Secondary? Why?

Judas Hawksriff

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

UK

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04 May 2005 at 11:27 - 1
Quick question,

Are there any bonuses for not choosing a secondary class?

In the past most RPG games reward the player by being loyal to one profession, i.e, not having to split exp, level up quicker, etc

I was just wondering if anything along the same lines applied to GW? obviously you don't have to split your skill points, but is that it????

Spooky

Spooky

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Join Date: Dec 2004

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KEA

E/Mo

04 May 2005 at 11:29 - 2
There is no advantage to single classing, only the disadvantage of being significantly less flexible. If you don't want to use a second profession, you don't have to allocate any points to it, but it doesn't hurt to have it - if for nothing else, then take Monk for a real Resurrect spell, none of this Res Signet business.

Judas Hawksriff

Frost Gate Guardian

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04 May 2005 at 11:35 - 3
Blimey fast response, cheers for that, I'm a warrior atm toying with which secondary profession, if any, to go with. I was just wondering if it came down to a Warrior Vs Warrior/Ranger fight - purely on warrior skills, wether the single class would be better off, even if the other player didn't spend any skill points on the ranger?

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

04 May 2005 at 11:51 - 4
All classes are balanced. It doesn't matter what you choose.

Get a secondary. Just GET one. Think of what your role in the group will be and build a character around that. I am a healing monk/support unit. So, I got Monk/Mesmser. I can heal my group plus cast anti-buff, energy drain type spells.

There is no down side to taking a secondary. You only get advantages. Skills and versatility is the name of the game.

Zintinix Shoupthalus

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

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04 May 2005 at 11:53 - 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Judas Hawksriff
Blimey fast response, cheers for that, I'm a warrior atm toying with which secondary profession, if any, to go with. I was just wondering if it came down to a Warrior Vs Warrior/Ranger fight - purely on warrior skills, wether the single class would be better off, even if the other player didn't spend any skill points on the ranger?
On pure warrior skills I'd say ranger woudl win unless he coudln't use the pet he gets.

Auntie I

Wilds Pathfinder

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04 May 2005 at 11:58 - 6
Just for your consideration: The game will not let you enter the Academy without a 2nd profession.
I have found that there is usually at least one skill in another profession that I want. You will see a lot of W/Mo just for the 1 or 2 healing spells that are available from the monk list.

Judas Hawksriff

Frost Gate Guardian

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04 May 2005 at 12:05 - 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Auntie I
Just for your consideration: The game will not let you enter the Academy without a 2nd profession.
I have found that there is usually at least one skill in another profession that I want. You will see a lot of W/Mo just for the 1 or 2 healing spells that are available from the monk list.
No fair, and there was me thinkin' I had free will ?!?!

confessor24

confessor24

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Philadelphia, PA

04 May 2005 at 12:14 - 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Auntie I
Just for your consideration: The game will not let you enter the Academy without a 2nd profession.
This is kind of a bummer if you ask me. Granted, I'm sure that almost everyone will go with two professions, but what of the people who like to play pure classes or perhaps just want more of a challenge? (Most Warriors will probably go with Monk b/c of the healing, but it would be a much bigger challenge to play a straight up Warrior, which traditionally has no healing abilties at all) It's kind of unfair to force players into choosing two.

Judas Hawksriff

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04 May 2005 at 13:14 - 9
Exactly, confessor24, spot on, as well as being a pure single class, it does mean the hard-core players can opt of another level of difficulty, your right, there should be at least the option so the player can choose whether they want another class or not, why don't we just make all the players hermaphrodites while we're at it, they're already all human!

Auntie I

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04 May 2005 at 13:16 - 10
Just because you have to have another class doesn't mean you have to use any of their skills or put any of your attribute points into the subclass attributes. You can play a "pure" class.

Romac

Romac

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Join Date: Apr 2005

04 May 2005 at 13:18 - 11
silly silly silly

if you want to be a 'pure' warrior just take any second profession, then load your skillbar with just warrior skills.

why do people have to invent issues and problems???

Jesso

Academy Page

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04 May 2005 at 13:25 - 12
Because there are people out there who are not "happy" unless they are upset. Make sense ?

Auntie I

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04 May 2005 at 13:26 - 13
As much as any other expanation I guess.

Judas Hawksriff

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04 May 2005 at 13:29 - 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Auntie I
Just because you have to have another class doesn't mean you have to use any of their skills or put any of your attribute points into the subclass attributes. You can play a "pure" class.
Yeah, but you'd know you wern't really "pure"

Auntie I

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04 May 2005 at 13:33 - 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Judas Hawksriff
Yeah, but you'd know you we're really "pure"
Huh! Is there a word or three missing from this sentence? It doesn't make any sense.

Judas Hawksriff

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04 May 2005 at 13:35 - 16
Sorry typo, meant to say "wern't"

Auntie I

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04 May 2005 at 13:36 - 17
Ahhhh! Now it makes sense.

funbun

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Mo/

04 May 2005 at 13:45 - 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by confessor24
This is kind of a bummer if you ask me. Granted, I'm sure that almost everyone will go with two professions, but what of the people who like to play pure classes or perhaps just want more of a challenge? (Most Warriors will probably go with Monk b/c of the healing, but it would be a much bigger challenge to play a straight up Warrior, which traditionally has no healing abilties at all) It's kind of unfair to force players into choosing two.

Then don't use those spells. You are not obligated to you the secondary spell, nor do you have to give attribute point to your secondary. You hero can still be a All warrior is you want. Just dont' give and attribute point or use any secondary powers.

YOU DONT LOSE ANYTHING BY TAKING A SECONDARY

mqstout

Wilds Pathfinder

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04 May 2005 at 13:46 - 19
It wasn't forced in the betas. I think they started to force it because a lot of people were complaining they'd get to post-searing with one job and be stuck that way. I'd be happy with the requirement of a second profession were dropped -- let the whiners whine if they go searing and can't go back to get a second because they ignore the bright red text that tells them it's a one-way trip. Punishment.

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

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Mo/

04 May 2005 at 13:48 - 20
Either way someone isn't gonna be happy. Screw it, leave it. They're gonn piss off somone anyway

Auntie I

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04 May 2005 at 13:49 - 21
Either way someone is whining!

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

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04 May 2005 at 13:52 - 22
go back to all the posts about how the warning it was a one way trip and they had to make xxxx sure people got their 2nd profession before they went through.

much more strident than the posters who want to be *pure*

Judas Hawksriff

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04 May 2005 at 13:55 - 23
Not whining, questioning, I don't mind picking a 2nd profession, I started this thread wanting to know if there we're any benefits to not picking a 2nd, but have since found out you HAVE to have a 2nd one, I just under the impression to start with that there was some choice in the matter

Loviatar

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Join Date: Feb 2005

04 May 2005 at 13:58 - 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Judas Hawksriff
I just under the impression to start with that there was some choice in the matter
you had a choice about it before retail and the whineing was ........*very loud*...and very strident ....and demanding correction

Auntie I

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04 May 2005 at 14:03 - 25
And I think we should stop now before we get into any fist fights.

Judas Hawksriff

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04 May 2005 at 14:06 - 26
Lets settle this the old fashioned way....
/paper

Auntie I

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04 May 2005 at 14:06 - 27
/scissors

Judas Hawksriff

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04 May 2005 at 14:08 - 28
does "/scissors" actually work in game????

Auntie I

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04 May 2005 at 14:09 - 29
I don't know, I haven't tried it. I see the emotes for Rock/Paper/Scissors so it must.

mqstout

Wilds Pathfinder

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Pittsburgh

04 May 2005 at 14:10 - 30
/spock

Judas Hawksriff

Frost Gate Guardian

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04 May 2005 at 14:10 - 31
/paper
does the paper scissors stone emote

IceD'Bear

IceD'Bear

Krytan Explorer

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Awoken Myth [MYTH]

Mo/

04 May 2005 at 14:21 - 32
/TIGER HAND! RAWR!!!!! RAWRR! rar. Hahaaa, hi. Tiger Hand. Come on! You Know! ... You don't know Tiger Hand?
Tiger Hand beats paper. Like totally beats paper. Always

Auntie I

Wilds Pathfinder

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04 May 2005 at 14:22 - 33

Pevil Lihatuh

Pevil Lihatuh

Jungle Guide

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04 May 2005 at 15:55 - 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by Judas Hawksriff
/paper
does the paper scissors stone emote
that makes you come up with paper.
you can also do /rock or /scissors so you can actually have a proper game with someone... as long as they start their emote before you have shown what you are doing...