Pvp/Pve Chars For Pvp?

Raiin Maker

Raiin Maker

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

England

Blood On The Worlds Hands

W/

what would you choose to do pvp on?

i use a pvp char, because i have perfect items, runes and skills unlocked on it. i can see why people would use there pve char, as its good exp, but i guess they would be at a huge disadvantage, unless they we're very rich, or very lucky...

what type of char do you use for pvp? and why?

and if you dont pvp, what do you think you would use?

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

PvP ranger, for the perfect items of course. There's nothing that I need from PvE for my PvP guy, including unlocked skills thanks to the permanent faction boost.

Deviant

Deviant

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Austin, Tx

The Furies

Me/Mo

3 PvE characters comprising of all 6 professions for the purpose of a perfected PvP character. Ugh. It just takes a long time to get there. Agreed that a PvE character is probably a better choice until you have more unlocked unless you are using a pre-made.

NatalieD

NatalieD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deviant
Agreed that a PvE character is probably a better choice until you have more unlocked unless you are using a pre-made.
But... any skill you have on a PVE character, you can have on a PVP character...

It's PVP characters all the way for me. I'd much rather unlock stuff with faction than slog through more PVE. I do wish I could get some of the PVE characters' cosmetic options, though.

Ollj

Ollj

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

customized green items

Man With No Name

Man With No Name

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Manchester, UK

W/

It should be PvP characters -- but the PvE characters have a few distinct advantages with regards to equipment.

Things like the (Warrior) Lieutenants Helm can cut the length of a hex by 50%, if I'm not mistaken. That alone is quite an advantage -- and one that renders some hexes useless.

I had the brief pleasure to play with a Warrior from iQ who used:
-Lieutenants Helm
-Gladiators Chest, Leggings and Hands
-Knights Boots
-Tanzit's Defender -- Quick recovery from Blind, -2 dmg in Stance ( http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Tanzit%27s_Defender )
-1x Sword, 1x Vampiric Sword

Compared to my PvP character
-Weapon Helm +1
-Gladiators Chest, Leggings and Hands
-Knights Boots
-PvP Shield +45 Health whilst Hexed, -2 dmg whilst Hexed
-1x Sundering Axe, 1x Vampiric Axe

Immediately you can see that my PvP pre-made is flawed from the offset -- despite having all the perfect gear unlocked.
The PvE character loses the temporary health but recovers from Blind 50% faster, Hexes also last for a shorter duration.

Once they fix these small discrepancies it'll be PvP characters all the way.

Morganas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

There's a helm that can cut hex duration?! Ugh, +1 attribute point helms are trivial compared to that sort of bonus. That shield isn't too bad, you should bring condition removal with a team with warriors anyways, so its a non-issue, but that helm should definitely not be allowable in pvp, unless all pvp helms are given similarly powerful bonuses (which would be bad IMO).

Although... a 50% cut in hex duration would allow wastrels to own that warrior, but who bring wastrels anyways?

OrangeArrow

Flame Bait

Join Date: Mar 2005

Mass

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Man With No Name
It should be PvP characters -- but the PvE characters have a few distinct advantages with regards to equipment.

Things like the (Warrior) Lieutenants Helm can cut the length of a hex by 50%, if I'm not mistaken. That alone is quite an advantage -- and one that renders some hexes useless.

I had the brief pleasure to play with a Warrior from iQ who used:
-Lieutenants Helm
-Gladiators Chest, Leggings and Hands
-Knights Boots
-Tanzit's Defender -- Quick recovery from Blind, -2 dmg in Stance ( http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Tanzit%27s_Defender )
-1x Sword, 1x Vampiric Sword

Compared to my PvP character
-Weapon Helm +1
-Gladiators Chest, Leggings and Hands
-Knights Boots
-PvP Shield +45 Health whilst Hexed, -2 dmg whilst Hexed
-1x Sundering Axe, 1x Vampiric Axe

Immediately you can see that my PvP pre-made is flawed from the offset -- despite having all the perfect gear unlocked.
The PvE character loses the temporary health but recovers from Blind 50% faster, Hexes also last for a shorter duration.

Once they fix these small discrepancies it'll be PvP characters all the way.
whats to keep you from putting your shield in storage and using it on your pvp char

Man With No Name

Man With No Name

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Manchester, UK

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Morganas
There's a helm that can cut hex duration?! Ugh, +1 attribute point helms are trivial compared to that sort of bonus. That shield isn't too bad, you should bring condition removal with a team with warriors anyways, so its a non-issue, but that helm should definitely not be allowable in pvp, unless all pvp helms are given similarly powerful bonuses (which would be bad IMO).
It's the 60 +10 Vs Physical helm from the "Henge of Denravi" even with the loss of armour to the head -- it's really a non-issue.
The actual description reads "Shortens duration of Hexes cast on you"

EDIT Just checked it 50% less hexed time -- so that's 3 second Diversions, 9 second Imagined Burden's and so on -- you get the idea


The shield....I guess the real question is if you want 45 temporary hit points whilst [x condition] happens or whether you want Blind to end faster or some other benefit.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeArrow
whats to keep you from putting your shield in storage and using it on your pvp char
As for using PvE equipment on PvP characters -- it's sadly not possible -- it gets customised to the person who purchased it :'(

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

I have 3 PVE chars that make up all 6 professions (W/R, Mo/Me, and E/N) and one dedicated pvp char slot. I use that slot of any CA/GVG/Tombs as i can always remake it to whatever build suits my team the best, and i dont have to spend a huge wad of cash for perfect items and runes, just faction which i can earn back in less time than to farm 100k for a sup absorb or 70k for a sup vigor

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Man With No Name
As for using PvE equipment on PvP characters -- it's sadly not possible -- it gets customised to the person who purchased it :'(
Not shields, and not weapons unless you get them from the collector or have them customized yourself.

At least I've never heard of customized shields...

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Man With No Name
As for using PvE equipment on PvP characters -- it's sadly not possible -- it gets customised to the person who purchased it :'(
Items in PVE are only customized for that char when you take it to the weapons crafter and have it customized. I could go grab a yakslapper from my stash and use it on any pvp monk at any time if i chose too

Swordzkof

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

SoCal

Decadent Ones [DO]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Man With No Name
As for using PvE equipment on PvP characters -- it's sadly not possible -- it gets customised to the person who purchased it :'(
I think you have that backwards. I use PvE equipment on my PvP all the time. Simply place the item in storage. It's the PvP items that can't be swapped out to your PvE, since they are customized for the PvP character.

Man With No Name

Man With No Name

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Manchester, UK

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MistressYichi
Items in PVE are only customized for that char when you take it to the weapons crafter and have it customized. I could go grab a yakslapper from my stash and use it on any pvp monk at any time if i chose too
The weapons and the shield aren't really the problem -- I can make an Axe/Staff/Bow that's equal to or better than any PvE Axe -- it's the Helm, me wants :'(

And since it's a piece of armour from a collector/merchant -- it's a no no :S


EDIT: Your all correct -- I should've left less room for mis-interpretation. Weapons and Shields -- yes. Armour -- no

tlr1293

tlr1293

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Louisville, KY

[RoK] Riddle of Kings

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swordzkof
I think you have that backwards. I use PvE equipment on my PvP all the time. Simply place the item in storage. It's the PvP items that can't be swapped out to your PvE, since they are customized for the PvP character.

Pvp equipment in PvE - not happening, BUT...

My PvE Bow is customized for my PvE character and cannot be utilized by my PvP, even if put in storage. That extra 20% dmg in PvE helps enough to customize.

Yakslapper - why customize in PvE, not needed for damage?

romO

romO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Chicago

Idiot Savants [iQ]

Mo/

well i use a pve character when i need to play mesmer because he has all the best equipment, necessary runes, fissure armor. when i need to play any of the other 5 classes, i just make a pvp char.

Sofonisba

Sofonisba

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tucson, AZ

The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]

I have two accounts, 7 PvE chars, and 1 open slot. I use all of them for PvP.

I can see why one would use PvP custom, it's very flexible and you always have the "best" of what you unlocked. I also enjoy experimenting with elite skills, so I know what my capping priority can be on PvE.

The thing about my PvE characters, is that I "know" them very well already.

I would say I PvP 3/4 of the time with my PvE and 1/4 with my PvP slot.

Hanuman li Tosh

Hanuman li Tosh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

garden of the gods, CO

Over Powered

N/

PvP FTW no doubt.

Aracos79

Aracos79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Great Southwest

Shadowstorm Mercenaries

E/

I have a PvE W/R that I use when I want a quick IWAY or CA game, but other than that I use PvP characters. I have all skills unlocked and a decent number of runes and mods, so it works fine for me.

Shadowspawn X

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

I use my PvE/PvP charactor. There really is no such thing as a PvE only charactor. He's a Ranger and has all ranger Elites and skills and has three secondaries completely unlocked, all elites and skills for Ele/Me/Wa with a few Necro and Monk skills for certain builds. He faces some discrimination in tombs where some dont like combo charactor and threats him badly and has had the Dragons Lair move pulled on him more than once. Yet he perseveres and has slowly gained some fame. If you are weak minded man/woman and easy to get your feeling hurt I wouldn't recommend using a PvE/PvP charactor in tombs, especially if you stand out in Fissure armor, because you will get grief from pvp onlys, its the rudest area of the game and if you stand out you get it double. But if you are strong willed man/woman and have sufficent skillset unlocked I say go as PvE/PvP let the tombs be another adventure to conquer with your toon. In less than two months I will have all skills unlocked on that toon. At that time holding HoH and the getting the Tiger will be high priority. Technically he is a PvE/PvP charactor so he does both, thats why I made him.

Damien

Damien

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

A fairyland with roots in history

Me/N

Prefer Pve character as you got the whole game to get to know him

Hanuman li Tosh

Hanuman li Tosh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

garden of the gods, CO

Over Powered

N/

Quote:
There really is no such thing as a PvE only charactor.
unless you only play pve.

Raumoheru

Raumoheru

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

i use my pve monk and my pve warrior for pvp because i have all the items i need for them and it is much easier to swap them around the keep remaking.

@ Deviant

lol, i am on my 15th pve char and you say 3 chars take too long? yea i have no life...

Tony Blair

Tony Blair

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

VA

PvE Monk for Denravi sword.

PvP for the rest.

RoF

RoF

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

My hammer is stained with the blood of countless assassins.

We Eat Pancakes [Yumy]

W/

PvE characters are way more fun to play in the PvP areas if only because they are more personalized. And I don't have to make a new character everytime I want to change my build.

There's also the satisfaction of playing a character that you have built from scratch.

Raiin Maker

Raiin Maker

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

England

Blood On The Worlds Hands

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by RoF
PvE characters are way more fun to play in the PvP areas if only because they are more personalized. And I don't have to make a new character everytime I want to change my build.

There's also the satisfaction of playing a character that you have built from scratch.
yea i guess there is... and its good exp for pve chars... but i still prefer pvp.. as whats the point in faction if you dont use pvp chars?

zidane888

zidane888

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Seattle WA

[Oops]

W/R

If you are a hardcore tomb/gvg player (I mean 5+ hours a day) there is simply no getting arround using a premade pvp char. Having to switch hilts, grips, runes, staves, armors depending on the build you are running (and we usually run 3-5 different builds daily) would simply be impossible to affectively incoorporate with a p v e character. And i say this sadly as i would love to show off my fully fissured warrior and monk

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I still think it would be nice to use a pvp char. in pve.That is when a pve char. reaches level20.