever got greens. I farm out there with 5-man teams sometimes, sometimes I go with henchies. Never gotten a green since that day.
I'm assuming that this guild frequently farmed SF, thus making most of the green drops go to me. I think 3 other greens dropped, one monk got 2, and the mesmer got the other.
It does seem that with henchmen, the first time you go to GF/SF, you will typically get the green of the first boss you kill. Its been that way for my girlfriend and my brother. Both killed Flint Fleshcleaver first, and so got some junk greens that nobody wants.
stefan16
ive totally spent about 20 hours in sorrows, and i have only got a gorrels mesmer cane... sold for 1k.. so guys be lucky
Mahanaxar
Usually i see green drops going to the most moronic person in the group, no matter the class.
Must be a bug.
Must be a bug.
Wolfie
My Necromancer has never recieved a single green drop, although i've been to GF/SF around 10 times. All I ever get are stone summit badges...(which are, by the way, WORTHLESS!
) This Ele guildie of mine, however, has gotten about every green with doubles of most of them.
) This Ele guildie of mine, however, has gotten about every green with doubles of most of them.
MJ12trooper
kinda off subject drops in sorrows mostly droping for ur type of character it seems to me {no proof yet still working on it}
I have noticed {does not apply to green drops} that when me on my ele and my necro friend go to sf with henchies
he gets all the necro weapons and focus items I get all the earth,fire,ect staffs and elemental items
I have noticed {does not apply to green drops} that when me on my ele and my necro friend go to sf with henchies
he gets all the necro weapons and focus items I get all the earth,fire,ect staffs and elemental items
A NERD1989
my warrior gets jack all drops in UW ive been twice and ive only got shadowy remnamts and 2 white items and thats IT!!!!
im playing my monk now to get it to sorrows for this reason
im playing my monk now to get it to sorrows for this reason
darkMishkin
The only reason ArenaNet would reduce drops for a certain profession would be to reduce solo farming, but they probably wouldn't do this because its obviously unfair on people who go in friendly, balanced PUGs.
Interseting to read all of the other reasons, ie you go SF 30 times a day you won't get green items...
Interseting to read all of the other reasons, ie you go SF 30 times a day you won't get green items...
Savio
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Originally Posted by darkMishkin
Interseting to read all of the other reasons, ie you go SF 30 times a day you won't get green items...
If you go anywhere 30 times a day you won't get the best drops. You have to "rotate the crops" and switch farming areas every few runs. Otherwise your rares and greens just go down the hole.
Josh
I went to SF for the 1st time today, first group was great, 5 green drops, 3 to a W/Mo and 2 to a Mo/W, I'm lvl 20 E/Mo, and the best I got was some Scrolls.
Did it around 7-9 other times, everyone was getting greens except me, and I'm lvl 20 E/Mo((
Did it around 7-9 other times, everyone was getting greens except me, and I'm lvl 20 E/Mo
Hailfall
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Originally Posted by Vilaptca
That was the only day I ever got greens. I farm out there with 5-man teams sometimes, sometimes I go with henchies. Never gotten a green since that day.
Same here for me.. My Necro once got Drago's Flatbow but I never ever have the luck of getting a green item.
It seems that Necro hardly get any green drops then say Monks or Warriors. The parties I've been in, we had a warrior ending up with 5 greens and our monk with 2..
Seems a bit unfair
It seems that Necro hardly get any green drops then say Monks or Warriors. The parties I've been in, we had a warrior ending up with 5 greens and our monk with 2..
Seems a bit unfair
Hot Dead
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Originally Posted by Savio
Current stats for my recorded runs (albeit a bit low at 27 runs):
Green drops:
Total: 63 - 100.00%
Elementalists: 24 - 38.10%
Necromancers: 20 - 32.75%
Monks: 10 - 15.87%
Rangers: 2 - 3.17%
Mesmers: 0 - 0.00%
Warriors: 7 - 11.11%
Party Composition
Total party members: 202 - 100.00%
Elementalists: 70 - 34.65%
Necromancers: 42 - 20.79%
Monks: 42 - 20.79%
Rangers: 15 - 7.43%
Mesmers: 3 - 1.49%
Warriors: 32 - 15.84% do theses percentages count for henchies too? someone told me that hench (no matter wat prof) have a 7% chance of getting items<---is this true?
Green drops:
Total: 63 - 100.00%
Elementalists: 24 - 38.10%
Necromancers: 20 - 32.75%
Monks: 10 - 15.87%
Rangers: 2 - 3.17%
Mesmers: 0 - 0.00%
Warriors: 7 - 11.11%
Party Composition
Total party members: 202 - 100.00%
Elementalists: 70 - 34.65%
Necromancers: 42 - 20.79%
Monks: 42 - 20.79%
Rangers: 15 - 7.43%
Mesmers: 3 - 1.49%
Warriors: 32 - 15.84% do theses percentages count for henchies too? someone told me that hench (no matter wat prof) have a 7% chance of getting items<---is this true?