Europe can't win because of bad teamplay

Alone)

Alone)

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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Legio Imortalii

W/Mo

Mumoto. Most of the people here are over 15. But the posts before have stated what it looks like what you are doing. It doesn't take much to be a leader of the group. Group people, start mission. It's not just that your group can't even kill one, it's just that how you started it off was bad. Just need to play more, that's all. And what, how many weeks have been trying HoH?

Oh, and I'm sorry. But the 15 year old quote I have to go against. There are 5 year olds who can read better than most people can. And my 9 year old brother is more mature than some 20 year olds I know in Guild Wars. Just what I see, my preference.

But really, continue on with the game. And good luck.

And I can assure you that Divine Elemental has the capability of reading.

Mumoto

Mumoto

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by chris_nin00
I'm 5 years old! Got a problem?

Maybe it's you, maybe you can't play... that's probably why you lose so much.
I've played in other places and I am usually the one that survives because I have experience, you're making me the scapegoat of all the teams I've been in while I am the one trying to co-operate with any plans they make.

If we lose it's the whole team not just one person.

Divine Elemental

Divine Elemental

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Join Date: May 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by chris_nin00
I'm 5 years old! Got a problem?

Maybe it's you, maybe you can't play... that's probably why you lose so much.
Quoted For Truth

if u cant win dont go and cry here at guru
if your not competent enough to start a group...
nor NOT FLEXIBLE
and is egotistic..
well i pretty much say
Sorry For You

Mumoto

Mumoto

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alone)
Mumoto. Most of the people here are over 15. But the posts before have stated what it looks like what you are doing. It doesn't take much to be a leader of the group. Group people, start mission. It's not just that your group can't even kill one, it's just that how you started it off was bad. Just need to play more, that's all. And what, how many weeks have been trying HoH?

Oh, and I'm sorry. But the 15 year old quote I have to go against. There are 5 year olds who can read better than most people can. And my 9 year old brother is more mature than some 20 year olds I know in Guild Wars. Just what I see, my preference.

But really, continue on with the game. And good luck.

And I can assure you that Divine Elemental has the capability of reading.
I like age-discrimination as much as everyone likes profession / rank and other kinds of discrimination.

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

As a player, I can say that the best course of action is to try to devote most of your energy to finding a guild that you can play with. Teamwork is something that can be refined as you play again and again with the same people, but it's incredibly difficult to have the same synergy with a random pickup group, which is why many pickups lose.

If you can look around the cities for guild invites, or run missions and ask the mature players if they're interested in letting you join, then you can probably accomplish this.

I've lost every time I've played in tombs with pickups, simply because there was no communication going on, and I didn't know who was doing what on my team half the time because they'd always rush in.

It does take time, and the best you can do toward winning is refining your strategy with a good group of friends, or a guild. Therefore, finding this group should be your first priority. While people can get lucky with pickups in ToPK, that's a random draw every time you join a group, while having the same group over and over will lead to an overall INCREASE in that probability of winning.

Divine Elemental

Divine Elemental

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Join Date: May 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
I like age-discrimination as much as everyone likes profession / rank and other kinds of discrimination.
LoL
Thank You Alone
if you want advice take it dont deny it

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
Quoted For Truth

if u cant win dont go and cry here at guru
if your not competent enough to start a group...
nor NOT FLEXIBLE
and is egotistic..
well i pretty much say
Sorry For You
Again read back (3rd time)

I am flexible, I am ego ofcourse... I want to win ... that's a desire, atleast I'm not acting like other people do ...

Divine Elemental

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
Again read back (3rd time)

I am flexible, I am ego ofcourse... I want to win ... that's a desire, atleast I'm not acting like other people do ...
Flexible enough not to listen to the Team Build?

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
LoL
Thank You Alone
if you want advice take it dont deny it
The problem is the advice you're trying to give is not for me, you don't read the whole thread so you don't know how I play and how I describe myself.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
Flexible enough not to listen to the Team Build?
Yes, but it's hard if the rest doesn't make any tactic-plans, Can't change my skills if I don't know what others are planning to do.

Alone)

Alone)

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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Legio Imortalii

W/Mo

Okay, look. Most of us on here gave us pointers on what we thought that you could do to help improve you. Yet, you come back with your other experiences and haven't really tried them again yet, and started from scratch again. As Divine said. Most of the time when we try to say something, and you quote it, it's completely something that is not on-topic.

And everyone discriminates. As in making choices on what you prefer. But I say it's better if you be a bit more open-minded first.

Divine Elemental

Divine Elemental

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Join Date: May 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
The problem is the advice you're trying to give is not for me, you don't read the whole thread so you don't know how I play and how I describe myself.
not to be harsh
you describe yourself to be a total Loser/n00b
srry Lasareth
this will be my last post am tired of giving advices
1 last Advice
GET SOME EXPERIENCE IN TOMBS

Ill Just Watch How U Take Other People's Advice

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
not to be harsh
you describe yourself to be a total Loser/n00b
srry Lasareth
this will be my last post am tired of giving advices
1 last Advice
GET SOME EXPERIENCE IN TOMBS

lol advice, you call scolding advice? hahaha you're weird you know

Read back (4th time) <-- aka Rank Discrimination

chris_nin00

chris_nin00

Dun dun dun

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Maybe it is you, maybe you have bad luck with guild wars...
Try a single player game, where the only person you can blame is yourself.

Whosaidwhatnow

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
Can't ... am too competetive to let this just get over me.

Two options that I can see:

1. Learn how to be a leader, form teams yourself, ask them questions to ensure they really do know what they're doing.


2. Switch to the American server. You can do this a certain amount of times, I believe its 6. It's somewhere in your options or setup menu, poke around a bit and you'll find it. My copy was set up for Euro, and I switched to American, so I know it can be done. You obviously speak English, communication won't be a problem, so go ahead and do it if you think its a good idea. Personally I think once you switch you'll long to get away from THE OMFG LAWL NOOBZ U SUXXORX type and end up playing on the European server again. American teams can be just as bad and frustrating to play in.

Most of the time I log on these days its a toss up which nation will hold favor. It used to be the US all the time and now I see Europe and Korea holding it a lot. Do what you will, but please don't tell me Europe is clueless, that's way too big of a generalization.

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by chris_nin00
Maybe it is you, maybe you have bad luck with guild wars...
Try a single player game, where the only person you can blame is yourself.
Your advice is so funny, but useless again.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Whosaidwhatnow
Two options that I can see:

1. Learn how to be a leader, form teams yourself, ask them questions to ensure they really do know what they're doing.


2. Switch to the American server. You can do this a certain amount of times, I believe its 6. It's somewhere in your options or setup menu, poke around a bit and you'll find it. My copy was set up for Euro, and I switched to American, so I know it can be done. You obviously speak English, communication won't be a problem, so go ahead and do it if you think its a good idea. Personally I think once you switch you'll long to get away from THE OMFG LAWL NOOBZ U SUXXORX type and end up playing on the European server again. American teams can be just as bad and frustrating to play in.

Most of the time I log on these days its a toss up which nation will hold favor. It used to be the US all the time and now I see Europe and Korea holding it a lot. Do what you will, but please don't tell me Europe is clueless, that's way too big of a generalization.
American servers lag for me so no option for me.

Alone)

Alone)

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Legio Imortalii

W/Mo

Mumoto, his advice wasn't useless. He was stating what he is seeing you as a player. You don't have to switch to american servers, but you can go around a bit and switch to maybe Korea? Or just spend time getting people togehter and playing.

chris_nin00

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
Your advice is so funny, but useless again.
I try.
but its not useless...

Last post on this useless topic.

Savio

Savio

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alone)
You don't have to switch to american servers, but you can go around a bit and switch to maybe Korea?
Random fact of the day: you can only switch between American and European servers, not to Korean servers.


My contribution: PUGs suck, get friends or a guild.


Mod statement: keep this discussion polite.

Alone)

Alone)

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Legio Imortalii

W/Mo

Welp, this discussion is going nowhere, again.

Good luck to you Mumoto. And I do hope you learned something from the posts.

Perishiko ReLLiK

Perishiko ReLLiK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Divine Guardians of the Soul (Soul)

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
Europe can't win because of bad teamplay.

Does any European know what teamplay is ?

I am a European and I will co-op with anyone, but they never discuss tactics or anything.

Don't ask me for making tactics because I don't know what skills everybody should use... nor do I think I'm capable to be the leader.
Lots of people don't... I'd suggest getting into a good guild.

Besides, Europe can win, and lately they've had it a little more then America

neoteo

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Macau

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i dont know if anyone said this before on this thread , but a simple solution for you is

change territory.

Former Ruling

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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R/

I am with Mumoto on the fact that a country cannot be judged by the 4-5 Guilds that win HoH most often from that country.

Thats like saying all American's are rich because Bill Gates lives here >_>

But the poor grouping is an international thing..you got to get a guild thats already in a higher percental to basically move yourself up.

Guillaume De Sonoma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

aFk

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Mumoto it seems that you won't take any advice from anyone. Every time someone has tried to help you you tell them they aren't old enough or its useless. Nothing's useless unless you can't find a way to use it. You have had a lot of people try to help you and you have rejected each and every one of their ideas, which are all good.

Guillaume De Sonoma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

aFk

Me/Rt

Oh I guess he made lasareth unhappy because his post dissapeared. Anyways just stop talking about flamming it doesn't get anywhere so just go get a guild.

chippxero

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norfolk

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Mo/Me

Yeah the title of the thread isn't really anything to do with the content.

Europe win a fair bit these days.

title should have been 'Can't find a good team for HoH'

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

and I'm not taking useless advice like moving to American servers because

IT LAGS IT LAGS
IT LAGS IT LAGS
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and like I said about finding guild

IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD
IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD
IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD
IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD
IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD
IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD
IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD
IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD
IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD IT'S HARD TO FIND A GOOD GUILD


Trying a singleplayer game
DOESN'T HELP ME WITH GUILD WARS AT ALL DOESN'T HELP ME WITH GUILD WARS AT ALL
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DOESN'T HELP ME WITH GUILD WARS AT ALL DOESN'T HELP ME WITH GUILD WARS AT ALL
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DOESN'T HELP ME WITH GUILD WARS AT ALL DOESN'T HELP ME WITH GUILD WARS AT ALL
DOESN'T HELP ME WITH GUILD WARS AT ALL DOESN'T HELP ME WITH GUILD WARS AT ALL

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

I've been trying to keep this topic together for the sakes of the people who are in the same situation and are looking for alternatives.

Divine, Mumoto, it's apparent you don't like each other. Please take it to PMs or some other form of communication, but don't quarrel in the forums.

Guillaume De Sonoma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

aFk

Me/Rt

Then start a guild you have to be willing to work to have an enjoyable experence in GW a good time will not be handed to you. Please just take someones advice you have not agreed with anyone in the last 60 posts about solutions to your problem.

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guillaume De Sonoma
Then start a guild you have to be willing to work to have an enjoyable experence in GW a good time will not be handed to you. Please just take someones advice you have not agreed with anyone in the last 60 posts about solutions to your problem.
Sure I'll take the singeplayer game advice, helps me a lot in guild wars.
Not; because I'm posting this regards GW.

Sure I'll take the go to american server advice, helps me a lot in guild wars.
Not; because IT lags.

Sure I'll take the find Good guild advice, helps me a lot.
Not; because guilds don't have a mark on them saying --> 'Good Guild'.

Sure I'll take the make your own guild advice, helps me a lot.
Not; Because everytime I invite people they end up leaving, ... waste of gold because people want guilds with 30+ members and members that give them money / items.

Guillaume De Sonoma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

aFk

Me/Rt

Then join one seriouly there is a guild form here so you can try there or search the guild database here. The people here have put a lot of time into it.

Alone)

Alone)

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Join Date: Sep 2005

Campbell, California

Legio Imortalii

W/Mo

It seems like you still haven't looked at all the other advice. We're still going in circles! We are back to square one. I don't know whether to take you seriously or not Mumoto. It saddens me that I took some time into helping you, as with others, and got nowhere. There are LOTS of great points, it still seems you over look them. And instead of applying it, you lash back, creating more of a conflict instead.