GW Cheat Programs?
Wretchman Drake
Today quite a few people in the Comp. Arenas were talking about people who use cheat programs called 'shadowing' or something where you can't take damage. People are saying they finally were able to hit PvP Arenas now, which sucks if it's true. Anyone think it is?
D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E
a total trap I'm betting.
did they ever fight? or just spam about zOMG I DONT TAKE DMG LAWL
did they ever fight? or just spam about zOMG I DONT TAKE DMG LAWL
Wretchman Drake
no alot of people were talking about it today, probably like 10 districts of people were talking about it. It is possible, there are cheats and hacks out there, how do you think people get money to sell? they obviously use some hack cuz I can't see someone farming day and night as their daily job, including that now farming has been nerfed for some dumb reason 
Mr D J
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Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake
Today quite a few people in the Comp. Arenas were talking about people who use cheat programs called 'shadowing' or something where you can't take damage. People are saying they finally were able to hit PvP Arenas now, which sucks if it's true. Anyone think it is?
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also people who were saying it were probably bots who got their account stolen and now they are spamming it...
D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E
eh they'll be cought and banned if anything at all; watch the PvP community decrease by 1/3rd
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake
no alot of people were talking about it today, probably like 10 districts of people were talking about it. It is possible, there are cheats and hacks out there, how do you think people get money to sell? they obviously use some hack cuz I can't see someone farming day and night as their daily job, including that now farming has been nerfed for some dumb reason
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i dont farm all day and have never solt except to the trader and still have a half mil. the secret is dont buy anything expensive, save/salvage everything and eventually you have gold. i am saving up for chapter 2 goodies
no they dont use hacks as those are stopped server side
what you get is a keylogger and as people have posted , lost, stolen accounts
projectnavi
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Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake
Today quite a few people in the Comp. Arenas were talking about people who use cheat programs called 'shadowing' or something where you can't take damage. People are saying they finally were able to hit PvP Arenas now, which sucks if it's true. Anyone think it is?
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yeah, i've been called a cheater in 4vs4 arena...
here's my trick : droknar armor, max lvl for arena you are in, absorb rune, knight armor piece, physical resitance (mesmer spell).
so that gives me 140 AL, -5 damage from absorb.
makes me get ALOT of -0 damage, and alot of complains.
if you check how the damage and armor works in GW, you will easily understand how to get near 0 damage. 140AL makes you receive something close to 25% damage, if i remember correctly. so the guy needs to hit me for more than 20 damage in order to deal 1 point of damage. if he hits over 20 damage, i start taking damage slowly. lets say i receive a critical hit for 50, i will only receive 7 damage.
i enjoy it pretty much, i missed my counter-strike days where i would get banned for "hacking" twice a day.
Josh
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
i dont farm all day and have never solt except to the trader and still have a half mil. the secret is dont buy anything expensive, save/salvage everything and eventually you have gold. i am saving up for chapter 2 goodies no they dont use hacks as those are stopped server side what you get is a keylogger and as people have posted , lost, stolen accounts |
aron searle
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Its a shame the econmy is rubbish.
super vigour and super absorb, oh there goes nearly 2/3rds of half a mill.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by aron searle
well done
Its a shame the econmy is rubbish. super vigour and super absorb, oh there goes nearly 2/3rds of half a mill. |
i use a major vigor which is almost as good and costs a small fraction except that i get enough of them so i can (and do) give them away (only have 4 kicking around on a mule at the moment)
Whosaidwhatnow
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Originally Posted by projectnavi
yeah, i've been called a cheater in 4vs4 arena...
here's my trick : droknar armor, max lvl for arena you are in, absorb rune, knight armor piece, physical resitance (mesmer spell). so that gives me 140 AL, -5 damage from absorb. makes me get ALOT of -0 damage, and alot of complains. if you check how the damage and armor works in GW, you will easily understand how to get near 0 damage. 140AL makes you receive 37% damage, if i remember correctly. so the guy needs to hit me for more than 20 damage in order to deal 1 point of damage. if he hits over 20 damage, i start taking damage slowly. lets say i receive a critical hit for 50, i will only receive 7 damage. i enjoy it pretty much, i missed my counter-strike days where i would get banned for "hacking" twice a day. |
Thats funny... because I have full knights, superior absorb, I can put on kinetic aura and armor of earth, and I STILL take damage. Not a lot of melee damage, but its certainly not so little that people would ever think I'm "cheating"... unless you're taking Droks into Ascalon Arena (which would make you a total cheesedick) I don't see how its possible that anyone would go "OMFG CHEATER" or anything of the sort... a couple of spikers going at you, sayonara pal, armor or no armor.
To the OP: I'm not sure whether or not these programs work, I've never had the urge to cheat so I'll never know first-hand... but if these programs are a reality, they won't be around for long. The first time a team comes across some omnipotent guy taking no damage, they'll document the whole thing and send it to an ANet rep before you can say "LAWL NOOBZ". They'll ban him, fix whatever exploit allows this program to work, and it will be business as usual.
I hate ANet for messing with PvE, but I have to say they know their bread is buttered on the PvP side and they keep it about as balanced as its possible to be. Cheaters might get a little fame or faction for a day or two, but they'll probably get banned, cry, and buy another copy of the game for another $50 bucks... so its a win/win situation all around.
Dahl
I get called a cheater all the time on my prot monk :P Just because 3 wars can't take me down, doesn't mean I hack. I just know what I'm doing and they don't know what they're doing. Simple. Brush it off, the second it's proven is the second it'll be nullified by ANet.
And.. Whosaidwhatnow, it's because full knight armor isnt any good. having reduce damage on one piece covers your whole body, and doesn't stack with other knight items, only another rune. The only damage reduction that will stack is a shield, 1 rune, and 1 knight piece.
So think of how likely each piece is of getting hit, arms and legs take the least number of hits. Arms however apparently have an increased chance in getting hit by magic. So wear Knight boots only, and the rest something like plate mail maybe. That's what I do. And maybe have dragon gloves or something that reduces magic better.
Remember: Armor = defence vs. EVERYTHING. Armor vs. physical is ONLY physical. so a body armor with 60 defence and 10 defence against physical will have more magic defence than an armor with 50 def and 25 vs physical. This is just an example, there are no armors with exactly those stats, but just look around and you'll get it.
ps. 40 armor = half damage.
meaning skills like "Watch Yourself!" Gives you 20 def, cutting your damage by a quarter.
PlateMail suit +
Knight boots +
-dmg shield +
absorb rune +
watch yourself +
Physical Resistance (mes skill, +40 armor) =
A lottt of def.. added together it should look like this:
Total Dmg = Monsters damage (Cut in half almost 4 times) - 7 damage.
I know it doesn't look very well put together but I wanted to make it easy to understand.
And.. Whosaidwhatnow, it's because full knight armor isnt any good. having reduce damage on one piece covers your whole body, and doesn't stack with other knight items, only another rune. The only damage reduction that will stack is a shield, 1 rune, and 1 knight piece.
So think of how likely each piece is of getting hit, arms and legs take the least number of hits. Arms however apparently have an increased chance in getting hit by magic. So wear Knight boots only, and the rest something like plate mail maybe. That's what I do. And maybe have dragon gloves or something that reduces magic better.
Remember: Armor = defence vs. EVERYTHING. Armor vs. physical is ONLY physical. so a body armor with 60 defence and 10 defence against physical will have more magic defence than an armor with 50 def and 25 vs physical. This is just an example, there are no armors with exactly those stats, but just look around and you'll get it.
ps. 40 armor = half damage.
meaning skills like "Watch Yourself!" Gives you 20 def, cutting your damage by a quarter.
PlateMail suit +
Knight boots +
-dmg shield +
absorb rune +
watch yourself +
Physical Resistance (mes skill, +40 armor) =
A lottt of def.. added together it should look like this:
Total Dmg = Monsters damage (Cut in half almost 4 times) - 7 damage.
I know it doesn't look very well put together but I wanted to make it easy to understand.
projectnavi
yeah, my post was really only about physical damage.
i get hit pretty hard by ele damage, mainly if i was dumb enough to start Physical Resistance when the target of an ele.
and no, i don't do ascalon arena...i go to Yak's one...and yes, i bring drok armor there...and i since i fight against 90% + of foes that have drok armor, i don't feel too bad about it.
but even in yak's arena, 140 AL vs physical gotta be annoying to rangers and warriors trying to 1vs1 me (not that I care about their game, i go about with my targets anyway since they deal very little damage). we're talking about receiving less than 25% the damage he can get, - 5 absorb.
every time you get into online gaming, you are bound to get in noob's way that call anything they don't understand a cheat. just learn how the game is built.
i get hit pretty hard by ele damage, mainly if i was dumb enough to start Physical Resistance when the target of an ele.
and no, i don't do ascalon arena...i go to Yak's one...and yes, i bring drok armor there...and i since i fight against 90% + of foes that have drok armor, i don't feel too bad about it.
but even in yak's arena, 140 AL vs physical gotta be annoying to rangers and warriors trying to 1vs1 me (not that I care about their game, i go about with my targets anyway since they deal very little damage). we're talking about receiving less than 25% the damage he can get, - 5 absorb.
every time you get into online gaming, you are bound to get in noob's way that call anything they don't understand a cheat. just learn how the game is built.
Arturo02
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Originally Posted by aron searle
well done
Its a shame the econmy is rubbish. super vigour and super absorb, oh there goes nearly 2/3rds of half a mill. |
Only people who blow their money needlessly complain they have none.
Pevil Lihatuh
Even if it is true, all that people need to do is make sure that if they see someone being beaten on by 3 or 4 others in PvP and no health decreasing for more than 10/20 seconds, take screenshots and report it. Anet will watch their account for any more suspicious fights and sort it out.
Whosaidwhatnow
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Originally Posted by Arturo02
you only need those runes for pvp. For pve you don't need them at all.
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Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by Arturo02
Only people who blow their money needlessly complain they have none.
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Dead Panda
I've been in CA and TA for quite a while, and I have yet to come across these "Sadowers". Like everyone else said, probably just had some rediculously high AL.
Lews
See, its called Aegis and Guardian, and Shield of Deflection. 
No cheat.
No cheat.
Mercury Angel
Or Mist Form. 2 seconds to cast, but once it's on, it lasts for up to 25 out of 30 seconds, and there's no special indication that it's on.
Your attacks aren't "blocked", "dodged", or "evaded", they just don't damage.
Your attacks aren't "blocked", "dodged", or "evaded", they just don't damage.
Ollj
sucks to have an E/R in your team that combines (mist form,) iron mist and winter.
met one on gvg on the other team, was damn funny.
met one on gvg on the other team, was damn funny.
Reve2uk
worse thing is when you go agasit a team and they say when you start press Alt + F4 for moral booest, next thing you know the team is down to 2 :P
MultimediaJay
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Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake
no alot of people were talking about it today, probably like 10 districts of people were talking about it. It is possible, there are cheats and hacks out there, how do you think people get money to sell? they obviously use some hack cuz I can't see someone farming day and night as their daily job, including that now farming has been nerfed for some dumb reason
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Welcome to the Information Age where sweatshops are created for virtual gold.
Daegul Mistweaver
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Originally Posted by Joker The Owner
keylogger...
also people who were saying it were probably bots who got their account stolen and now they are spamming it... |
Tainted Poon
there are cheat programs out........
Caelus The Fallen
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Originally Posted by Dahl
ps. 40 armor = half damage.
meaning skills like "Watch Yourself!" Gives you 20 def, cutting your damage by a quarter. |
40 armour gives *2^(-1) = *1/2
however 20 amour is *2^(-1/2) = *squareroot(1/2) = *0.707
which is reducing received damage by about 30%, clearly better than the quarter that you have suggested.
bright_yooper
mist form.... i use that in comp and team...
projectnavi
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Originally Posted by Tainted Poon
there are cheat programs out........
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thats the thing about not paying a montly fee for a mmorpg type game...you don't pay a montly fee so you can expect a slower developper response since they don't have the usual income that comes from montly fees to help them create an effective support team.
but after countless hours of PvP, i have yet to see someone not taking damage. (exept for the duration of a specific spell/skill, of course).
Shanaeri Rynale
A good cheat program would'nt be so obvious as to make someone take no damage forever. It would buff or reduce damage by a few seconds. In the heat of battle who'd notice an extra second.
IceD'Bear
How could a cheat program buff or reduce damage? All the calculations are done on the server, the client just displays the numbers....
Nocens Imperceptus
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Originally Posted by Dahl
Whosaidwhatnow, it's because full knight armor isnt any good. having reduce damage on one piece covers your whole body, and doesn't stack with other knight items, only another rune. The only damage reduction that will stack is a shield, 1 rune, and 1 knight piece.
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Actually, knight armour works for the part of the body the pojectile hits. It hits your legs you get the -2 damage for that hit. Hits your chest but you only have leg knight armour, you get full damage. Hits your chest and you have chest knight armour you get the -2 damage for that hit.
Source: http://manual.guildwars.com/combat/w...armor-faq.html
No argueing with the devs. they made the game.
Kamatsu
Nocens Imperceptus - that guide is incorrect. Damage Absorbtion from knights & Ascalon armor is currently a global effect - this has been tested and proved many times by many different players. While it might have been intended to be location specific, as it stands right now it's global effect and that has NOT been fixed/changed.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=13945
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=12481
http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...=25#post144063
Try doing some research here and you'll soon find that we know what we're talking about and the guide on the main Guild Wars site is incorrect. The dev's might have made the game, but what they say on that guide isn't 100% correct and can be argued with since multiple player's have tested it and found that guide to be wrong. Can't argue with facts.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=13945
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=12481
http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...=25#post144063
Try doing some research here and you'll soon find that we know what we're talking about and the guide on the main Guild Wars site is incorrect. The dev's might have made the game, but what they say on that guide isn't 100% correct and can be argued with since multiple player's have tested it and found that guide to be wrong. Can't argue with facts.
Charcoal Ann
I'm not sure how most hacks CAN work on an online game like this. everything is done on the main server. you'd need to hack the server to get any changes. and that is both hard and VERY illegal.
OT.
on the armor thing. i once thought what the manual said was true. i did some testing myself. it is wrong. the armor is bugged. it is SUPPOSED to act like the manual says but doesn't (and would still be crap if it did).
i hope ANet fix it some day. after finishing the necro armor of course
OT.
on the armor thing. i once thought what the manual said was true. i did some testing myself. it is wrong. the armor is bugged. it is SUPPOSED to act like the manual says but doesn't (and would still be crap if it did).
i hope ANet fix it some day. after finishing the necro armor of course
aron searle
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Originally Posted by Charcoal Ann
I'm not sure how most hacks CAN work on an online game like this. everything is done on the main server. you'd need to hack the server to get any changes. and that is both hard and VERY illegal.
OT. on the armor thing. i once thought what the manual said was true. i did some testing myself. it is wrong. the armor is bugged. it is SUPPOSED to act like the manual says but doesn't (and would still be crap if it did). i hope ANet fix it some day. after finishing the necro armor of course |
i think.
Nefertem
No.
Just.. no.
Guild Wars is exclusively driven by the network (id est, everything you do, you have to recieve it from the network). Any vulnerabilities would have to exploit the Client-Server protocol, but I doubt it would be able to affect anything that would be of fundemental use. I find it highly unlikely that such client-server exploits would propogate through the network.
And to find a client-server error, you would have to be sitting there with a UDP packet sniffer--and you would have to know the client-server protocol, which, to say the least, is rather...complicated.
On top of all that, with all the people who report bugs and the fact that the development community is very active, I doubt the error would last for long, and I'm sure that it would be corrected retroactively.
But, I could be wrong.
Just.. no.
Guild Wars is exclusively driven by the network (id est, everything you do, you have to recieve it from the network). Any vulnerabilities would have to exploit the Client-Server protocol, but I doubt it would be able to affect anything that would be of fundemental use. I find it highly unlikely that such client-server exploits would propogate through the network.
And to find a client-server error, you would have to be sitting there with a UDP packet sniffer--and you would have to know the client-server protocol, which, to say the least, is rather...complicated.
On top of all that, with all the people who report bugs and the fact that the development community is very active, I doubt the error would last for long, and I'm sure that it would be corrected retroactively.
But, I could be wrong.
Former Ruling
Someone mentioned Counter-strike and that is true lol.
Get on a little noobies server and kill about 5 peopel without ever getting hit you hear alot of "OmGz0rs, WALL HACKZOR I'lL BaaN U!!@!" or something similar.
But I have yet to see any talk of cheating here. Probably just really bored people
Get on a little noobies server and kill about 5 peopel without ever getting hit you hear alot of "OmGz0rs, WALL HACKZOR I'lL BaaN U!!@!" or something similar.
But I have yet to see any talk of cheating here. Probably just really bored people
Loquetus
i just a warrior with armour of earth and the occasional obsidian flesh
results in taking 0 dmge from attacks and being imune to most spells
= lots of noobs saying omg you lame hacker imma gonna report you
the fact that 1 warrior like that can defeat 4 noobs with ease just makes them even angryer
a warrior with 1 part of knights armour and a sup absorp , earth at 10 with armour of earth takes 0 dmge from meelee attacks and a bit of dmge from spells like fireball
add obsid flesh and you take 0 dmge from everything
xept conditions and hexes
results in taking 0 dmge from attacks and being imune to most spells
= lots of noobs saying omg you lame hacker imma gonna report you
the fact that 1 warrior like that can defeat 4 noobs with ease just makes them even angryer
a warrior with 1 part of knights armour and a sup absorp , earth at 10 with armour of earth takes 0 dmge from meelee attacks and a bit of dmge from spells like fireball
add obsid flesh and you take 0 dmge from everything
xept conditions and hexes