Favorable Winds + Read the Wind = Stack?
Eonwe
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Originally Posted by leeky baby
the reason why ranger spike teams use Fw and RTW os because if they have one of them up they still got x2 speed and +6 dmg.This is because the spirt can be kileld easy as its proberly on level 11 and the read the wind can be drained so they have more of a chance that they have one of them up if they got both,they also use winnowing for extra +4 dmg i dotn no if this stacks 
Read the Wind cannot be 'drained'. It's a preperation, not an enchantment. Simply put, Favorable Winds is superfluous and isn't necessary when using Read the Wind. Also, the arrow speed buff from Read the Wind alone is actually 4x arrow speed, not 2x like the skill description says. It's just a little bug that Anet never bothers to fix.
Read the Wind cannot be 'drained'. It's a preperation, not an enchantment. Simply put, Favorable Winds is superfluous and isn't necessary when using Read the Wind. Also, the arrow speed buff from Read the Wind alone is actually 4x arrow speed, not 2x like the skill description says. It's just a little bug that Anet never bothers to fix.
super dooper
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Originally Posted by Eonwe
Also, the arrow speed buff from Read the Wind alone is actually 4x arrow speed, not 2x like the skill description says. It's just a little bug that Anet never bothers to fix.
thanks for clearing that up. (and even before I asked! haha) I was just noticing that earlier while messing around with a Flatbow. I thought it was a bug or something.. grr, was hoping I could use Barrage with the same arrow flight time RtW gives (while using a Flatbow), curses!
id0l
Just to let ya'll know A.Net hasn't responded to my submission of this bug. I've been "reminding" them about once a week to no avail. Go figure.
Barinthus
Great reading this thread! Thanks for postings.
prencher
What exactly is the purpose of using RTW instead of KA for spike dmg? I've hardly done any PvP as of yet, but KA seems to me like it'd do much better damage?
yangster
When you shoot an arrow it has a slow speed and can miss even with a short bow so RtW is there to make sure you hit your enemy w/o missing. You can use KA for arenas but RtW is perfered in tombs due to it's speed and extra damage.
Rey Lentless
There's a few other reasons.
1. You don't get the winnowing damage.
2. You have to spend points into wilderness.
3. Orders don't work with it.
Kindle has it's advantages though. It does have more pure damage, isn't countered as heavily by shield's up, and it's damage doesn't stack on top of the arrow damage, so things like prot spirit and life bond wouldn't hurt it's damage (but shielding hands and warr dam reduction of course would hurt it more).
1. You don't get the winnowing damage.
2. You have to spend points into wilderness.
3. Orders don't work with it.
Kindle has it's advantages though. It does have more pure damage, isn't countered as heavily by shield's up, and it's damage doesn't stack on top of the arrow damage, so things like prot spirit and life bond wouldn't hurt it's damage (but shielding hands and warr dam reduction of course would hurt it more).
prencher
KA adds fire damage on top, so surely you could still use winnowing?
the drizzle
KA changes it from physical to elemental damage, so winnowing no longer works.
prencher
Are you sure it changes the main damage to fire? I thought it added fire damage on top of the regular bow physical damage.
Rey Lentless
It changes it to fire damage. You'd think it would add fire damage since that damage is separated, but it's not.
Ignite on the other hand, does not convert the damage.
Ignite on the other hand, does not convert the damage.
Batou of Nine
I would like this confirmed also. According to the skill description it does NOT specifically say it changes the arrow dmg to fire. This is the desription::
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has anyone tested this yet? is there really a WAY to test dmg types?
maybe ill try...testing....somehow...lol
Del12
noooo now ranger spikers are gonna have another +6 per arrow...I guess I'll die in .15 seconds rather than .20 now.
id0l
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Originally Posted by Batou of Nine
I would like this confirmed also. According to the skill description it does NOT specifically say it changes the arrow dmg to fire. This is the desription::
An additional should mean it adds fire dmg on top of your physical arrow dmg, however, additional makes it seem like it is already doing fire dmg. What gives? no where else in the description does it mention arrow dmg change...
has anyone tested this yet? is there really a WAY to test dmg types?
maybe ill try...testing....somehow...lol You can tell that it changes that damage type to fire because you can run Conjure Flame with Kindle Arrows, even without a fiery bow string.
An additional should mean it adds fire dmg on top of your physical arrow dmg, however, additional makes it seem like it is already doing fire dmg. What gives? no where else in the description does it mention arrow dmg change...
has anyone tested this yet? is there really a WAY to test dmg types?
maybe ill try...testing....somehow...lol You can tell that it changes that damage type to fire because you can run Conjure Flame with Kindle Arrows, even without a fiery bow string.
Batou of Nine
lol, just now checked that answer. Thx!
and tested. you are correct sir! (ma'am?)
and tested. you are correct sir! (ma'am?)
id0l
Finally I am warranted with a response from GW support:
Hello Mitch,
Thank you for your bug report. This issue is a known issue that the development team is aware of and should be fixed in a later build. For information on game updates, please check the website:
http://www.guildwars.com/news/gameupdates.html
Thanks again and I’ll see you in Guild Wars!
Rhoda Fire – GW QACC
Hello Mitch,
Thank you for your bug report. This issue is a known issue that the development team is aware of and should be fixed in a later build. For information on game updates, please check the website:
http://www.guildwars.com/news/gameupdates.html
Thanks again and I’ll see you in Guild Wars!
Rhoda Fire – GW QACC
4runner
NIce Work guys, ive always wondered about that!!! Thanks!
kindle+bleeding+poison+FW= Rangers FTW!!!!!
kindle+bleeding+poison+FW= Rangers FTW!!!!!
BerryRacer
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Originally Posted by Rey Lentless
It changes it to fire damage. You'd think it would add fire damage since that damage is separated, but it's not.
Ignite on the other hand, does not convert the damage. Are you sure about this? Your probably right its just if you run kindle and attack someone under Mist Form, only the kindle damages. Try it though it may be that its just bugged against that skill because i've also always up till i had that encounter thought it changed it all to fire.
Anyway someone else could test this that would be great.
Ignite on the other hand, does not convert the damage. Are you sure about this? Your probably right its just if you run kindle and attack someone under Mist Form, only the kindle damages. Try it though it may be that its just bugged against that skill because i've also always up till i had that encounter thought it changed it all to fire.
Anyway someone else could test this that would be great.
Eonwe
Yes, Kindle Arrows does convert your piercing damage to fire damage.
BerryRacer
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Originally Posted by Eonwe
Yes, Kindle Arrows does convert your piercing damage to fire damage.
Edit: Yes sorry I was thinking Mist Form blocked physical attacks, but yes as it states
For 8-18 seconds, you cannot take or deal damage from attacks. So yeah any attacks either Elemental or otherwise deal no damage, though kindle still hits..which was where i messed up
For 8-18 seconds, you cannot take or deal damage from attacks. So yeah any attacks either Elemental or otherwise deal no damage, though kindle still hits..which was where i messed up
Mayar third Keeper
looks like this bug is gone... can anyone confirm this?
Mercury Angel
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Originally Posted by Mayar third Keeper
looks like this bug is gone... can anyone confirm this?
Edit: 0 attribute marksmanship
Short Bow, +15% while in stance (not using a stance)
1-2 damage on 100 AL target
4-5 with Read the wind
7-8 with Favourable Winds
10-11 with FW->RtW
10-11 with RtW->FW
If I had a candy cane bow, I could remove all variation, but the results are pretty consistent regardless.
Short Bow, +15% while in stance (not using a stance)
1-2 damage on 100 AL target
4-5 with Read the wind
7-8 with Favourable Winds
10-11 with FW->RtW
10-11 with RtW->FW
If I had a candy cane bow, I could remove all variation, but the results are pretty consistent regardless.
Kaguya
It is fixed now alright. Clicky
From left to right:
Neither on -> RtW only -> RtW first, followed by FW -> FW first, followed by RtW
Marksmanship 0 while testing, and unmodded candy cane bow as weap.
From left to right:
Neither on -> RtW only -> RtW first, followed by FW -> FW first, followed by RtW
Marksmanship 0 while testing, and unmodded candy cane bow as weap.
Arturo02
what about the speed bonus stacking?
jeff the
ah thank everyone i was wondering this my self so my ranger may try this soon