Title says it... I'm a ranger and i haven't seen any Ranger call for (in 5-6 ppl small farmings) farming in SF. I wonder why ?
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Why is it hard to a Ranger to get in a farm party?
Droven
heist23
because, in popular opinion, rangers are useless.
they can't tank as well as a warrior, and they supposedly can't deal as much damage as an axe warrior.
they can't interrupt as well as a mesmer, and the obviously can't heal.
they can't tank as well as a warrior, and they supposedly can't deal as much damage as an axe warrior.
they can't interrupt as well as a mesmer, and the obviously can't heal.
striderkaaru
because small farming parties want 1 tank, 2 monks, and 1-2 nukers.
Epinephrine
All of which is, of course, wrong. A ranger is a great thing to have around in a party, but people are shortsighted, and often a bit dumb.
Just decide what YOU want and make the parties.
Just decide what YOU want and make the parties.
Barinthus
Because they are morons, simple as that.
Volarian
I always want one of my guildies to be Ranger, for their interupts, barrage AOE and ranged attack.
My party always looks like this:
1Nec/Mo (me): Minion Master w/e BiP & Mark of Pain (30dmg to all)
1Ranger (guildie): Barrage, Ignite and whatever else he/she chooses
2Mo (1 prot/1heal)
1 E/Mes: obvious skill choices here
1 War/?: stances being primary need for SF, maybe a few attack skills just so that its not entirely boring to the player. Ele secondary isn't a bad choice here because of the Wards but w/e.
Warrior calls target and draws all agro, I hit that target with MoP, Ranger targets with barrage/Ingnite and of course my lil minions are just spittin away. Add to that the ele raining down fire and all I see are -30-30-12-30-11-30-30-30-30-13-30-30-30 etc. across my screen<--the smaller #'s being my wand dmg or minions melee dmg while the 30's are hitting every mob in that group everytime target gets hit..........mobs drop in mere seconds. Saves monks energy, eles energy/exhaustion and gives me lots n lots of bodies to raise from.
My party always looks like this:
1Nec/Mo (me): Minion Master w/e BiP & Mark of Pain (30dmg to all)
1Ranger (guildie): Barrage, Ignite and whatever else he/she chooses
2Mo (1 prot/1heal)
1 E/Mes: obvious skill choices here
1 War/?: stances being primary need for SF, maybe a few attack skills just so that its not entirely boring to the player. Ele secondary isn't a bad choice here because of the Wards but w/e.
Warrior calls target and draws all agro, I hit that target with MoP, Ranger targets with barrage/Ingnite and of course my lil minions are just spittin away. Add to that the ele raining down fire and all I see are -30-30-12-30-11-30-30-30-30-13-30-30-30 etc. across my screen<--the smaller #'s being my wand dmg or minions melee dmg while the 30's are hitting every mob in that group everytime target gets hit..........mobs drop in mere seconds. Saves monks energy, eles energy/exhaustion and gives me lots n lots of bodies to raise from.
Athis Strider
Oviously some players don't understand the importance of the Rangers role.
Our Interruption skills alone are worth their weight.
Our Interruption skills alone are worth their weight.
Droven
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Originally Posted by Epinephrine
All of which is, of course, wrong. A ranger is a great thing to have around in a party, but people are shortsighted, and often a bit dumb.
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Originally Posted by Athis Strider
Oviously some players don't understand the importance of the Rangers role.
Our Interruption skills alone are worth their weight. |
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Originally Posted by Epinephrine
Just decide what YOU want and make the parties.
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Jenosavel
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Originally Posted by Volarian
1Ranger (guildie): Barrage, Ignite and whatever else he/she chooses
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Don't forget that Barrage removes all preparations...
4runner
My ranger can deal alot of damage using the following:
1.quick shot
2.ingite arrows
3.applt poison
4.poison elite/barrage
5.whirling defense
6.dabiltating shot
7.serpents quikness
8.troll ungent
AOE AND POISON ican lay down alot of damage, poison sucks life for 12 secs,!! Very nice just hit everyone once with poison then hit em with barrage or ignite arrows lots of damage!!
1.quick shot
2.ingite arrows
3.applt poison
4.poison elite/barrage
5.whirling defense
6.dabiltating shot
7.serpents quikness
8.troll ungent
AOE AND POISON ican lay down alot of damage, poison sucks life for 12 secs,!! Very nice just hit everyone once with poison then hit em with barrage or ignite arrows lots of damage!!
Lews
You know Marage takes off Preperations, right?
DeanBB
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Ironsword
I Know how you feel I'm a W/R and sometimes I get into parties and they get mad at me because I'm not at the front acting as a meat shield. well I'm not using any of my warrior skills anymore because once I got past the southern shiverpeaks I die way too easily. maybe it's my builds or whatever but it sucks trying to fight lava imps when you have a 60%dp because nobody will keep you alive. when I'm in battle I rely on the monks to heal me because the healing sig takes too long and its easily interrupted so i'm screwed if the monk isn't doing his job.
I use Bows exclusively now and I take nothing but ranger skills with me which has worked out very nicely. ignite and poison arrows are awesome skills as well as the traps I have. plus someone said earlier that rangers don't heal thats not true because I use healing spring quite often which is a very nice healing skill with an area effect and I use troll ungent which will neutralize any poison or hex/curse I have on me plus most times put me in a positive health regen.
I use Bows exclusively now and I take nothing but ranger skills with me which has worked out very nicely. ignite and poison arrows are awesome skills as well as the traps I have. plus someone said earlier that rangers don't heal thats not true because I use healing spring quite often which is a very nice healing skill with an area effect and I use troll ungent which will neutralize any poison or hex/curse I have on me plus most times put me in a positive health regen.
Arngrim120
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Oviously some players don't understand the importance of the Rangers role.
Our Interruption skills alone are worth their weight. |
fubar121
I have to agree the ranger is a excellent thing to have. I have played the meat shield with first charactor and yes you are MEAT. and yes youdo damage up the ying yang, However I have been playing 2nd char R/Me and let me tell you death from a distance can be a great thing. 3 reasons of the top of my head 1, IF god forbid the meat dies and the healers are swarmed. I can run back off till the smoke clears and res a healer or two.
2, umm ya AoE. nuff said
3, ranger chics when created right are the sexiest characters in the game can you say EYE CANDY .
just my 2 cents worth.
Rangers the great underdogs that are over looked.
P.S hated rangers till I played one
2, umm ya AoE. nuff said
3, ranger chics when created right are the sexiest characters in the game
can you say EYE CANDY .just my 2 cents worth.
Rangers the great underdogs that are over looked.
P.S hated rangers till I played one
carnivore
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Originally Posted by 4runner
My ranger can deal alot of damage using the following:
1.quick shot 2.ingite arrows 3.applt poison 4.poison elite/barrage 5.whirling defense 6.dabiltating shot 7.serpents quikness 8.troll ungent AOE AND POISON ican lay down alot of damage, poison sucks life for 12 secs,!! Very nice just hit everyone once with poison then hit em with barrage or ignite arrows lots of damage!! |
you have 2 elites. 2 preps. 2 stances, 1 energy denial, 1 self heal.
a barage ranger can be really strong for farming. use a conjure, or favorable winds, and a IAS and you can spam barrage every 1.33 secs. ~20 to rangers and warriors, 40+ for anything else
Morganas
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Originally Posted by heist23
because, in popular opinion, rangers are useless.
they can't tank as well as a warrior, and they supposedly can't deal as much damage as an axe warrior. they can't interrupt as well as a mesmer, and the obviously can't heal. |
I think the problem is too many rangers try and make play damage oriented builds in pve, and in doing so make themselves useless, since even mesmers can put out more dps on high lvl/high armor monsters. Maybe ranger dmg in pvp makes people think it will be good in pve as well.
chaos dragoon
The thing is, as said in a previous post, that people want 1 tank 2 monks 1-2 nukers.
Its just that they can do it without a ranger so why split the drops even more.
Its just that they can do it without a ranger so why split the drops even more.
Grim Aragorn
rangers once in furnace for FA are useful tank has full aggro and just throw dirst and trap spam them =) makes it easier for tank and monks etc. etc.
One and Two
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Originally Posted by 4runner
My ranger can deal alot of damage using the following:
1.quick shot 2.ingite arrows 3.applt poison 4.poison elite/barrage 5.whirling defense 6.dabiltating shot 7.serpents quikness 8.troll ungent AOE AND POISON ican lay down alot of damage, poison sucks life for 12 secs,!! Very nice just hit everyone once with poison then hit em with barrage or ignite arrows lots of damage!! |
Droven
My build is
11 ex (or 10 fire magic)
11 ws
15 ms
Kindle Arrows
Troll Unugent
Poison Arrow
Power Shot
Penetrating Attack / Distracting Shot
Conjure Flame / Whirling Defence
Fire Storm / Throw Dirt / ?? (Can be anything )
Res Signet
11 ex (or 10 fire magic)
11 ws
15 ms
Kindle Arrows
Troll Unugent
Poison Arrow
Power Shot
Penetrating Attack / Distracting Shot
Conjure Flame / Whirling Defence
Fire Storm / Throw Dirt / ?? (Can be anything
)Res Signet
Pevil Lihatuh
If you're on the american servers, look out for me. I regularly farm SF with my friend. We take him (W/E), me (R/Me - ranger skills only), Lina, Mehnlo and Cynn. And we do just fine. We'd be happy to take another ranger along
or do as I do when he's not online. Take every hench from War Camp except Aiden. You'll have no problems with just killing things (quests can be a different matter due to hench stupidity)
or do as I do when he's not online. Take every hench from War Camp except Aiden. You'll have no problems with just killing things (quests can be a different matter due to hench stupidity)
Seissor
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Originally Posted by Barinthus
Because they are morons, simple as that.
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Players are morons, not classes.
My R/Mo is ALWAYS the last one standing in farming parties. Sadly, some ppl arent mentally adept enough to use Rangers. I find as a whole, more tanks are morons.
Beacause.
1: they regen fast, so they assume EVERYONE regens as fast as them.
2: they are in the front, and tend to aggro...EVERYTHING
Of course, not all tanks do this, but some players are dumb dumb dumb.
T0rnDegree
I also find it hard with my Ranger to get a group too. Even to do the story line.
mines is a Ranger/Necro build yes odd build but IMO it's working very nice it'smy 1st real character that gotten to lvl 11...
i take with me Troll Ungent, Ignight arrow, Distracting Shot. then blood magic for necro why you ask it's how i like to play and Distracting shot helps on them monk and necro type mobs alot specially when there casting heal area and life siphon or nother health dilabating spell.
mines is a Ranger/Necro build yes odd build but IMO it's working very nice it'smy 1st real character that gotten to lvl 11...
i take with me Troll Ungent, Ignight arrow, Distracting Shot. then blood magic for necro why you ask it's how i like to play and Distracting shot helps on them monk and necro type mobs alot specially when there casting heal area and life siphon or nother health dilabating spell.
Akagi
ranger is very strong with trap and interrupting. strongest degenner =/
just think of fighting a ranger.. can make u crippled, blind, poison, bleed, on fire =/
r/me can add another conjure =/
just think of fighting a ranger.. can make u crippled, blind, poison, bleed, on fire =/
r/me can add another conjure =/
synbios_kun
ah yes, interrupt. one of my favorite interrupts is concussion shot. lay this down on a monk who attempts a desperate heal, or an mursaat ele who tries a chain lightning, and boom, insta-win. i love watching the purple flashes on their casting bars as they continually fail to cast spells. i also keep a distracting shot to cancel their glyph of concentration. and with that, total shutdown that only mesmers can rival.
Droven
What can we do ?
Former Ruling
Just to note - Me and another Ranger friend of mine (both ranger/ele's) took henchies, and were able to almost completely clear out Grenth Footprint only dying once (and we went up to Granite Citidel too - since I had not mapped it yet).
Athis Strider
Check this out. The other day I helped a guildie infuse his armor. No one was taking Rangers. I spammed "rangers only for infusion run" I already had one really cool monk and a R/e on the team. We ended up one Monk and all Rangers. OMG it wasthe most fun thing I have ever done. After we got the guys infused, we went out hunting. All you heard was when we attacked was
swish swish swish swish swish swish/ thack thack thack thack thack.....THUMP monster dead. I have never seen a Mussarat die that fast!
The point is, it seems that a pack of Rangers with a monk to look after us is a very powerfull combination. This may not work for all situations, but im gonna experiment a little with this concept just for fun sakes. By the way if you guys load
Powershot
Apply poison
Chocking Gas
Lighning reflexes
Tigers fury
Troll Urgent
Rez or Whirling defense
and use a short bow with like 15%>50
You will be a Gatling gun!
Providing your attribute/ runes are set correctly
Apply poison, the shoot first target, hit Lighting Reflexes, and time it. Use Tigers when Lightning ends, and you will shoot at double the normal speed as long as you want. You will poison the hell out of what ever you are attaking.
swish swish swish swish swish swish/ thack thack thack thack thack.....THUMP monster dead. I have never seen a Mussarat die that fast!
The point is, it seems that a pack of Rangers with a monk to look after us is a very powerfull combination. This may not work for all situations, but im gonna experiment a little with this concept just for fun sakes. By the way if you guys load
Powershot
Apply poison
Chocking Gas
Lighning reflexes
Tigers fury
Troll Urgent
Rez or Whirling defense
and use a short bow with like 15%>50
You will be a Gatling gun!
Providing your attribute/ runes are set correctly
Apply poison, the shoot first target, hit Lighting Reflexes, and time it. Use Tigers when Lightning ends, and you will shoot at double the normal speed as long as you want. You will poison the hell out of what ever you are attaking.