Ultimate Challenge: Pass Ring of Fire mission with henchman only!
goldjas
I'd love to se someone do this, I keep reading over and over again that you can pass every mission with henchman, and I call BS on this one, So I'd give ya a cookie or something if you could pull this one off with you and 7 henchies. 
Unrealer
err soo... let me equipt my henches with infused armor and all will be fine
FluidFox
Heh... Yeah they would be turned into kibble. Spectral Agony doesn't play around... Be nice if you could capture it .
Thaf
My group took Mhenlo along, for the first 2 mission I counted 19 deaths.
Romac
well i just tried it with henchies, but got wiped by some fire imps just before reaching the temple...got through the billion mursaats at the beginning np.
I have done every other mission with henchies except thirsty river though.
I have done every other mission with henchies except thirsty river though.
KainShadow
tried, reached portals with henchs...then it's almost impossibile :\
Hell Marauder
I did this mission with hench only, and my char is a W/Mo. It's easier than a human party IMHO. You know why? Because there is no death penalty for henches so they can die over and over while the baddies once gone, they are gone forever. So all it takes is patience. With henchies you can take your time, wait and plan strategy and regroup if needed. Lure baddies with henchies is difficult, but is possible, just keeps clicking your name bar. But to pass this mission with henchies YOU HAVE GOT TO BE A MONK, either as primary or secondary. The key is to draw baddies out group by group, away from ethel ring. Destroying minions before attacking boss. With patience and tons of rez, you can do it.
SOT
Im still playing by henchmen only so bs all ya want. It works, you just have to have tennacity. Many of the quests and missions I end up with -60% or more on my party from dying so much, but I always, in the end, succeed.
I have far fewer worries with henchmen than human beings who join the party, leave town, then leave the GAME because they die, before I or the bot can raise them. Also the bots do not smother me with inane babble about thier day out of game.
It works.
I have far fewer worries with henchmen than human beings who join the party, leave town, then leave the GAME because they die, before I or the bot can raise them. Also the bots do not smother me with inane babble about thier day out of game.
It works.
bellannaer
Done with henchmen only, Mo/Me. The next one I couldn't pull off though, got to the gate to the last room and couldn't kill the bosses.
Maccas
Well... I dont really know what to say... I only bought the game yesterday and Ive been doing most the quests solo, thats right no other players and no henchies either. Why u ask? because I get more experience and loot this way. Im already a level 10 Elementalist/Mesmer with 3 rare items and the best armour I've come across so far.
Most the quests are pretty easy to do solo if u take your time and dont get too many aggro at once (killing multiple bosses for a high morale boost really helps too)
Pretty sure your not talking about the fire in the north quest since Ive done that one... when I get to the "ring of fire" one Ill let you know how I go.
Most the quests are pretty easy to do solo if u take your time and dont get too many aggro at once (killing multiple bosses for a high morale boost really helps too)
Pretty sure your not talking about the fire in the north quest since Ive done that one... when I get to the "ring of fire" one Ill let you know how I go.
Vangor
Maccas, I as my practically unkillable W/Mo build with elites, high end armor, at level 20, full attributes, could not do most of the quests even past Ascalon solo, not without alot of extra time on my hands to do single pulls from linked groups, wearing down enemies and fighting before they refill. Quests, sure plenty are doable, but once again exploration can become difficult as hell through most locations. Experience, you get plenty of it I assure you, it isn't hard to be 20 before you ascend just rushing through with a group, and you're automatically once you do ascend. Plus loot, early stuff, never equals later items, I can come back to Droknar's Forge and make 5k without breaking much of a sweat.
As for Ring of Fire solo, I'm doubtful you could take a Burning Titan if you could get just one, we're talking about groups of 8 having difficulty, these are the last and often hardest missions in the game.
As for it with henchmen, I've heard people coming into Forge proclaiming they've just beaten it, I doubt it is really close to impossible, I just don't see the real use, beating missions like that is all about patience, I'd rather finish it without a death in just over an hour.
As for Ring of Fire solo, I'm doubtful you could take a Burning Titan if you could get just one, we're talking about groups of 8 having difficulty, these are the last and often hardest missions in the game.
As for it with henchmen, I've heard people coming into Forge proclaiming they've just beaten it, I doubt it is really close to impossible, I just don't see the real use, beating missions like that is all about patience, I'd rather finish it without a death in just over an hour.
Romac
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Originally Posted by Maccas
Well... I dont really know what to say... I only bought the game yesterday and Ive been doing most the quests solo, thats right no other players and no henchies either. Why u ask? because I get more experience and loot this way. Im already a level 10 Elementalist/Mesmer with 3 rare items and the best armour I've come across so far.
i think i understand...you're still in pre-searing ascalon aren't you? if you're not in pre-searing still, you probably just got out.
in case you weren't aware...pre-searing ascalon is not the game...it's the tutorial.
Don't let the pace of the tutorial fool you...i can get an alt from 0 to 5 in about an hour, and from 5 to 10 in another 2 or 3...wait till you get to lvl 19 and try to ascend...those are the first missions that could be called hard.
another by the way...missions are not quests.
in case you weren't aware...pre-searing ascalon is not the game...it's the tutorial.
Don't let the pace of the tutorial fool you...i can get an alt from 0 to 5 in about an hour, and from 5 to 10 in another 2 or 3...wait till you get to lvl 19 and try to ascend...those are the first missions that could be called hard.
another by the way...missions are not quests.
LoLz
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Because there is no death penalty for henches
actually there are death penalty for npc =p
Hell Marauder
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Originally Posted by LoLz
actually there are death penalty for npc =p
There are death penalties for npc? Hmmm...it's really hard to tell and honestly, I haven't noticed their being any weaker with dying. This is after playing with them for three weeks now. Are you sure?
Tavenlen
I really think there is a DP for the henchies. When they start to die, they not only die quicker afterward, but can be healed with a lesser spell by my Monk. I'm not positive about this, but I am pretty sure they have a DP.
Sadye X
After who knows how many fails on RoF with player-teams, I decided to give it a run with the henchie-squad ... and although it took quite a bit of time it was most definitely doable ... and no, i'm not a monk at all, but a n/w. All it took was spam casting well of blood in the areas with the spiders and imps, the biggest challange of all simply being trying to convince the henchie-squad that it's not such a good idea to fight while burning alive from standing in the middle of a lava pool 
Mariena Feladon
Heh, I always claim henchmen to be dumb, useless morons (excuse my French) but it took me about 10 tries to get the Ring of Fire done with humans.
I do it once with henchmen, and voila, I steal the elite I wanted from the Lavaspitter, cross the whole volcano, I can time my attacks, nobody will quit because they have to eat/sleep/whine/cry. Just perfect.
Abaddon's Mouth seems to be a whole lot easier, but that may because the people that can't do the Ring of Fire, never will be able to if they keep up the same 'strategy' (read: rushing). Great weed machine. It was only because our party couldn't take out the Monk boss because none of us could interrupt it's Orison: we failed.
Well, the next try was succesful, even though I had little faith in the party (the only spellcaster was a W/E, Monk didn't have offensive spells). There was little communication but everybody did what he/she was supposed to do. We were very patient, I lured the mobs and we slaughtered them. Once we got to the Monk boss, I interrupted it's Orison of Healing and he went poof: we succeeded.
I haven't tried this with Henchmen, but I don't think you'll need to.. Once you get this far, there are hardly any noobs left because they're all stuck at Thunderhead / Ring of Fire.
PS. Titans are wussies!
I do it once with henchmen, and voila, I steal the elite I wanted from the Lavaspitter, cross the whole volcano, I can time my attacks, nobody will quit because they have to eat/sleep/whine/cry. Just perfect.
Abaddon's Mouth seems to be a whole lot easier, but that may because the people that can't do the Ring of Fire, never will be able to if they keep up the same 'strategy' (read: rushing). Great weed machine. It was only because our party couldn't take out the Monk boss because none of us could interrupt it's Orison: we failed.
Well, the next try was succesful, even though I had little faith in the party (the only spellcaster was a W/E, Monk didn't have offensive spells). There was little communication but everybody did what he/she was supposed to do. We were very patient, I lured the mobs and we slaughtered them. Once we got to the Monk boss, I interrupted it's Orison of Healing and he went poof: we succeeded.
I haven't tried this with Henchmen, but I don't think you'll need to.. Once you get this far, there are hardly any noobs left because they're all stuck at Thunderhead / Ring of Fire.
PS. Titans are wussies!
Traveller
I did Ring of Fire today with just henchies. To me the two toughest spots were: 1) Right at the beginning, if you get swamped by the Mursaat, the henchies are dead. Had to try a few times. 2) And at the main gate, which was rather tough. I lured the guys standing there, killed them, and then just went slowly taking out one ether seal at a time, resting, going back, etc.
Usually after killing each seal there was one hench dead, but they could be resurrected. After getting inside the main gate the rest of the mission was very easy. Also I got wiser from one earlier attempt and took Savage slash with me to interrupt the Mursaat Monk boss' Orison of healing - and a few succesful interrupts turned the tides on that one.
Now off to Abaddon's mouth to try, if it can be done with henchies too...
Usually after killing each seal there was one hench dead, but they could be resurrected. After getting inside the main gate the rest of the mission was very easy. Also I got wiser from one earlier attempt and took Savage slash with me to interrupt the Mursaat Monk boss' Orison of healing - and a few succesful interrupts turned the tides on that one.
Now off to Abaddon's mouth to try, if it can be done with henchies too...
Cymmina
Best I've done with henchmen is popping the first 2 seals on the guarded doorway (which is easier than the path Mr. Scepter Man suggests). I've gotten that far once with 7 henchmen (I quit at that point, forget why now) and a few times with 6 hench and another player (it's easier to manage henchies with 2 people sometimes).
Abaddon's Mouth is possible with henchmen -- I've done bonus with them. I've also completed Hell's Precipice + bonus with henchmen.
Abaddon's Mouth is possible with henchmen -- I've done bonus with them. I've also completed Hell's Precipice + bonus with henchmen.
agentgray
I just completed this with henchmen. I'm a full ranger (quickshot).
The catch: screw the vizer, go through the door and pull pull pull.
The catch: screw the vizer, go through the door and pull pull pull.
EF2NYD
Did the mission and bonus with my N/Mo and henchies...took about 3 hours.
Red Rumm
Passing all missions w/hench only is not impossible, but doing all bonuses is the real challenge.
Sunyi
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Originally Posted by Hell Marauder
There are death penalties for npc? Hmmm...it's really hard to tell and honestly, I haven't noticed their being any weaker with dying. This is after playing with them for three weeks now. Are you sure?
Let Alesia die a few times. Then try to keep her alive. You'll see the difference.
EF2NYD
Or get 60 dp for everyone and try to wade through the lava.
Jhyphi
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Originally Posted by Red Rumm
Passing all missions w/hench only is not impossible, but doing all bonuses is the real challenge.
I'm at ring of fire. Only bonus I haven't done w/ henchmen only is thunderhead. Not from lack of their attack/defense power. With shutdown, those mursaat go down like nothing. The only reason is I can't light 2 torches fast enough for the dwarven soldiers to scream bloody murder and die off screen somewhere. They should change this so it's possible to light the 2 torches w/ only 1 player.
Anyways, point is, henchmen are really good if you know how to use them. They know how to focus fire and lina and alesia are 2 of the best monks out there (except slightly stupid at protecting "can't die mission fail" characters in which case you should bring some sort of heal, I use healing spring).
The main trick is to not try to deal all the damage yourself. Don't have the mentality that I'm only real player, need to do everything. If there's one thing they're good at, it's basic attacking on the same guy. Using things like throw dirt, distraction shot, power block, blackout, everything goes down like hot knife on butter. I'm not doing much damage but everything including bosses die in under 10 seconds. All enemies are quite useless w/o skills.
Anyways, point is, henchmen are really good if you know how to use them. They know how to focus fire and lina and alesia are 2 of the best monks out there (except slightly stupid at protecting "can't die mission fail" characters in which case you should bring some sort of heal, I use healing spring).
The main trick is to not try to deal all the damage yourself. Don't have the mentality that I'm only real player, need to do everything. If there's one thing they're good at, it's basic attacking on the same guy. Using things like throw dirt, distraction shot, power block, blackout, everything goes down like hot knife on butter. I'm not doing much damage but everything including bosses die in under 10 seconds. All enemies are quite useless w/o skills.
xAzNx
ive done it with henchies only problem was the lava part and the monk bosses
PAC
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Originally Posted by Jhyphi
I'm at ring of fire. Only bonus I haven't done w/ henchmen only is thunderhead. Not from lack of their attack/defense power. With shutdown, those mursaat go down like nothing. The only reason is I can't light 2 torches fast enough for the dwarven soldiers to scream bloody murder and die off screen somewhere. They should change this so it's possible to light the 2 torches w/ only 1 player.
It's possible to this with only henchies, you just can't be sure you'll make it every time. Just keep at it, you'll make it eventually. Also, I have found that the amount of "additional mursaat" forces you draw in is quite small, and they come during the first wave, which is fairly easy anyway. So I'd advice everyone to always light the torches and try to get the bonus. If you die on this one you'll die on the 2nd wave boss, which is not linked to the bonus.
I have done all mission/bonuses with henchies and for me the most difficult bonuses were the infusion mission one (has to be played as Mo/x or x/Mo), closely followed by Dunes. The most difficult missions were Thirsty (before Lina, easier now) and Thunderhead. The Ring of Fire ones are tough with henchies, but quite doable. Clearly the most fun missions in the game
I have done all mission/bonuses with henchies and for me the most difficult bonuses were the infusion mission one (has to be played as Mo/x or x/Mo), closely followed by Dunes. The most difficult missions were Thirsty (before Lina, easier now) and Thunderhead. The Ring of Fire ones are tough with henchies, but quite doable. Clearly the most fun missions in the game
wolfy3455
Its fairly easy now, although i'm guessing from the age of this thread (damn revivalists) that this was posted before henchmen were infused, which made the missions not only possible, but easy with henchmen.
timmo567
Why do people think henchmen are so bad? There much much better than random human players (not inculding guild ect.) and all it takes is control. You just have to know how they work - Completed without dying, I think only 1 henchie hit the dirt once when we were swimming in the lava
magmore
My bro who plays WAY more than I has ascended and did those last missions with only the henchpeople .
Took him all freakin day . I cant wait to fight my dopolganger in the endfight.
I am going to do thunderhead tonight . Tried about 8 times so far with henchmen and real groups . Do better with the henchies . There are a LOT of newbies there . Probably becuase it is the last place they can easily get a runner to take them with their bought online money .
Took him all freakin day . I cant wait to fight my dopolganger in the endfight.
I am going to do thunderhead tonight . Tried about 8 times so far with henchmen and real groups . Do better with the henchies . There are a LOT of newbies there . Probably becuase it is the last place they can easily get a runner to take them with their bought online money .
fugazzi
After failing this mission twice with guildies and human players, I decided to give it a try with henchies. First try was a disaster, got caught between mursaat and jades at the outset. Second try, Little Thom took a lava bath and aggro'ed 2 mobs of lava imps.
On my third try, I ignored the vizier's advice and went for the tower. I'm a R/M and used my bow to pull in/take out the jades before taking on each seal. Takes some patience but it works with henchies dying left and right. Regroup and go for more seals. Once the door was open, pulled more mursaats out and it was a matter of eliminating them a few at a time. Also, I had to isolate the battles with the level 28 bosses, as they were harder to kill.
Finished this mission with ease on the third try with henchies.
On my third try, I ignored the vizier's advice and went for the tower. I'm a R/M and used my bow to pull in/take out the jades before taking on each seal. Takes some patience but it works with henchies dying left and right. Regroup and go for more seals. Once the door was open, pulled more mursaats out and it was a matter of eliminating them a few at a time. Also, I had to isolate the battles with the level 28 bosses, as they were harder to kill.
Finished this mission with ease on the third try with henchies.
KamikazeChicken
With hench you can't take the back way in RoF. I wouldn't EVER suggest the back way even with real people.
Abbadon's Mouth is cake with hench; who do you think went with me skill capping?
Hell's Precipice doesn't take any effort at all with hench; I actually bothered running this for the sole purpose of taking screen shots. People have no faith in our henchman brothers. >.>
Hell's Precipice shots:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...hots/gw062.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...hots/gw064.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...hots/gw065.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...hots/gw068.jpg
If I only get a cookie for completing RoF, I might run through it later tonight out of sheer boredom.
Abbadon's Mouth is cake with hench; who do you think went with me skill capping?
Hell's Precipice doesn't take any effort at all with hench; I actually bothered running this for the sole purpose of taking screen shots. People have no faith in our henchman brothers. >.>
Hell's Precipice shots:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...hots/gw062.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...hots/gw064.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...hots/gw065.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...hots/gw068.jpg
If I only get a cookie for completing RoF, I might run through it later tonight out of sheer boredom.
Aeryn Dimeneira
Last night the Henchies saved my life, could be my post's title ^_^
I usually play GW with an IRL friend of mine we started together and did all the missions together + henchmen, we beat the game 4 times by now ( with each of our 4 chars) and we've always done it always us 2 + henchmen, i might say that the first time was kinda difficult because we had to figure out how things were working, but now we complete each mission or bonus on a single attempt and flawless, the only bonus we haven't been able to clear each time so far was Killing Brill in the Dragon's Lair Mission, it depends mainly on our characters class combos out of the 8 people from the group.
And I must admit that is a very good thing that it is possible to complete the whole game only with henchies because even if they aren't great fighters, they're better than most of the humans I've grouped with, once we arrived in the southern shiverpeaks we tried not to use the henchies and group with other people cause we heard from here the missions were impossible to complete with henchies, and after several tries on many missions we figured out that we'd better start trying on our own with henchies rather than waiting "the good group" since a single person can screw up a full group who is attually trying to get the things done, and I must admit, I'm sure we finished the game faster than we would have done by grouping, seeing some people stucked on some missions for more than 10 attempts.
Well thanks henchies, you helped us a lot, even if you A.I. is comparable to my old Donkey Kong vintage video game which means almost inexistant...
I usually play GW with an IRL friend of mine we started together and did all the missions together + henchmen, we beat the game 4 times by now ( with each of our 4 chars) and we've always done it always us 2 + henchmen, i might say that the first time was kinda difficult because we had to figure out how things were working, but now we complete each mission or bonus on a single attempt and flawless, the only bonus we haven't been able to clear each time so far was Killing Brill in the Dragon's Lair Mission, it depends mainly on our characters class combos out of the 8 people from the group.
And I must admit that is a very good thing that it is possible to complete the whole game only with henchies because even if they aren't great fighters, they're better than most of the humans I've grouped with, once we arrived in the southern shiverpeaks we tried not to use the henchies and group with other people cause we heard from here the missions were impossible to complete with henchies, and after several tries on many missions we figured out that we'd better start trying on our own with henchies rather than waiting "the good group" since a single person can screw up a full group who is attually trying to get the things done, and I must admit, I'm sure we finished the game faster than we would have done by grouping, seeing some people stucked on some missions for more than 10 attempts.
Well thanks henchies, you helped us a lot, even if you A.I. is comparable to my old Donkey Kong vintage video game which means almost inexistant...