IWAY build help :(

Sharpe_116

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Adventurers Society

Mo/W

Does anybody know the iway build IN DETAIL. skills and attribute allocation. if u wouldent min dlisting or pming i would be very very greatfull thank u

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

ok heres how it goes:

w/r x 8. skills:
troll unguent
charm animal
otyughs cry
power attack (the bow one)
power attack (the melee one)
rebirth
mending

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

hey

usually iway warriors carry

Executioners Strike
Distrupting Chop
Eviscerate
Sprint
Warriors Cunning
IWAY

Res Signet + Charm Animal

13 strength
16 Axe

if they ask to to snag a spirit, pull one from Axe Mastery


smurfhunter is currently experiencing PMS. dont mind him/her

peace :P

Divine Elemental

Divine Elemental

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Near Your House

I Used To Own [ IUTO ]

Boofhead

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Black Rose Gaming

usually there is a necro casting order of pain and order of the vampire as well as some corpse exploitation skills, sometimes they also have some ele spells for disrupting healing balls (meteor shower, maelstrom, etc), and sometimes there's a trapper for the same reason.

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

whats PMS? post-maternal stress?

btw... LOL humility just posted a completely blank post... talk about humility...

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by smurfhunter
whats PMS? post-maternal stress?

btw... LOL humility just posted a completely blank post... talk about humility... pms = person mo(n)cking someone

^^

j/king smurfie

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

i was starting to think it stood for super gay mesmer...

Divine Elemental

Divine Elemental

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Near Your House

I Used To Own [ IUTO ]

Quote:
Originally Posted by smurfhunter
i was starting to think it stood for super gay mesmer... My Post Says It All.
Pls Do Look At The Picture

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

oh, fing university lab comp has the picture filter

man i should totaly not be on this forum now. *looks over shoulder*

must.. procrastinate... more...

glenn_rolfe

glenn_rolfe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

at least give the guy a serious answer to his question.

IWAY consists of 8 Me/W with;

Illusionary Weaponary (E)
Frenzy
For Great Justice
Shield's Up
I will survive
For great Justice
Fear Me
Healing Signet

Oh what a killer build

glenn_rolfe

glenn_rolfe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Oops, replace one For Great Justice with another shout that isn't I Will Avenge You

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by glenn_rolfe
at least give the guy a serious answer to his question.

IWAY consists of 8 Me/W with;

Illusionary Weaponary (E)
Frenzy
For Great Justice
Shield's Up
I will survive
For great Justice
Fear Me
Healing Signet

Oh what a killer build thanks for telling him the real build

Guillaume De Sonoma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

aFk

Me/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by glenn_rolfe
at least give the guy a serious answer to his question.

IWAY consists of 8 Me/W with;

Illusionary Weaponary (E)
Frenzy
For Great Justice
Shield's Up
I will survive
For great Justice
Fear Me
Healing Signet

Oh what a killer build Don't listen to him replace for great justice with watch yourself

glenn_rolfe

glenn_rolfe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

I was using the mod-iway build where you arcan echo your "For Great Justice"

darkMishkin

darkMishkin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Mo/

I hide at the side of the map waiting for my team to die then I arcane echo rebirth and res all my team while the other team is spamming gg and then they'r like wtf"?! cause all my team is alive again and they are all dead, the end.

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

in detail,

effective iways usually carry these.

eviscerate
executioners strike
warriors cunning

and their skills of their choice

..

i usually run with 4 iways, 2 necros, 1 trapper.

4 iway warriors bring predatory season, winnowing, revive animals, eoe. natures renewal is optional.

i dont get nosey on what my warrior team mates bring. i dont impose a specific build on them. i trust my team mates. we dont use ts and they KNOW what they are doing.

iway+traps is not a "there a skill, i will counter that skill" thing. its a build that focuses on terrain/positioning, pure offense and stuff.

my first post was my guess, coz i assumed that you were asking about the classic iway (8wars-6wars+2necro)

i freelanced as an iway warrior once or 4 times and those skills posted in my first one, i brought.



IWAY is fun coz there are no noobish "Spike in 3-2-1. change targets. Spike in 3-2-1" thingies.

Rusting you.

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

my personal favorite iway is the one where one of the warriors acts as a monk by using warriors endurance {E} and mending.

Kabale

Kabale

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

UK

Portrayors of Valour [pV]

This one's quite fun. 3 regular IWAY w/rs, 2 trappers, 1 heal monk, 1 hybrid prot/heal, and 1 necro with wells and rigor etc...

Emr3

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

Keke

W/Mo

In theory, IWAY build is basically 5 Damage Dealers that are either W/R or R/W that have the Charm Pet and I Will Avenge You skill in their skill bar. The idea is, when 5 pets die, you can use I Will Avenge You which will give you +6 Health Regeneration and attack speed +33% for 50 seconds. Since the recharge on IWAY skill is 45 seconds, it becomes spammable with 5 dead pets.

You might get +1 Fame per Tombs run using this build but don't hope for any more than that. Most groups trying to make it to Hall of Heroes are well aware of IWAY builds and have very effective ways of destroying them.

Yukito Kunisaki

Yukito Kunisaki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

Chicago, IL

W/N

IWAY can be quite powerful if the other 3 non warriors can counter what kills warriors easily.

Enemy buffs, hexes, conditions.

I've never joined an IWAY group cause I'm w/n with better things to do... [lol] but I can imagine W/R IWAY with brains looking something like this.

12+1+3 Axe
7+1 Tactics
8+1 Strength [or all to strength if you don't use the spirit]
8 Wilderness Survival

Swift Chop
Eviscerate {E}
Exe. Strike
Fear Me!
I Will Avenge You!
Sprint
Charm Animal
Res Signet / Frozen Soil / Antidote Signet

Since there are 5 warriors, 3-4 of them can use res sig while the other ONEs use either Frozen Soil or MAYBE ant. sig if they're uncertain of their monk.

The last 3 should be either 2 monks for heal and prot respectively and a necro for well use [lots of bodies = lots of wells, maybe even minion master]

The prot monk should easily be able to keep hexes/conditions off of the team using the right skills whereas the heal monk can work in conjunction with a Bloody Death necro who's using a combination of Well of Suffering, Profane, Blood, and Power. Quite freakishly efficient really if you intend to hold the dias.

Problem? If the enemy team runs FAARR away from the dead pets pileup, IWAY won't feed you well if at all.

But 5 warriors shouting Fear me every four seconds is 3x5 energy every four seconds.

I'd LOVE to see an enemy team try to recover from 15e./4s. degen. [that's about 12 pips of energy degen... LOL!!!]

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

Our current IWAY mod: 4 IWAY W/R, 1 R/Me Trapper, 1 Tainted/Maelstrom N/E, 1 Death Nova/Prot N/Mo, 1 Orders/Heal N/Mo. Very effective.

glenn_rolfe

glenn_rolfe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Putting prot skills in IWAY. That's sick! A twisted attempt at trying to build an alter holding IWAY.
You should be ashamed. Now go home to mommy for a spanking little boy

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

I am not a little boy. I am a grown woman who happens to also be a mother. And it is a very effective twist on IWAY and a lot more fun to play than straight up IWAY. We have always used the orders necro as a heal party spammer. Now we simply replaced our 2nd trapper with the Necro prot and 9/10 it's gg for the noobs we just slaughtered. And btw, I spammed heal party right through an edge bomb last night. As soon as we saw they had eoe down, I backed up and started the spamming. Not one of my team died. When the smoke cleared, the timer read 0:33 and they were all dead and we weren't.

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

lets just say that iway takes the fun away from the game... definetly for me and im sure its true for a bunch of others...

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

lets just say that iway takes the fun away from the game... definetly for me and im sure its true for a bunch of others...

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Bah, Iway is easy to beat, only the really modified versions have andy chance of success now, and generally because they're closer to a balanced build. I don't think it takes any fun out of the game, killing the opposing team in about a minute is always good, and pure IWAY or Order IWAY are easy to demolish.

Kabale

Kabale

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

UK

Portrayors of Valour [pV]

...But you still joined our IWAY team :P


Ohhh you're sooo not gonna hear the end of this...

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

rooofl. our iway turned trapper turned vim turned disaster group was awesome

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

I don't think IWAY takes the fun away. I love playing it, and I love going against it. It's easily beaten if you know wtf you're doing. It's easy winning with IWAY when Tombs is full of noob random PUGs. So many whine when they lose to IWAY, but honestly if you lost to an IWAY or IWAY mod, you deserved it.

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by dansamy
I don't think IWAY takes the fun away. I love playing it, and I love going against it. It's easily beaten if you know wtf you're doing. It's easy winning with IWAY when Tombs is full of noob random PUGs. So many whine when they lose to IWAY, but honestly if you lost to an IWAY or IWAY mod, you deserved it. Well, the ease of assembly is the annoying bit for IWAY. It's not that hard to plan a build that can withstand it, it's the fact that you MUST plan a build to withstand it that is the irritant. Because it is easy to assemble it is popular, because it is popular otherwise solid builds that have a weakness against IWAY have to be altered to deal with IWAY; every build has weaknesses, and you simply cannot afford to have IWAY as one of yours, even vs a noob team.

I don't have any complaints about IWAY the skill, or IWAY the build, save for the wretched abundance of them, and that because it can work even for complete idiots you are under threat of it unless you pack skills to deal with it. An unskilled air-spike group is amusing, but hardly deadly - un unskilled IWAY can still kill you as they function very independently compared to the coordination of an airspike (or other spike)

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by smurfhunter
ok heres how it goes:

w/r x 8. skills:
troll unguent
charm animal
otyughs cry
power attack (the bow one)
power attack (the melee one)
rebirth
mending haha. mending ftw!

Sum Gai

Sum Gai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Toronto

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by smurfhunter
ok heres how it goes:

w/r x 8. skills:
troll unguent
charm animal
otyughs cry
power attack (the bow one)
power attack (the melee one)
rebirth
mending noob, no Cap sig

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sum Gai
noob, no Cap sig well i wouldnt exactly give out the best build for free, would i?

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Epinephrine
Well, the ease of assembly is the annoying bit for IWAY. It's not that hard to plan a build that can withstand it, it's the fact that you MUST plan a build to withstand it that is the irritant. Because it is easy to assemble it is popular, because it is popular otherwise solid builds that have a weakness against IWAY have to be altered to deal with IWAY; every build has weaknesses, and you simply cannot afford to have IWAY as one of yours, even vs a noob team.

I don't have any complaints about IWAY the skill, or IWAY the build, save for the wretched abundance of them, and that because it can work even for complete idiots you are under threat of it unless you pack skills to deal with it. An unskilled air-spike group is amusing, but hardly deadly - un unskilled IWAY can still kill you as they function very independently compared to the coordination of an airspike (or other spike)
coordination is a skill, true. but if your team falls down coz some team rocked your coordination, thats not skill.


skill also is not cracking under extreme pressure or chaos.

iway = 8 independent individuals working as a team. thats what best about it.

ranger/ele/whatever spike = 8 individuals who are dependent on a caller/backup caller.

any IWAY (skilled or unskilled) can be beaten by people who know what theyr e doing. thats a fact.

Lucifer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Belgium

Project Zenora (zEn)

N/

Dude, iway can be used by 5 year old kids, its ******** annoying to face this noob build every tombs run.
Yes we lost to it sometimes, but its not like i care.
Since its 99% of the time that we win against it.
Modded iway, normal iway its all the same kind of crap.
Get a real build and then start talking shit when u beat a team,
ALL U IWAY **** DONT DESERVE YOUR FAME

Kabale

Kabale

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

UK

Portrayors of Valour [pV]

Quote:
Dude, iway can be used by 5 year old kids, its ******** annoying to face this noob build every tombs run.
Yes we lost to it sometimes, but its not like i care.
Quote:
ALL U IWAY **** DONT DESERVE YOUR FAME Yeah you REALLY don't care, do you..

Sharpe_116

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Adventurers Society

Mo/W

I knew this build a long time ago, but i didnt knowit was called IWAY... why the RED ENGINE GORE is it called iway..

Amok

Amok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

IWAY stands for the first letter of the first 4 skills in the skill bar

Illusionary weaponry
Warriors endurance
Arcane encho
Yigorous Spirit

Accurax

Accurax

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ownington / OmgwtfpwnedsVille

Mo/Me

IWAY SMIWAY...,.. PAH

Oh... when did smurfhunter get banned?