Open letter to anet
mioga
Every other mmo online has farming. Why would you mess it up? I have seen allot of people already a few hours after the update saying that they are going to go to wow or a diff mmo. I can see how you guys would want to make the money balanced, but now people are going to look for alternative ways to get money for the "high end" equipment i.e. eBay. I just don't understand why you would mess it up. So many people are probably going to leave because that was the only thing they liked to do. I myself am one of them. I used to play wow, Diablo, and Diablo II. I quit those games because I got tired of fighting monsters over and over and still never getting anything good. That was the appeal of this game. The build to farm was easy and after doing it enough I got the hang of it. This
is how I was able to start a guild and afford to make decent char to play. I may play this game for a while more but then after I get bored with it I will probably go back to a different game. It makes me sad I have spent so many hours playing this game and enjoyed every minute of it. And now it seems that it was all just time wasted getting enough money to buy equipment and runes. Now it is just going to go to waste because I won't be able to use it. I am not sure if I will even attempt the second chapter of this game because of all of this. I don't make enough money in real life to waste on eBay buying gold so I can buy weapon upgrades and fissure armor or even armor from grotto or citadel. I guess you do have hopes that it will drive prices for things down but it is still
going to be much more then the average player will be able to afford. As I have said at the begging of this letter every mmo has farming. Why go and mess up something that doesn’t even need messed with?
Jeremy
is how I was able to start a guild and afford to make decent char to play. I may play this game for a while more but then after I get bored with it I will probably go back to a different game. It makes me sad I have spent so many hours playing this game and enjoyed every minute of it. And now it seems that it was all just time wasted getting enough money to buy equipment and runes. Now it is just going to go to waste because I won't be able to use it. I am not sure if I will even attempt the second chapter of this game because of all of this. I don't make enough money in real life to waste on eBay buying gold so I can buy weapon upgrades and fissure armor or even armor from grotto or citadel. I guess you do have hopes that it will drive prices for things down but it is still
going to be much more then the average player will be able to afford. As I have said at the begging of this letter every mmo has farming. Why go and mess up something that doesn’t even need messed with?
Jeremy
Loviatar
you join and make one cut/paste post on every site
go away troll
go away troll
mioga
just doing what anet told me to do when i sent the letter to them
Sol_Vie
Farming is boring. Figure out a new way. My warrior can still do it without using AoE. He never did and never will. Figure out a new way.
*agrees with Loviatar*
*agrees with Loviatar*
Shadowspawn X
Please stop crying. Find another way to farm, try doing the quests for a change.
Also, nobodys going anywhere these whiners never got more value in any other game in their lives. Not only will they be back for chapter 2, but they wil be back for chapter 1 tonight or tomorrow as soon as they get off work/school or home from the bar/party tonight. These guys arn't going anywhere.
Also, nobodys going anywhere these whiners never got more value in any other game in their lives. Not only will they be back for chapter 2, but they wil be back for chapter 1 tonight or tomorrow as soon as they get off work/school or home from the bar/party tonight. These guys arn't going anywhere.
Tactical-Dillusions
Good job Mioga.
I think these are the answers you are looking for....
Buffed AI to stamp out the majority of botters who largely use AoE to farm insane amounts of gold.
Made rangers, mesmers, necro's and "other elements" jump inside the box...since people are incapable of thinking outside of it.
Now most players are on an equal footing since AoE is as good as dead.
I think these are the answers you are looking for....
Buffed AI to stamp out the majority of botters who largely use AoE to farm insane amounts of gold.
Made rangers, mesmers, necro's and "other elements" jump inside the box...since people are incapable of thinking outside of it.
Now most players are on an equal footing since AoE is as good as dead.
Sol_Vie
AoE is hardly dead. Just find new ways to implement it.
GW_1337
Trappers just went down the porciline ficture... is Anet anti rangers or something? seems like every update nerfs them or affects them somehow... even when targeted at another class... R/N used to be a good build... now I cannot kill anything... Yes i have tried changing secondary but with the skill cost increase it is a waste of my money to pay 1k a skill when i could build a new character and get them all from quests.
Another thing is after I have all my skills for my lvl 20 char xp just became completley useless... my primary character has almost 900k xp... what am I going to do with all of that?
Another thing is after I have all my skills for my lvl 20 char xp just became completley useless... my primary character has almost 900k xp... what am I going to do with all of that?
streetboy
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Originally Posted by Sol_Vie
Farming is boring. Figure out a new way. My warrior can still do it without using AoE. He never did and never will. Figure out a new way.
*agrees with Loviatar* |
Sol_Vie
Ok, but my point still stands even removing the "Farming is boring" bit. Even the average player has the ability to think.
Yamat
Please just delete this thread.
Hanuman li Tosh
why play a game with terrible ai? whats the point? they made tha ai more realistic and everybody is complaining. heres my open letter to anet:
Kudos!
Kudos!
streetboy
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Originally Posted by Sol_Vie
Ok, but my point still stands even removing the "Farming is boring" bit. Even the average player has the ability to think.
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Edgam20
Only reason people say farming is boring, and it's good that they took that away, is because they could never get drops, nor money, and they are newbs and don't know how to play real rpgs games, farming is a part of games and life, get over it :l
mioga
Why delete this thread? anet told me to post this. Hello Jeremy,
Thank you for contacting Guild Wars Support about this.
Discussion Thread
Response (GM Mevrick) 11/10/2005 10:47 PM
Hello Jeremy,
Thank you for contacting Guild Wars Support about this.
We encourage you to consider posting your suggestions on one of many of the Guild Wars Fansite message boards. A compiled list can be found on the official Guild Wars website at http://guildwars.com/community/default.html. By posting on one of these message boards, other players can comment on your ideas, concerns, and suggestions, and Development Team members are able to catch up on what the community wants to see in Guild Wars. Fansite forums make it easy and efficient for us to learn from those playing the game.
Thank you for your efforts in assisting us to create the best gaming experience possible.
Regards,
The Guild Wars Support Team
Thank you for contacting Guild Wars Support about this.
Discussion Thread
Response (GM Mevrick) 11/10/2005 10:47 PM
Hello Jeremy,
Thank you for contacting Guild Wars Support about this.
We encourage you to consider posting your suggestions on one of many of the Guild Wars Fansite message boards. A compiled list can be found on the official Guild Wars website at http://guildwars.com/community/default.html. By posting on one of these message boards, other players can comment on your ideas, concerns, and suggestions, and Development Team members are able to catch up on what the community wants to see in Guild Wars. Fansite forums make it easy and efficient for us to learn from those playing the game.
Thank you for your efforts in assisting us to create the best gaming experience possible.
Regards,
The Guild Wars Support Team
streetboy
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Originally Posted by Hanuman li Tosh
why play a game with terrible ai? whats the point? they made tha ai more realistic and everybody is complaining. heres my open letter to anet:
Kudos! |
Sol_Vie
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Originally Posted by Edgam20
Only reason people say farming is boring, and it's good that they took that away, is because they could never get drops, nor money, and they are newbs and don't know how to play real rpgs games, farming is a part of games and life, get over it :l
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And streetboy? Np ^_^
Edgam20
Farming is slower and annoying, and playing a ele is impossible, how is it that they are gonna run away from you when they attack, for god sake it's a war and they are running away... never knew we were fighthing cowards, and about farming, MMO's always have a way to farm, now that they changed it stuff is gonna be expensive and then u guys will start crying, gG? no rm..
Order Of Thy Sword
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Originally Posted by Yamat
Please just delete this thread.
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This (for the most part) is America, where we are free to discuss what we want.
Sol_Vie
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Originally Posted by Edgam20
Farming is slower and annoying, and playing a ele is impossible, how is it that they are gonna run away from you when they attack, for god sake it's a war and they are running away... never knew we were fighthing cowards, and about farming, MMO's always have a way to farm, now that they changed it stuff is gonna be expensive and then u guys will start crying, gG? no rm..
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Zaklex
Guild Wars is not an MMO, period, never has been, never will be, it is and will always be a C(COMPETITIVE)On-line[semi]RPG.
Zexion
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Originally Posted by Sol_Vie
So if you're playing your elementalist and some Ice Fiend outside Drok's/Ice Caves casts Maelstrom on you you're just going to stand there and take it? Come on now, you'd move! Especially because maelstrom interrupts! Now why would we think that these monsters that we face would be any different? One of the main goals in life is to seek pleasure and avoid pain. By moving, they're avoiding pain. It makes sense what they're doing...:
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I sure hope the answer is no, else you're stupider than I expected.
And you know what? The AI as it is now does that!
THIS is why the new update sucks.
So stop the "make a better build" whining. I have made a list for my clan about skills affected by this, and it is HUGE! Nearing 50-70 skills. And only a small fraction of them is DoT (damage over time, skills like firestorm and symbol of wrath) skills.
So stop saying the new AI is good.
_Zexion
streetboy
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Originally Posted by Sol_Vie
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By moving, they're avoiding pain. It makes sense what they're doing...: |
Like I said, there are two type of players in GW, PRO and AVERAGE, most of PRO are already in PVP, AVERAGE are in PVE. My guild started with PVP, but more PVE players joined after summer, most of them don't even know how to interrupt (actively) monsters, only know maelstrom (passive) will interrupt their spell. I have seen the reactions from those players, and they logoff the game quickly last night.
Why does ANet kill it's own customer base? which still make me confused
Mr D J
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Originally Posted by Sol_Vie
Farming is boring. Figure out a new way. My warrior can still do it without using AoE. He never did and never will. Figure out a new way.
*agrees with Loviatar* |
but can ur warrior kill aatxes without aoe?? they have 1.4k hp and regen...
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by mioga
It makes me sad I have spent so many hours playing this game and enjoyed every minute of it. And now it seems that it was all just time wasted getting enough money to buy equipment and runes. Now it is just going to go to waste because I won't be able to use it. I am not sure if I will even attempt the second chapter of this game because of all of this.
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you had i lot of fun for a very long time but now all that previous fun has somehow been taken?
if you had a lot of fun say i had a lot of fun and now i will try something else.
dont go i had a really good time but all my fun was a waste of time.
Hanuman li Tosh
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Originally Posted by Zaklex
Guild Wars is not an MMO, period, never has been, never will be, it is and will always be a C(COMPETITIVE)On-line[semi]RPG.
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Sure, like I said, play PVP against real people instead. |
honestly, i have seen people not move out of the aoe many many times. i think that pretty much says a lot about ai vs actual intelligence.
streetboy
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
right here is why i am both totally pissed and also pity you.
you had i lot of fun for a very long time but now all that previous fun has somehow been taken? if you had a lot of fun say i had a lot of fun and now i will try something else. dont go i had a really good time but all my fun was a waste of time. |
Yamat
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Originally Posted by Order Of Thy Sword
That is one of the main problems afflicting this website, people who are WAY TO FAST on the "delete-lock-close" buttons.
This (for the most part) is America, where we are free to discuss what we want. |
Victory Gaint
Yes but anet wanted to decrease profits from their game.
streetboy
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Originally Posted by Hanuman li Tosh
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honestly, i have seen people not move out of the aoe many many times. i think that pretty much says a lot about ai vs actual intelligence. |
Pandora's box
Opp: I understand your frustration and I agree that the pve section of this game is very poor. Basicly all encounters are the same: group of monsters with some fighters, a healer and a mesmer/necro to dispell, counter or drain. No flying dragons around, hordes of ghouls, fire elementals and so on. Its like the game engine cant handle sophisticated actions, so everything is a poorly worked oud duplication of a basic action with only some extra power added. No wonder that clever builds can easily slay the game engine. Causing a never ending downwards spiral of attemps to make things more difficult by exploiting the little recources the game engine offers.
Nevertheless there lies some challenge in trying to keep slaying the nerfing system. I adapted a slower build of farming long ago, and it stills serves me, even after this change
As for the expansion, I think many people out of the million who bought the original game will give it a try if its not too expensive. That means Arenanet can afford it to follow its own direction. Maybe that's a shame because players can't slamb their fist on the table and demand things. Anyway, even I still play lod these days as every new update there adds some new items, so allways keep in mind that there are other games too... But as for me: its ok if people keep trying to improve pve, even if it implies giving negative reactions
Nevertheless there lies some challenge in trying to keep slaying the nerfing system. I adapted a slower build of farming long ago, and it stills serves me, even after this change
As for the expansion, I think many people out of the million who bought the original game will give it a try if its not too expensive. That means Arenanet can afford it to follow its own direction. Maybe that's a shame because players can't slamb their fist on the table and demand things. Anyway, even I still play lod these days as every new update there adds some new items, so allways keep in mind that there are other games too... But as for me: its ok if people keep trying to improve pve, even if it implies giving negative reactions
828168
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Originally Posted by Victory Gaint
Yes but anet wanted to decrease profits from their game.
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Savio
We don't need another complaint thread. Closed.