Cape toggle causing guild drop?

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

since the update i have since be playing with my cape off. many other of my guilds have done the same but now we are experiencing guild drop. we temp drop from the guild. after a few minutes you will be back in guild. happens anytime you zone.

has anyone else noticed this with guild drop?

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

This has happened extremely frequently ever since I turned off my cape yesterday.

RagingTowers

RagingTowers

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

N/Mo

Yea i noticed this happening this morning. I posted about it on Gamefaqs, but that site is full of FF7 fanboys an morons that they claimed I was lying and that the glitch was "So old Jesus wrote about it." I hate that place....

Roza

Roza

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Amsterdam

The War Masters

R/W

It is not the cape toggle. Me and others of my guild had the cape on and it happened to us all the time today. Besides, the cape is just an appearance thing, it is not likely to be the cause of this bug.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Myself and a couple of other guildies have had our capes toggled off since the option came in. As I am aware, only I ever had the guild drop issue, once, for about 2 seconds, as I logged in.

Evil_Chyros

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Legion of Midnight Aguila

E/Me

I'm sure w/ or w/o cape, u'll also experience this. Lot of my guildmates experienced this one its just not same time. It happens on everyone i think.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
Myself and a couple of other guildies have had our capes toggled off since the option came in. As I am aware, only I ever had the guild drop issue, once, for about 2 seconds, as I logged in.
My story is the same as his.

Edit: Nevermind...after finally logging on today...my account, all 4 characters...my girlfriends account and my brothers account are all expeierencing this. Though once my account got back in, I looked and seen they kicked my girlfriend from the guild...my guild leader just randomly kicked 7 people from the guild...I'm going to have to have a talk with him now...

PieXags

PieXags

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Infinite Representation Of Pie And Its Many Brilliances

Our entire guild has been randomly getting dropped/readded to the guild for the whole day, most always played with their capes (I personally did not) but many many of us experienced it all the same.

Sai of Winter

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

The guild that I am in has been getting dropped frequently, but each member always recover. For some reason I have been guildless the entire day and never receive the guild tag back. I am still in the guild, but its been acting looney all day to me. The members have the guild tag and hall, but the guild chat isn't working for them.

Alexandrite

Alexandrite

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Heroes of Order

N/Me

the guild tags issue was there in random districts a week or two before the toggle at the very least, guys. i could prove that if screenies were timestamped on the image itself, heh... me and my boyfriend were exploring, and stumbled one day into a town somewhere in the shiverpeaks where it took me a min to realize "there's something wrong with this picture... doh! no one has guild capes! O_O" this was a week or two before Halloween, hence before the toggle.

The toggle's just a cosmetic thing anyways, this started happening before it was implemented, therefore i don't think they are connected.

would love to know what's really up, straight from Anet, though... hope they can tell us soon, that they're aware and are tracking it down..

nightrunner

nightrunner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

San Francisco

W/Mo

Previously, it seemed as if people that used the Cape toggle were more suspectable to the guild-drop bug. However, as of today, it seems to be happening indiscriminately.

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Can't confirm this - I turned off the cape on all my characters the moment the patch was released. I didn't experience any guild drops until yesterday - which means the cape toggle worked fine for almost two weeks.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

I don't think it is, I had my guild cape and headgear turned off since the patch came out and had no problems. However the issue randomlly happens, and tends to get worse over time, followed by neterror 7s as well.

I sure A.net are working on fixing the issue, I hope so. Since my and my guild were going to do some GvG, but easier said then done with half the team unable to get to guildhall.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

its not linked to the cape toggle causing it but with the cape turned on all the time i get guild drope less.

so far haven't be kicked from the guild in 2 hours since i switched it.

stoned bob

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I think this is happening since yesterday so i guess anet is having problems with their servers

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by stoned bob
I think this is happening since yesterday so i guess anet is having problems with their servers
That is the most likely cause of the issue, I really do feel this has nothing to do with the cape toggle at all. As his issue has happened before in the past.

Since it was very bad yesterday, most likely its a A.net related issue.

Omega_2005

Omega_2005

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

UK, or is it? *confused*

A/Rt

Well, let's hope that the problem gets sorted out within the week... otherwise I may have to drop playtime consistently...

Charcoal Ann

Charcoal Ann

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

In a World of BADGERS!

Eternal Flame Brotherhood

wasn't there a problem with guild drop when they added support for more languages? didn't they just add this support to the EU servers? weren't europeans compaining of guild drops last week?

it is just a recurring bug. it has been seen before and, no doubt, will be seen again.

ExplosiveBadger

ExplosiveBadger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

MN

E/Mo

Getting the same problem here. So keeping the cape on fixes the glitch?

Thock

Thock

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Achieving Deficiency [aD]

Same here on and off. It happens sometimes when i port or zone somewhere. sometimes it only lasts a couple of seconds and other times it lasts until i zone and other times i have to log off of GW compleately before it is fixed.

On a side note.....@ExplosiveBadger that is an awesome avatar

judge1121

judge1121

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Outlaws Of Ascalon

Mo/

to me is seems like a lagg in the system, trying to access the guild ur in. that is y u have to wait for it to load every time u zone.

Seissor

Seissor

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Squiggilyville. Population: Me.

[oRly] Hello Kitty Death Squad

R/Me

its been bad for me today, about 12 times lost my guild, then got it back 0.o oh well..so long as it comes back.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ExplosiveBadger
Getting the same problem here. So keeping the cape on fixes the glitch?
No its doesn't. I tested it last night and it makes no difference.

Phoenix Denfer

Phoenix Denfer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Homeless since the Charr

Order of Pointed Sticks (OOPS)

TY! I thought I was losing my mind.

I had two of my characters have issue with this bug, and have reported it as such. I have seen the delay in cape and subsequently the delay in appearing in the guild list. I have also seen the bright yellow guild tag on a fellow guildie not show on his name tag until about 2 mins into the zone.

This was not an issue for me until yesterday. I assume it may have been introduced with the cape toggle feature and perhaps irritated with the last update.

Either way, at least I now know I'm not alone on this subject and hopefully Anet has been fully notified.

Unik

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

This bug may have been revived with the latest update, but has no direct relation to the toggle cape option.

The first time this bug was seen was back in the beta weekends, it also briefly appeared at least once since release. I haven’t toggled off my cape and yet I was in and out of the guild constantly yesterday, it seems to trigger most of the times when you map somewhere.

Unik

Phoenix Denfer

Phoenix Denfer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Homeless since the Charr

Order of Pointed Sticks (OOPS)

ahh yes, I remember those reports being posted now. It does sound like a database server is ailing then. I still wouldn't rule out the toggle feature as what may have triggered it again. That would be tied to that same guild database would it not?

Either way, its annoying, its happening more frequently now to a lot of other people and maybe make it easier for Anet to find it and repair it.

I'm just relieved it is widespread, as my guildies had me convinced it was just me.

User Name

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

I like how obvious it is that nobody has any idea what they are talking about.

The Cape toggle is not just a "cosmetic" thing....Toggling it on/off queries the database, any time a database is queried for information a problem can occur. If they have their checksets setup backwards it's quite possible that the cape toggle could cause you to drop from your guild. Just because you experienced the problem before the update doesn't mean that the Cape Toggle didn't further perpetuate the problem.

NightOwl

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

This game is becoming unplayable in pvp at a rapid rate. Between dropping from the guild on a regular enough basis to be used to it, and mounting lag issues, it's getting quite frustrating.

I have yet to see Anet post about when the fix is coming, if it is. Has anyone else heard anything?

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NightOwl
This game is becoming unplayable in pvp at a rapid rate. Between dropping from the guild on a regular enough basis to be used to it, and mounting lag issues, it's getting quite frustrating.

I have yet to see Anet post about when the fix is coming, if it is. Has anyone else heard anything?
In short... no.

The long answer is A.net are most likely aware of the issue due to these threads appearing on all the forums. Bugs take time to fix, then they take time to test to make sure they workand don't break something else.

No one has heared anything so best to give it some time, A.net patch mostly on Wednesdays, unless there is a major bug.

In the meantime if the game is unplayable there are plenty of other games for you to try?

NightOwl

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
In the meantime if the game is unplayable there are plenty of other games for you to try?
Good idea, time to break out the credit card. However, that isn't what I said.

Phades

Phades

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
In the meantime if the game is unplayable there are plenty of other games for you to try?
Suggesting someone to leave on the note of being unsatisfied with the game is the same as telling them to never come back.

Batou of Nine

Batou of Nine

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

California, USA

Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")

Mo/E

I wrote this to Anet Support::

Quote:
Are you aware that after the latest patch, that most, if not all, of the Guild Wars community has been experiencing random drops from their guild!?

This occurs after loadups entering/exiting towns, starting a PvP match, etc etc. A person will lose their guild membership status, and it is then fixed upon a fresh loadup btween zones.

This needs to be fixed ASAP. The GW community cannot be expected to play with this kind of bug present. This bug prevents guilds from functioning as they should and heavily hurts the PvP community as a whole for obvious reasons!

PLEASE PLEASE work on this problem ASAP! THANKS!!
They promptly responded, 2 hours later::

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anet Support
Hello Chris,

Thank you for contacting Guild Wars Support.

Typically, you'll notice this after an update. Due to the amount of players exiting and logging back in at the same time, occasionally the servers responsible for keeping track of your guild will get a little busier than normal and it may take a few moments for your particular character to update. This should fix itself very soon.

Also, try creating a new character to see if that character is in the guild or if it can be re-invited. If these measures do not work, please be patient as we work to fix this issue.

Please let us know if this does not resolve itself within a few hours. If you have any further questions please let us know and we will gladly assist you!

Kind regards,
The Guild Wars Support Team

We will assume your issue has been resolved if we do not hear from you within 72 hours.
So i think in other words, just give it time. Either it wil self fix soon, or they are currently fixing on a perma solution!

Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Shadowlight Order [SoR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phades
Suggesting someone to leave on the note of being unsatisfied with the game is the same as telling them to never come back.
I didn't get that message at all in his post. What I got was if you're frustrated and can't play, take a short break and play something else for a bit. There's nothing wrong with taking a break from a game you play all of the time.

I love how rumors get started and then people come up with ideas to support crazy ideas to invent an explanation to make themselves feel better.

Could cape toggling be the problem? Yes.
Could cape toggling have nothing to do with the problem? Yes
Could the problem be something we know nothing about because we aren't privy to the code? Hell Yes!

Obviously something recently has affected how the servers are talking. It's fairly obvious that ANet knows there's a problem. Like some of the wiser posters have stated, bugs take time to specifically locate, fix, test and implement.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phades
Suggesting someone to leave on the note of being unsatisfied with the game is the same as telling them to never come back.
No... I never said that at all. Taking time off is never a bad thing, people seem to forget there are other games other then Guild Wars to play

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fyre Brand
I didn't get that message at all in his post. What I got was if you're frustrated and can't play, take a short break and play something else for a bit. There's nothing wrong with taking a break from a game you play all of the time.
That is the point I was trying to get across.

Phades

Phades

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
No... I never said that at all. Taking time off is never a bad thing, people seem to forget there are other games other then Guild Wars to play
Why bother when the last memory of the game is problems. It becomes worse when problems become the normal part of the game after every patch. Granted they arent the same style of problems ala breaking bards in EQ or infliltrators in PS, but im sure you get the idea now. Taking time off because the gameplay got a little stale is a valid suggestion. Hiding from the game while it becomes stressful due to technical issues that shouldnt exist is not. There is a large difference between the two situations.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Not to be parnoid but i wonder if this bug can accidently remove you from a guild? I personally been experiencing this lot lately. It usually take 4 or 5 minutes before the server kicks in and bring by my cape and guild. And i notice that when you zone into new areas (such as towns or outposts) you would lose your cape for a while before server give it back to you.

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

No since the update, it was like that all of Sunday.
Lots of people I know had the same thing.
So yeah no cape has nothing to do with it.

But to say the least, after the option for cape toggle I would gladly leave my guild if they take that option off.
Armor looks so much better without the stupid cape.