Europe sucks.

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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N/Mo

Europe sucks.

Reasons for saying that:

1) no party works together
2) every party *I've* been in at Tombs of blabla have lost... (see 1)
3) almost everyone is noob

wth can't I find atleast >>>>1<<<< party that actually >>>>wins<<<< , how the hell can you get fame or rank with this crappy continent, those americans always win from these noob-parties.

Divine Elemental

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
Europe sucks.

Reasons for saying that:

1) no party works together
2) every party *I've* been in at Tombs of blabla have lost... (see 1)
3) almost everyone is noob

wth can't I find atleast >>>>1<<<< party that actually >>>>wins<<<< , how the hell can you get fame or rank with this crappy continent, those americans always win from these noob-parties.
Idiot

maybe thas why they have International Districts?
Americans Dont Always WIn.
Europe has been pretty steady in hoh for now

also
there is a Edit Account
go to there
Click Change Territory
and there we go ur in america land of the idiots
europe has some intelectual people
u can only switch 5 Times

Venus

Venus

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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Me/Mo

Mabye it is just your experience, but I think it is silly to say that "all of europe sucks."

Your steriotyping.... I have had many good experiences with europeans, and some bad ones. But the same goes for Americans and Koreans... there are anoyying people from every batch of people.

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
Idiot

maybe thas why they have International Districts?
Americans Dont Always WIn.
Europe has been pretty steady in hoh for now
The winning teams are always a few but the same guilds, I am not part of them .... how the hell can you win ?!

It pisses me off that you can't even win once here.

And it also pisses me off that those f*ckheads always want me to use other skills than I have.... I use the same skills with my PVP char and it works well... they just don't co-op with me.

Venus

Venus

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Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
The winning teams are always a few but the same guilds, I am not part of them .... how the hell can you win ?!

It pisses me off that you can't even win once here.

And it also pisses me off that those f*ckheads always want me to use other skills than I have.... I use the same skills with my PVP char and it works well... they just don't co-op with me.
Mabye you should analyse yourself and your grouping/social skills. It might be them, but it sounds like it might be you a little bit as well. (please dont take that as an insult).

It always helps me to be flexible with the people I meet/ party with.


And winning HoH was meant to be hard, it takes lots of cordination and teamwork (at least with my groups)

Divine Elemental

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
The winning teams are always a few but the same guilds, I am not part of them .... how the hell can you win ?!

It pisses me off that you can't even win once here.

And it also pisses me off that those f*ckheads always want me to use other skills than I have.... I use the same skills with my PVP char and it works well... they just don't co-op with me.
U Answer Your Own Question idiot

THEY WANT U TO CHANGE SKILLS FFS Its TEAM BASED

Duh
Felxibility Is a must in PvP (maybe execept for valk )
maybe u bring Mending and Watchful SPirit too ?

Mumoto

Mumoto

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Venus
Mabye you should analyse yourself and your grouping/social skills. It might be them, but it sounds like it might be you a little bit as well. (please dont take that as an insult).

It always helps me to be flexible with the people I meet/ party with.


And winning HoH was meant to be hard, it takes lots of cordination and teamwork (at least with my groups)
I am flexible .... trying to ask them to co-op with me ... I use skills like removing enchantments and we could kill those monks easily ... but they don't work with me ... they just attack somebody else..

it pisses me off that europe has so many dumb asses that can't even THINK for once and co-op instead of ego-tripping, thinking they can handle everything.

chippxero

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Over the last week and a bit europe pretty much holds it during the day here, it's been great for UW trips.

i think it's probably the time of day you're playing.

I think you just need to find people to practise with alot to get a good winning team.

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
U Answer Your Own Question idiot

THEY WANT U TO CHANGE SKILLS FFS Its TEAM BASED

Duh
Felxibility Is a must in PvP (maybe execept for valk )
maybe u bring Mending and Watchful SPirit too ?
They want me to use crap skills which won't work, I know cause I tried it once and everyone just died like ants.

Even if I take the best skills possible ... they f*ck it up anyways.

NekoZ

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Ugh everytime I want to go to UW or try some things out, Europe always has favor. Always. So I don't know what your complaining about.

Divine Elemental

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
They want me to use crap skills which won't work, I know cause I tried it once and everyone just died like ants.

What if i said i Use W/Mo's with Swords to win HoH
which i really did.

its Team Work
not Solo

Mumoto

Mumoto

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
what if i said i need w/mo;s and use them swords too...
which i really do.

its Team Work
not Solo

I KNOW IT'S TEAM WORK.... THAT'S WHY I'M COMPLAINING... MY SKILLS ARE GOOD.... AND WE COULD WIN IF THOSE OTHERS HELP ME FOR A SECOND TO KILL THOSE MONKS INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING ELSE LIKE TRYING TO KILL SOMEBODY WHO IS GOING TO BE HEALED BY MONKS.

Order Of Thy Sword

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Why is this thread allowed to stay open, I see bashing and hate of Americans and Europeans. I tohught that was strictly forbidden on this site.

Divine Elemental

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
I KNOW IT'S TEAM WORK.... THAT'S WHY I'M COMPLAINING... MY SKILLS ARE GOOD.... AND WE COULD WIN IF THOSE OTHERS HELP ME FOR A SECOND TO KILL THOSE MONKS INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING ELSE LIKE TRYING TO KILL SOMEBODY WHO IS GOING TO BE HEALED BY MONKS.
I Give Up Your Dumb....
Just Alt F4 T.T
UR SKILLS DONT BENEFIT THE RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING TEAM
Capish?

and not always the monk go first idiot

Mesmers,Elementalists,Etc Can Be Taken Down First Dumbass

Mumoto

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Order Of Thy Sword
Why is this thread allowed to stay open, I see bashing and hate of Americans and Europeans. I tohught that was strictly forbidden on this site.
what is wrong with bashing your OWN continent?

Alone)

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Legio Imortalii

W/Mo

Okay, look. I'm sorry you are having a bad time in HoH, but it should get better over time. I know what you mean by not having a good team, but you are probably not joining any good groups. I suggest joining a group that knows what they are doing, ie. talking strategy before hand. If it's completely random, expect it to do not so well.

I say stick to going with friends, people you know, or guildies. That's the best bet. Remember, people get better over time by working together.

Good luck to you.

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
I Give Up Your Dumb....
Just Alt F4 T.T
UR SKILLS DONT BENEFIT THE RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING TEAM
Capish?

and not always the monk go first idiot

Mesmers,Elementalists,Etc Can Be Taken Down First Dumbass
Necro's can kill monks with a bit of co-op .... but if no one co-ops they just die, ... If the monks are dead... the rest die more easily......

chris_nin00

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
I KNOW IT'S TEAM WORK.... THAT'S WHY I'M COMPLAINING... MY SKILLS ARE GOOD.... AND WE COULD WIN IF THOSE OTHERS HELP ME FOR A SECOND TO KILL THOSE MONKS INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING ELSE LIKE TRYING TO KILL SOMEBODY WHO IS GOING TO BE HEALED BY MONKS.
whoever is the leader of the dam group should be the one to make the calls...
others should make suggestions.

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alone)
Okay, look. I'm sorry you are having a bad time in HoH, but it should get better over time. I know what you mean by not having a good team, but you are probably not joining any good groups. I suggest joining a group that knows what they are doing, ie. talking strategy before hand. If it's completely random, expect it to do not so well.

I say stick to going with friends, people you know, or guildies. That's the best bet. Remember, people get better over time by working together.

Good luck to you.
Europe has problems with strategies, I always ask if they have any plans but they just go in without discussing anything.

And even if I bring in plans they don't listen.

Man With No Name

Man With No Name

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Join Date: May 2005

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W/

In all fairness, Europe is the most divided player region in Guild Wars. It's more like the UK Vs France, Germany, Spain, US and Korea -- and that's why the WoW concept is flawed.

Compare the language differences, the small geographical size to America and the fact the game didn't sell as many units in Europe.

We're bound to find more successful groups playing in the US regions, just on player numbers alone. But to claim that the players of the EU are idiots is a piece of bull.

Here's the Guild Ladder -- EU teams ARE present.

http://www.team-iq.net/forums/ladder.php

Divine Elemental

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
Europe has problems with strategies, I always ask if they have any plans but they just go in without discussing anything.

And even if I bring in plans they don't listen.
JUST ALT F4!!!SHIFT!!111


dude seriously...
i changed to Europe Continent
and i fight for Europe
but most of my team are americans so they over rule me..

as stated
Leader = Controls
Members = STFU AND Make Suggestion or Leave

Alone)

Alone)

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Legio Imortalii

W/Mo

Well, sometimes you don't even need good team work. Sometimes luck plays into it. Like going against a guild who's first time playing together in HoH. Or just the other time making some big mistakes. Remember, that it takes time to get things together. It's stressful doing the same things over and over, but have patience.

It's just that I feel that you are just in a bad place at a bad time. Europe has been kicking my ass evertime i'm on. How about organizing a group yourself? Instead of just joining?

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alone)
Well, sometimes you don't even need good team work. Sometimes luck plays into it. Like going against a guild who's first time playing together in HoH. Or just the other time making some big mistakes. Remember, that it takes time to get things together. It's stressful doing the same things over and over, but have patience.
We've played against guilds with rank 800 or something, we still lost cause everyone acted like they were superman or something and tried to kill the impossible.

Divine Elemental

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
We've played against guilds with rank 800 or something, we still lost cause everyone acted like they were superman or something and tried to kill the impossible.
I Swear T.T
if u want a good group
play a good player not a idiotic one

as im seeing u are a solo Egotistical bitch

if u just listened
and also if ud ont like europe
i suggest using International Districts 1-6

Alone)

Alone)

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Legio Imortalii

W/Mo

Well, then, keep playing. That's all I can say. I've never reached HoH myself, and I get stressed out over it. But time will come. Even if your team acts like superman, or what not, I still say to make your own team, and find out a good build that can work together. Heck, you even might want to try a Ranger spike, or even IWAY to get a better feeling for it. Unless you are already experienced in the PvP. But by saying Europe sucks, kind of says you haven't been PvPing while. That's just how I take it.

Really, it's nothing to fret over. Take charge.

Mumoto

Mumoto

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
I Swear T.T
if u want a good group
play a good player not a idiotic one

as im seeing u are a solo Egotistical bitch

if u just listened
and also if ud ont like europe
i suggest using International Districts 1-6
I'm not a solo you moooorooon because I try to bring up teamwork... but others don't listen... they're being ego.... I am ego now because I want to win atleast once? I am trying to get ranks which is almost impossible in europe or something?

I am using the same skills I am using in arena's ... sometimes I switch skills, but I've won 20 times in a row ... which 18 were flawless in those Arena things.... so it's not my skills which are the problem... the rest of the team don't work with each other which makes us lose everytime.

Farin

Farin

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You just don't listen, or read do you? Changing your build around to work along 7 other builds will always be better than having all the other seven builds switch to what you want. From what i've read, you want people to cooperate with you, while you don't cooperate at all. I'm assuming you are a necro, and yes they can kill monks, and yes they can kill any other class. BUT, if you're always going for the same monk until your team is dead then you're pretty much screwed. Monks don't always go first, not nowdays at least. Try some flexibility, it'll help in the end.

Divine Elemental

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alone)
Well, then, keep playing. That's all I can say. I've never reached HoH myself, and I get stressed out over it. But time will come. Even if your team acts like superman, or what not, I still say to make your own team, and find out a good build that can work together. Heck, you even might want to try a Ranger spike, or even IWAY to get a better feeling for it. Unless you are already experienced in the PvP. But by saying Europe sucks, kind of says you haven't been PvPing while. That's just how I take it.

Really, it's nothing to fret over. Take charge.
Exactly..
no one wanted a 13 yr old in their group <-- ME!

but then i started my own groups and have been winning hoh for quite a few
other weird builds
that people dont even wanna use my builds but then after winning and my name showing they keep whispering me about joining the group... so Start ur own if ur Competent

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alone)
Well, then, keep playing. That's all I can say. I've never reached HoH myself, and I get stressed out over it. But time will come. Even if your team acts like superman, or what not, I still say to make your own team, and find out a good build that can work together. Heck, you even might want to try a Ranger spike, or even IWAY to get a better feeling for it. Unless you are already experienced in the PvP. But by saying Europe sucks, kind of says you haven't been PvPing while. That's just how I take it.

Really, it's nothing to fret over. Take charge.
If Europe doesn't suck, how come America has favor more than Europe?

It's not only the ammount of guilds.... l33t players in a guild can own every other guild ...there is always 1 superior guild... it doesn't matter what place it is in ... 8 members who kick ass ...

calamitykell

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
We've played against guilds with rank 800 or something, we still lost cause everyone acted like they were superman or something and tried to kill the impossible.
Reading through your posts in this thread, one can assume that you are, hands down, the best player in europe.

I say that's bullshit right there. You're probably why your teams lose. You say you're flexible, but they never follow your plans, so you lose. Wow, what a contradiction.

I apologize to Europe on your behalf, because you're just a dumbass.

Divine Elemental

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
I'm not a solo you moooorooon because I try to bring up teamwork... but others don't listen... they're being ego.... I am ego now because I want to win atleast once? I am trying to get ranks which is almost impossible in europe or something?

I am using the same skills I am using in arena's ... sometimes I switch skills, but I've won 20 times in a row ... which 18 were flawless in those Arena things.... so it's not my skills which are the problem... the rest of the team don't work with each other which makes us lose everytime.
Team Arenas easy to win...
dude just alt f4 T.T

Vermilion Okeanos

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Join Date: Feb 2005

This kind of topic... again...? sigh...

Is it just me or informative topics are becoming beyound just rare? I guess there are just not that many things to figure out about GW any more.

PS: the new update on forum for editing is awesome.

chris_nin00

chris_nin00

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R/

Age doesn't matter how I play...
It's either they know or they don't know
Simple as that.

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by RaZoO
You just don't listen, or read do you? Changing your build around to work along 7 other builds will always be better than having all the other seven builds switch to what you want. From what i've read, you want people to cooperate with you, while you don't cooperate at all. I'm assuming you are a necro, and yes they can kill monks, and yes they can kill any other class. BUT, if you're always going for the same monk until your team is dead then you're pretty much screwed. Monks don't always go first, not nowdays at least. Try some flexibility, it'll help in the end.
I'm adjusting my build everytime, but in the end if they don't have any plans ... what is the use of changing your build if the rest is unknown?

And no I'm not always going for the monks... it's just that if you don't get rid of the monks ... damaging others won't help a thing....

Divine Elemental

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Quote:
Originally Posted by chris_nin00
Age doesn't matter how I play...
It's either they know or they don't know
Simple as that.
Most Poeple Think Im Idiot cause im 13 and dont know what im doing but i make them eat their words


and to OP

ill just see how much Comments peopel will post to u

Divine Elemental

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
I'm adjusting my build everytime, but in the end if they don't have any plans ... what is the use of changing your build if the rest is unknown?
your group leader is non competent

then if u want to join a group and win
start your own group

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
Most Poeple Think Im Idiot cause im 13 and dont know what im doing but i make them eat their words


and to OP

ill just see how much Comments peopel will post to u
don't forget the profession-discrimination in Guild Wars.

Alone)

Alone)

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Legio Imortalii

W/Mo

It's not just a matter of changing build. And Mumoto, maybe it's just that the time you are playing at isn't the time that most people that do have a lot of experience are on. *shrugs* I say just don't the flames here, go back on Guild Wars and play as much as you like. Just don't get stressed too much over it. It takes times.

smurfhunter v2

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

best way to reach rank 3-6:

make your own groups
play with people you know/trust (dont know anyone? play a bit longer and you will)
get a decent build (iway is not a decent build fyi)
be persistant

i say its the best way because thats how i did it

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
your group leader is non competent

then if u want to join a group and win
start your own group
The problem is I'm pretty much new to Tombs of bla thing... I've played like 10 times and won.... zero.

not only that I'm not fit to be a leader, but If i'm suggesting something and they don't try to work along... what can you do ?

What's the use if everyone attacks somebody and it doesn't do damage and the party dies off.