w/mo griff farm with sword???

Sharpe_116

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Adventurers Society

Mo/W

ive been looking at this for all u sword lovers and ive been wondering if the griff farm build coul sacrifice healing hands for hundred blades... Healing hands could be replaced with a prot like aiges or something around there. But... hundred blades has an 8 second recharge, 4 seconds longer than cyclone axe, anyone wanna help me on this

Niosisw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Few Fallen Heros [FFH]

W/Mo

I farm with a sword....

Don't use any sword attacks though....

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

man i nvr use healing hands LOL lots of w/mo like myself use glad defence

karunpav

karunpav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Well, I've tried it. It doesn't work as well as Cyclone Axe. It works, but just not as efficiently. And, with my build, Healing Hands is a major skill that i use. I don't like to swap it. But that's just me.

Sharpe_116

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Adventurers Society

Mo/W

Well, what if u changed healing hands with vigorous spirit . every time u swing hundred blades, u get the healing from live vicarously and spirit O.o.

Tmm Ryan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Plkn

I always use a sword. and this skill setup is discovered by me but cant keep it in all the time

Mending (3 pip regen)8 healing)
Hundred Blades
Healing Breeze (rarely need it but never know)
Symbol of Wrath
Balthazars Aura
Balthazars Spirit
Bonnettis Defence
Vigourous Spirit

Works really well when you get the hang of it, maybe i make a video one day.
To get Hundred blades to work as effectively as cyclone axe, best thing to do is round all griffons up, cast bigorous then turn around so they are all infront of you instead of around you, this way, you hit each one and get 6-12 hp for each hit (or watevr it is) I use a 3/-1 sword hilt for farming grffons.

15- 22 fellblade req 9
Damage 13 (while enchanted)
3/-1 sword hilt
Health + 28

anything similar would work well.
Customized for me

capitalist

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Eh, try this... doesnt matter what one-handed weapon you use:
Smite 12
Healing 9
Tactics 10

SoW
Balth Aura
Bonettis
Healing Hands
Healing Breeze
Zealots Fire
Balth Spirit
Mending

Gather them all together, stay away from rockshots (run back to an area that was rockshot free if need be), hit bonettits if your health hits 300 (should be charged), if you are fine and good hit Healing Hands->Balth Aura->Zealots->Symbol of Wrath-> Healing Breeze -> Bonettis (wait til breeze has been cast->Healing Breeze(when bonettis flashes)->Bonettis->Healing Hands-> Balth Aura->Symbol of Wrath. Most should be dead at this point. I think my weapon has a 15% longer enchanted mod.

Sharpe_116

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Adventurers Society

Mo/W

thanks all this has really helped me piss off some guildies who are axe lovers lmaa. Ryan and capatilist, i will try both your builds thanks for the help

Elrohir

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/Me

i tried glads but didnt like it so i run healing hands but anyway im sure that hundred blades will do just fine. I run a sword in PvE and in PvP i dont use a tank im a spike/trap/inturupt ranger. This is what i run:

8 healing
10 smiting
8 Axe
8 tactics
(this is without 30 extra att points I'm just to lazy to do them )

cyclone Axe
bonettis defense
vigorous spirit
baths Aura
healing hands
healing breeze (like Tmm i never use and sometimes switch it with symbol of wrath)
mending
live vicariously

I used this with no shield (well a strength req shield which cancels out because i don't have any strength att. and no runes what so ever. My Axe didn't have and fort mods either and i did fine.)

master_ranger_matt

master_ranger_matt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Salt Lake City, Utah.... no im not mormon

Radicals Against Tyrants [RAT]

R/Me

do u think a ranger monk could farm this build? i got better energy than warriors, so that might help things on the side of armor?

Sharpe_116

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Adventurers Society

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elrohir
i tried glads but didnt like it so i run healing hands but anyway im sure that hundred blades will do just fine. I run a sword in PvE and in PvP i dont use a tank im a spike/trap/inturupt ranger. This is what i run:

8 healing
10 smiting
8 Axe
8 tactics
(this is without 30 extra att points I'm just to lazy to do them )

cyclone Axe
bonettis defense
vigorous spirit
baths Aura
healing hands
healing breeze (like Tmm i never use and sometimes switch it with symbol of wrath)
mending
live vicariously

I used this with no shield (well a strength req shield which cancels out because i don't have any strength att. and no runes what so ever. My Axe didn't have and fort mods either and i did fine.)
I dont even run sword. I RUN A WAND FOR GOD SAKES!!! My basic pve team build for things like sorrows and missions and random pve stuff, is a smiting build which combines the tanks health and armour, and the monk ssmiting power. The problem with my build is that if a newb gets into aggro range i dont gain energy anymore... i need monsters to hit me for energy i posted the build before but no one cared :S

monk muffle

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

dude dont even think of using a sword btw helaing hands is a lot better than glads dfense

carnivore

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by master_ranger_matt
do u think a ranger monk could farm this build? i got better energy than warriors, so that might help things on the side of armor?
hahaha..no

i've seen a solo trapper who takes on 1-2 groups at a time tho.

no pretrapping either


Quote:
Originally Posted by monk muffle
dude dont even think of using a sword btw helaing hands is a lot better than glads dfense bull. healing hands is just for the people who cant keep themselves alive. glads defense does damage, hence killing the griffs faster

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpe_116
I dont even run sword. I RUN A WAND FOR GOD SAKES!!! Heh, that's what I do too. It's so freaking hard to get people to understand the virtue of a Smiting Rod/Staff. It does appreciable damage (11-22), and keeps you from having to spend points in a mele attribute since your smiting should already be 9 or higher anyway. Not to mention other benefits (ranged, pulling, enemies don't blind you, etc...).

And Ivor's Staff rocks for farming. 22 seconds of Shield of Judgement can really put the hurt on some azz.

Reve2uk

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/N

whats the max amount of ppl you can take on with a rod/staff. Cos there is a point where any amount of hp regain won't be enough to keep you alive and you need to got to other soucres like Live Vicariously + Vigorous Spirit which won't be that handy with e staff/rod

the only way i can see it working on large groups is to echo healing hands

nightrunner

nightrunner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

San Francisco

W/Mo

Here's what I use:

Cyclone Axe
Bonetti's
Symbol of Wrath
Balth's Aura
Vigorous Spirit
Live Vicariously
Mending

You could do the same with Hundred Blades instead of Cyclone - you'd just have to position yourself different.

Key to this is keeping Bonetti's and either smiting spell up as much as possible. Use Cyclone/Hundred Blades to recharge Bonetti's, which in turn keeps your energy up to cast your smite spells. When you use Cyclone to recharge Bonetti's, you also get a good healing spike from Live Vicariously and Vigorous Spirit.

BTW - I got most of this from Domidizzle, but it looks like pretty much everybody else has the same build >_<

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reve2uk
whats the max amount of ppl you can take on with a rod/staff. Cos there is a point where any amount of hp regain won't be enough to keep you alive and you need to got to other soucres like Live Vicariously + Vigorous Spirit which won't be that handy with e staff/rod

the only way i can see it working on large groups is to echo healing hands I don't use my weapon to heal, I use it to deal damage and get enchantment benefits. Healing Breeze is my only healing. Griffons are a non-issue unless you let your health drop below 50%, so as long as you manage your health there's no problem.

But then I don't just farm Griffons in Prophet's Path. I go after Devourers, Minotaurs, and Elementals too. I ask you what's the max number of Devourers at a time you can take on with a melee weapon.

Or Hydras...

I've stressed this in a previous thread, encouraging people to think outside the box and try new and different things. It really can pay off, especially since I have a feeling Griffons are gonna get nerfed soon.

Reve2uk

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/N

i like to think outside the box :O , but i nolonger farm that much with my warroir i prefee my monk means i can farm alot more places and its alot more changling

and i think i could kill that many Devourers without a staff, just equip SoJ and wait for them to kill them selfs

Nightwish

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

kvndoom, do you use an invinci-monk equivalent build on your warrior? Thats the only way that I manage to see being able to survive using healing breeze alone o.O

capitalist

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

LOL Kvndoom.. Griffons are gonna get nerfed soon? They have been nerfed, they have had their drop rate tweaked, ANET knows people farm them, etc. No flame, but its always the same solution, don't farm one area too much.

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

They're not as badly nerfed as some places, like the Talus Chute trolls. I couldn't stand to look at all those Raven Staves day after day after day. You're likely right though. As long as the farming doesn't affect the community the way the Riverside / Underworld farming did, it won't be adjusted any further. Before the Spetember patch, it was much harder to find a Monk for an actual quest / mission than it is now. Some places are still like that, but it's not as bad as before, from all I have seen.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reve2uk
i like to think outside the box :O , but i nolonger farm that much with my warroir i prefee my monk means i can farm alot more places and its alot more changling

and i think i could kill that many Devourers without a staff, just equip SoJ and wait for them to kill them selfs Right-o, the staff just helps them along their road to Judgement. But I pity the fool who runs up to a big group of them and starts swinging a sword. He'll see about 10 or 15 "-21 Dust Trap" 's appear on the screen, followed by a big "-15%" in the upper left corner. I should know. Experience is a good teacher.

Sharpe_116

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Adventurers Society

Mo/W

KVNdoom, what build do u use??? id be very interested to know

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by kvndoom
I've stressed this in a previous thread, encouraging people to think outside the box and try new and different things. It really can pay off, especially since I have a feeling Griffons are gonna get nerfed soon. Wow, I wasn't expecting it THIS soon! Hmmm...

capitalist

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

^^
They didnt get nerfed... post update it took me 5 minutes to complete the run and I had two gold items drop.

Reve2uk

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/N

so SoJ isn't nerfed but balths aura is??