A Little Bit on Cleave

Why Elite status?

Comparisons
A) Penetrating Blow vs Cleave
The only difference is 1 adrenaline and
-Cleave has slightly more damage
-Penetrating Blow has armor penetration
Is 1 strike of adrenaline really that good to merit elite status?

B) Eviscerate vs Cleave
For those who have not read the article by ensign, I suggest you do
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=49874

Eviscerate
-Built In Dismember (7 adrenaline)
-More damage then cleave
Lets do some math. Since Cleave costs 4 adrenaline, we'll subtract that from the 7 that Eviscerate costs.
Then what are we left w/? 3 adrenaline for the equivalent of dismember and the original 4 going for more damage then cleave.
To do the same thing w/ cleave, you would need 4 + 7 Adrenline and 2 skill slots to do less damage for the same conditions

I call for an another buff to cleave.

Errmm.....I don't know why a second thread got started. I was at school networks, and they were having a few problems, but still......., Delete the second one if you will please.