Is there a GW miss manners?

I have recently started my first monk character, a role where you render help to others. Some might expect that upon receiving help one would offer thanks in return.....this is not the case usually however. I do derive my own enjoyment from doing a good job as a monk, keeping everyone alive (even foolish ones who prolly deserve to die anyway) If I do get a compliment (which I did get last night ) that just makes it better.
I've only just arrived at Nolani so I know the tough stuff, atttudes and rudness will only increase - I just hope the "job satisfaction" alone is enough to see me through ......along with an occasional thank you.

i think monks dont need a thanl you, any more then any other character. warrior hits stuff a elementalist fried stuff a ranger shoots stuff.. they all do what they are made to do, as a monk heals stuff. so i never really think the monk, but the whole group :P

Good point! I also thank the group as a whole or say "good job" or some other such after a good mision.

^umm^ don't the stickies tell you not to post in 1337 speak?

anyway

i know of a warrior who was the only tank in an FoW group. That tank got much in the way of great tanking, you are doing a good job and keep it up! now THAT is rare. i don't see why monks should be thanked when warriors, mesmers, rangers or necromancers are left out. (never heard of anyone say wow great necromancing!). Monks are supposed to monk, warriors are supposed to warrior(ify)

if they do a really good job then say so (as i know many do). if, however, the warrior is tanking well then you should also thank them. i have been in groups where an extraordinarily good aggro manageing warrior got us through.

any class can do a good job, why should monks be singled out for praise?

Yes, I am seeing the light. Every class has a role and all can be good at what they do and are deserving of praise when they do it right. It just seems that in PvE a Tank a nuker or other non-monk profession deals with a predictable AI that can be counted on, to some extent, to act in a certain predictable way. (Not saying at all that this makes their job easy) Now the monk has to deal with the human players who cannot always be counted on to act rationally and when you still manage to keep the group upright dispite some silly tactics by your group......well it seems you have gone beyond the normal requirements and mabe a small thank you would be in order. However, people who use silly tactics and act irationally probably don't know they are acting out of the norm and thus will not realize that someone else has been busting their ass to keep everyone among the living.
Now just to let you know..... I still don't "expect" thanks but it makes me feel good if someone notices a great effort when they see it. Just as a great tank would appreciate the props. I'm not trying to set the monk on a pedastal or anything like that. He's just another member of the team. I just made my first monk and I'm kinda caught up in the whole save the world thing so forgive my enthusiasm........I'm sure in a couple of days I'll be bitter and hostile but for now - let me enjoy the cloud I'm on.

if you dont say GG at the end of a game where there was no cheating you arent an online gamer youre a noob. unfortunately, if noobs could fly GW would be LAX.

Actually you are treating it as such since you are expecting something back in return for your deeds. Honestly, I'm a guy who probably says thank you too much, but sometimes the thought never arises to say it. That doesn't mean they didn't appreciate the gesture. The OP should be happy with himself that he helped out some comrades. No thank you may have been just a oversight, but no sense getting in a tizzy about it.

Sorry you don't agree and I feel bad for people who expect to get a thank you everytime they do something for someone because it ain't gonna happen everytime. Yes people should say thank you, does that mean we all should stop doing nice things when they don't?

Heck maybe the Fighter wanted a thank you for tanking too. Hrmm maybe we should be on the safe side and do a global 'thank you' just in case we acidentally miss someone.

..and cmon I'd say playing a game isn't a sacrifice, grow up.

oh and thank you for reading

Like I said, for me it's not just playing missions with a character, at the end of a mission if we do a good job, I'll state so before the party breaks up. If a monk is doing an exceptional job, I might note it during the mission, but I won't go out of my way of thanking anyone for doing their part. I will always say "ty" for a rez if I happen to die, but that's just good form.

But when people provide a service for a group of people - for free - they should get some sort of acknowledgement back for their work. To not do so is just lame and displays poor manners, a reflection of the "me" mentality so prevalent in today's society. To state "you shouldn't expect a thank you" is a losers excuse for not having the common courtesy to be polite. I'm not getting upset that I don't get a thank you, I get upset that our society as a whole has come up with excuses NOT be bothered with even the most simple, basic, etiquette.

And to top it off, people expect to not only get everything for free without thanks, they have no qualms for asking for MORE even after getting their service for free to begin with - and still not saying thanks.

Gimme gimme gimme. I got mine get yours. So sad.

Nobody deserves any thanks for playing guild wars and fufilling their role. I'm a ranger and never got any thanks regardless of what I did on any mission/quest and I've done plenty. I've noticed that most people have a tilted perception of what is happening on the battlefield anyway. "Everyone one is the star of their own movie" when playing. I notice that warriors take alot of credit for things they arn't responsible for at all. And n00bs hollaring "good nukes",and "good healing" when a mesmer or ranger is responsible for the victory. Especially people who don't do 8v8 pvp or FoW often. They really only see themselves and maybe a small corner of the battlefield if you are lucky. so instead of listening to the misplaced attaboys I personally prefer for everyone to STFU and just do the quest. Of course gg is always in good taste at the end of the run.


Congrats, You Go Girl!

I didn't read everything...

basically don't stress over it. Some people are pricks and some are not. Simple like that.

I'm one of those who would stick with a group no matter what but lately I realize my time is precious so if I have absolutely no reason for being a group and they are being total jerks or whatever, I will warn them. If they continue to act so, I just leave.

That bloodstone fen mission, for instance, I clearly stated again and again that I want to do the bonus as well as the mission. In the mission we passed the fork in the path to take for the bonus and I'm like what the heck. They're like oh we don't need to do that, blah blah, you're lvl 20, u don't need exp, blah blah blah. A elementalist and I wound up splitting up and did the bonus on our own before they finished the mission.

I run people for free to Droknars and its rather fun when they say things like "i want to be like you when i grow up!"

rage quit meter: [-----------------------]---||

Once again..wow

Bottom line is- Yes acknowledgment of good deeds are nice, but if you expect to get a 'thank you' don't hold your breath. If you get upset over this and have the attitude that it's somehow societies fault, you're just going to make yourself angry and miserable. If that's the way you wanna go through life, go for it.

Oh and thinking you should get a 'thank you' not charging being in a group in GW is just plain silly.

Thanks for reading (I wouldn't want to cause anyone any grief)

agreed to expect thanks is futile, but like i said if you doont even say GG thats just plain rude.

I like a GG as well, it is good ediquette. But I'm not going to take it personally if someone chooses not to... or perhaps doesn't know what GG is.

From my times playin' MMOs, I've found people for the most part to be really cool. Some folks just are not very vocal, or can't understand english because they are ina different country.

You all seem to forget quite a lot of the ppl who play this game, aren't all that mature (that includes some ppl over 18 as well), and so they probably haven't learnt their lessons in manners.

To the original poster, I would have simply made an excuse and quit the mission in that situation, there's little reason to play the mission if you aren't getting any enjoyment from it, which seems to be the case from what you are saying. But I wouldn't put myself in that situation to start with, I find henchmen much more reliable in terms of ability and not quitting. If you have to abort the mission halfway you don't end up being rude to anyone!

yeah, don't forget half the people you are playing with are idiot teens that think the word "noob" is funny, and doing stupid things is funny. Like "do it this way. whattf? noob!" *drop*.

Try getting your PvE groups on TS/Vent - that'll make your group tighter, and help you weed out idiots.

One guy was trying to form a party for one of the Titan quests. Since I was one of the rare monks standing around he PMed me about helping them out. I didn't need the quest, but accepted the invite as my "good deed for the day." Well, after 5 minutes looking for other members he decides, all of a sudden, that he wants to do something else. So he just quits without warning leaving me there with a couple of other people. I PMed him asking what happened ... All he said was, "sry. I just changed my mind." I was doing this guy a favor - at least he could have PMed me instead of just quitting like that.

Life is easier if you realize that people are stupid and rude. It also makes your day when you encounter a nice person.

Even on a regular day basis I get irritated to no end by random people I come across.

Example of idiocy:
I attend high school, and I was using the microwave in the cafeteria and there was a bit of a line behind me. Another student came by and stood pretty much beside me, and it was obvious he was about to cut the line when I was done. So I move between him and the microwave, of course.
I hadn't set the timer for long enough, so when I felt my food after the timer ended I decided to quickly put it in for another 30 seconds, and the little brat asks "can I put my pizza pop in with that?"
I look at him for a moment "No!"
While my food is finishing the run I look at him again.
"Dude, are you better than everyone else in line? Go to the back!"
"Well, I have somewhere to be.."
"And what, nobody else in this line does? I doubt you talked to any of them before you planted your ass in front of them all, therefore you do not know. Go to the back of the line!"
Abashed and embarrased, he turns and sulks his way to the back of the line, and all the people smile at me for standing up for fairness.

Moral of the story: tell the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO-sticks off and fight for fairness with all your power, society will think better of you.

Mate, you're a Ranger. Us Rangers get little to no thanks at all.
"Hi, I'm a Ranger"
"Hi, I don't like you, I don't need you, I'm not going to thank you for doing a good job, but I feel sorry for you so you can come"
*After an exceptional job*
"Damn Ranger, did you do anything in that whole mish?"
- Excerpt from "Life of a Ranger: No Thanks" by Jakerius

Really? I thought the bottom line was
Gimme gimme gimme. I got mine get yours. So sad.

To the OP: As Lasareth said (oddly I find myself agreeing with a lot of things he says) the reward is in the deed itself, and knowing you did a good job. Don't expect thanks from a lot of people, it's a MMORPG. Most players aren't old enough to know what "Thank You" means.