I keep my area pretty neat, except the irony is my computer is a mess. I need to probably switch to water cooling and get a new case and do some cable sleeving.
The Ultimate Video Card Guide!
Techie
Nice, I like t3h XL versions of cards
I keep my area pretty neat, except the irony is my computer is a mess. I need to probably switch to water cooling and get a new case and do some cable sleeving.
I keep my area pretty neat, except the irony is my computer is a mess. I need to probably switch to water cooling and get a new case and do some cable sleeving.
Old Dood
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Nice, I like t3h XL versions of cards
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I am not up on this l33t speak...
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We're probably doing BF2, Quake4, and Fear. There's a few LAN gamers there who refuse to touch GW
 One of the rigs is a liquid-cooled 7800GTX-SLI. Here's a pic from our last LAN day at the host's previous house:  |
Techie
The green tubes are what carry chilled water throughout this system. Oddly enough, its called "water cooling"
Looks like a custom kit too :O
Looks like a custom kit too :O
Old Dood
Really? Darn I thought it was Alien Technology. 
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oh.k dont realy understand though it looks pretty cool.
Techie
Basically chilled water is sent through tubes and it goes to components of the computer, mainly the CPU and GPU, and is recycled and goes through again. It drops temps significantly if you get a custom kit from somewhere like www.dangerden.com
silentnswift
You really do not need a super high end card. I think Guild Wars relies more on RAM or Procceser speed. I am running an Radeon 8500 with all High Settings, Reflections on Default, Enabled post process effects, 1280x1024, with no AA. Looks pretty nice to me. O yea, I also have an Athlon XP 2400+ with 512mb SDRAM.
devilru
Okay, I'm looking into building my own custom pc and i'm quite the noob, so could you tell me how I can tell if a motherboard is compatible with a certain type of graphics card?
I want to get the
"SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 9600XT Atlantis 256MB DDR"
according to the first post its not the best card out there, but i'm on a budget and this one is only AUS$169
Is there any specific type of motherboard I need to purchase?
I want to get the
"SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 9600XT Atlantis 256MB DDR"
according to the first post its not the best card out there, but i'm on a budget and this one is only AUS$169
Is there any specific type of motherboard I need to purchase?
mocax
my Shuttle XPC can't take any cards better than a 9600XT. AFAIK, the 9600 is the best video card that doesn't require humongous fans that take up 2 slots.
Jakerius
Thanks for this thread Techie. That's an awesome post mate.
Checkin' out those overclocking links now.
Checkin' out those overclocking links now.
Old Dood
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Ok so I added the following:
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EternalTempest
The GeForce 7800 GTX 512 MB came out
Just came out, it's not only memory but incresed clock speeds / memory speeds
Here's a link with a bunch of reviews links:
http://www.warp2search.net/modules.p...icle&sid=26420
Just came out, it's not only memory but incresed clock speeds / memory speeds
Here's a link with a bunch of reviews links:
http://www.warp2search.net/modules.p...icle&sid=26420
Old Dood
Wow! It never ends does it? Wonder how long until a 1Gb GPU unit comes out. Seems like at some point will have to have a separate case just for the video card. $650.00 That will bring down the 256Mb version's price I would assume.
swaaye
X800XL is $50+ more than X800GTO. Performance is similar between the two if you take advantage of the mad overclocking the X800GTO can handle. The PCIe X800GTO2 can actually be modded thru software into a X850XT PE.
I wouldn't buy a 9600 card anymore. And yes there are many cards that are not dual slot cooled. X800XL is quite cool as it is 110nm. Geforce 6600GT and Radeon X700 are 110nm too. Same with 6800GS (NV42, I have one in my Inspiron notebook).
I wouldn't buy a 9600 card anymore. And yes there are many cards that are not dual slot cooled. X800XL is quite cool as it is 110nm. Geforce 6600GT and Radeon X700 are 110nm too. Same with 6800GS (NV42, I have one in my Inspiron notebook).
UBDead
Aight, so I have about a 125-150 price range here an I was wondering what would be a good recommended card for my older outta date 1Ghz Intel III with 600+ ram? I currently have NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 64 mb. Got it from a friend for 20 bucks. What would be a good OC set for my current card to hold me over? Thanks in advance.
Old Dood
You are really at that processor's limit now. I have a PIII 800 Mhz and it has a GeForce4 Ti 4200 128Mb. That is actually over kill for it. With that said...actually that card is the best for your older system. Faster then the FX5200 by a long shot. You really are wasting dollars if you think you are going to get much more snap out of your older system with a higher end vid card.
lord_shar
Pomised Nov-12 LAN-Day pic from "Landa Lane":
Caspertoo
ok....Here's one for you guys.
I had a sapphire x800GTO2, mod'd to all 16 pipes open but running on the base clock/mem speeds. GW kept on giving me a hardware error message, then I find out that the x800's sometimes have problems with my asus k8n4 mobo.
um ok I say...whatever
I go out and buy a eVGA 7800GT, get it in and I'm going along just fine and bam! I see textures on the ground, uh.....I find out about the Nvidia problem with that, no big deal. THen the damn card freezes up every so often, I find out on the EVGA site that others have had this problem with EVGA 7800's as well, some in other games but some in GW too.
Well damnit damnit, damnit all. THe x800GTO2 I ebay'd for 5 bucks less than what I bought it for.
Since the EVGA is less than 3 days old in my computer I'll return it for full refund.
What the hell is a bulletproof card for less than $400, that will work perfectly in GW without causing hardware errors and whatnot. Brandname and model pls.
I had a sapphire x800GTO2, mod'd to all 16 pipes open but running on the base clock/mem speeds. GW kept on giving me a hardware error message, then I find out that the x800's sometimes have problems with my asus k8n4 mobo.
um ok I say...whatever
I go out and buy a eVGA 7800GT, get it in and I'm going along just fine and bam! I see textures on the ground, uh.....I find out about the Nvidia problem with that, no big deal. THen the damn card freezes up every so often, I find out on the EVGA site that others have had this problem with EVGA 7800's as well, some in other games but some in GW too.
Well damnit damnit, damnit all. THe x800GTO2 I ebay'd for 5 bucks less than what I bought it for.
Since the EVGA is less than 3 days old in my computer I'll return it for full refund.
What the hell is a bulletproof card for less than $400, that will work perfectly in GW without causing hardware errors and whatnot. Brandname and model pls.
Ricardo the zealot
Im kinda new to the whole custom built computer shit, well acctualy theres not much i know about computers at all. But a quick question, do you all learn this from getting it drilled into your head by the people that make the cards or do you all do some kind of computer course. because frankly i have no idea and im getting annoyed when i see all these abbreviations, even after reading about overclocking when you write oc i instantly think of that annoying as hell tv show and lose track on what concept im trying grasp in my head. plus you said you use dry ice, do you mean through the green tubes...ie for cooling. and yes i can tell that thy arent all green. yeah you probably have figured out i want to understand but i dont know where to start 
no really, maybe someone could explain the basics to me
no really, maybe someone could explain the basics to me
Old Dood
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ok....Here's one for you guys.
What the hell is a bulletproof card for less than $400, that will work perfectly in GW without causing hardware errors and whatnot. Brandname and model pls. |
Caspertoo
Will an 850 be the same amount of non-fussiness? What brand do you have?
Old Dood
Brand on the box is ATI. Got it at Best Buy! Do not know about the 850. I just know that the X800XL is not made for much overclocking which is fine for me because I do not overclock anything. To me that means stable. On civfanatics.com we are all talking about how the new CIV4 game is giving allot of players grief. ATI & Nvidia cards have failed. High end rigs have failed. The game is broken in many ways....but it works for me....no problems with my system or video card.
Now a 6800GT is a solid card too. It is equal pretty much to the X800XL in speed. The 6800GT has pixel shader 3.0 though. It is more future proof.
Now a 6800GT is a solid card too. It is equal pretty much to the X800XL in speed. The 6800GT has pixel shader 3.0 though. It is more future proof.
lord_shar
It looks like the 7800GTX-512 just took back the graphics crown...
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gra...114/index.html
The card has a redesigned 7800 core with a smaller dye process and higher gpu + memory clock rates.
The crazy part: It's already available in volume, today, and not in the realm of vapor-ware.
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gra...114/index.html
The card has a redesigned 7800 core with a smaller dye process and higher gpu + memory clock rates.
The crazy part: It's already available in volume, today, and not in the realm of vapor-ware.
EternalTempest
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It looks like the 7800GTX-512 just took back the graphics crown...
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gra...114/index.html The card has a redesigned 7800 core with a smaller dye process and higher gpu + memory clock rates. The crazy part: It's already available in volume, today, and not in the realm of vapor-ware. |
Ati is far from out of the race but Ati has to work on some things:
A) Paper Launches - aka new "vaporware" product launched today.
Nividia use to do this but stopped playing the virtual product releases.
B) Dual Video cards will never take off - Ati felt there was no market for this, end result, 1 year head start for Nvidia. Ati has made great strides in catching up - From need an "master card - still vaporware?" to having dual video cards with two non-master cards"
C) Dual Core cpu support - Nvidia released support in current drivers, ati saying it will have it in a few months.
Windows Vista - Found some nice sights on video cards that will run Vista when it come out.
Nvidia (FX 5200 and up) - http://www.nvidia.com/page/technology_vista_home.html
Ati (9500 and up) - http://www.ati.com/technology/windowsvista/index.html
For links for other hardware - http://www.microsoft.com/technet/win.../entpguid.mspx
Mind you, if your at the low end of sys requirments, I don't see you running the new gui in all it's glory. Current on-board intel video cards run windows xp just fine too.. but for gaming now a days.
Trisped
I use a ATI AIW 9800 Pro with res set to 1600x1200 x 85hz x 32bit color. The game runs fine with the typical "High" settings except when you have a large number of spell spammers (where they cast large AoE spells that have detailed graphics). I turned the quality settings down so that everything was medium quality and have not had any problems.
As for ATI not being the best brand just because it sponsors a game, that is not always true. Most of the time, if a company sponsors a game they also invest in optimizing the video drivers and the game interface to get the most out of their cards. That doesn't mean you should by a poor ATI card over a much stronger Nividia card, just that if you are stuck between two identical cards you should get the one that boast better performance for the games you play.
As for ATI not being the best brand just because it sponsors a game, that is not always true. Most of the time, if a company sponsors a game they also invest in optimizing the video drivers and the game interface to get the most out of their cards. That doesn't mean you should by a poor ATI card over a much stronger Nividia card, just that if you are stuck between two identical cards you should get the one that boast better performance for the games you play.
EternalTempest
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I use a ATI AIW 9800 Pro with res set to 1600x1200 x 85hz x 32bit color. The game runs fine with the typical "High" settings except when you have a large number of spell spammers (where they cast large AoE spells that have detailed graphics). I turned the quality settings down so that everything was medium quality and have not had any problems.
As for ATI not being the best brand just because it sponsors a game, that is not always true. Most of the time, if a company sponsors a game they also invest in optimizing the video drivers and the game interface to get the most out of their cards. That doesn't mean you should by a poor ATI card over a much stronger Nividia card, just that if you are stuck between two identical cards you should get the one that boast better performance for the games you play. |
. It means when it comes out, they worked closely with them to make there drivers rock when it came out. As times go on, the other company gets there driver up to speed. A great example is Doom 3. Ati and Doom 3 were not ideal paring but this was mainly due to Ati (previous - there now fixing / fixed it) issue of poor OpenGL implementation. On the Flipside, Half-Life 2 was heavy Direct X game and Ati did better DX9 rendering at the time (9800 pro vs FX 5 series) and Ati was much better for it.
Now take Ati X series or Nvidia 7x series on those games and there near the same or run both so well that your testing the uber end of the spectrum.
Charr Killer
i have an integrated intel video card there is no way that i can ver put a better card in to my computer with the card am i correct?
lord_shar
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i have an integrated intel video card there is no way that i can ver put a better card in to my computer with the card am i correct?
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Old Dood
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Depends on your system. Most desktop systems with integrated video allow you to disable the onboard video card in the BIOS. Assuming you have a free AGP or PCIe slot, you could then drop in a faster video card.
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Charr Killer
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OR...if you do not have a Dedicated Video Card slot(for Example: a Dimension 2400)...then you will have to get a regular PCI vid card. Not to be confused with a PCIe slot.
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Old Dood
You have no dedicated video card slot. The best you can do is get a Regular PCI card. Go to Dell Community Forums under Dimension Video. There are stickys there that will let you know what is best for your Dim 3000. There is a sticky there letting you know what is avalible in video cards for your system. This question has been asked and answered many times there. We have a Dim 3000 at work. I bought it for one job...the UPS computer. Does that fine.
Tels
Quick question
I have a GeForce FX5200 running on a Dimension 2400. Ive bumped up the RAM (slightly) to 512mb. However the graphics in Guild Wars get really distorted. It looks like certain objects (hills, trees, etc) get stretched out on strange angles making it really hard to actually see whats going on. This seems to happen randomly.
Anyone got any suggestions on what I can do to stop this happening?
Thanks
I have a GeForce FX5200 running on a Dimension 2400. Ive bumped up the RAM (slightly) to 512mb. However the graphics in Guild Wars get really distorted. It looks like certain objects (hills, trees, etc) get stretched out on strange angles making it really hard to actually see whats going on. This seems to happen randomly.
Anyone got any suggestions on what I can do to stop this happening?
Thanks
Charr Killer
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You have no dedicated video card slot. The best you can do is get a Regular PCI card. Go to Dell Community Forums under Dimension Video. There are stickys there that will let you know what is best for your Dim 3000. There is a sticky there letting you know what is avalible in video cards for your system. This question has been asked and answered many times there. We have a Dim 3000 at work. I bought it for one job...the UPS computer. Does that fine.
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and while you are in that "question answering mood" can i add new memory too?
Old Dood
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how do i get to that website??
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Try this link for Dell Community forums.
http://forums.us.dell.com/supportfor...y.id=dimension
Imrys Starborn
Hey guys,
I overclocked my nVidia GeForce 6800 Go recently, and, well, now Guild Wars has gone all to hell:
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6400/gw0142dv.jpg
Comp specs are:
GeForce Go 256mb,
1.7Ghz,
1Gb ram,
If there's any more info you need, just mention it...
I was wondering if you could help me figure out why in the world it goes haywire. It only happens with Guildwars, no other game. (CoD2, Age of Empires 3, F.E.A.R....)
I overclocked my nVidia GeForce 6800 Go recently, and, well, now Guild Wars has gone all to hell:
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6400/gw0142dv.jpg
Comp specs are:
GeForce Go 256mb,
1.7Ghz,
1Gb ram,
If there's any more info you need, just mention it...
I was wondering if you could help me figure out why in the world it goes haywire. It only happens with Guildwars, no other game. (CoD2, Age of Empires 3, F.E.A.R....)
swaaye
Cuz you're overclocking too much. You can never tell how it will affect games. That's definitely a problem caused by overclocking though. Probably the vertex shaders going bananas.
Imrys Starborn
Heh, thanks.
I just put it back to normal instead of experimenting with it, I'll try putting it down a bit.
I just put it back to normal instead of experimenting with it, I'll try putting it down a bit.
Xue Yi Liang
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Pomised Nov-12 LAN-Day pic from "Landa Lane":
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who's the girl with the long hair and black shirt?
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I wasn't paying attention since my wife was next to me most of the time
