Help with ORDER necro please

ibex333

ibex333

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brooklyn, NY

[EYE]

Rt/A

I have recently started playing with the Order necro, and I'm doing fairly well keeping the orders up at all times and energy is fine too. However even tho I chose monk secondary, it is very hard for me to stay alive cause orders require to sac health. Warriors and Mesmers kill me in 1-3 seconds flat. I'm sure the ORDER build has been posted a million times, but they must be in the archive since when I did a search and I found nothing.
Can anyone please tell me what should a GOOD Order build look like???
Highly appreciated. Thanx in advance.

rii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

UK

Necromancer/Monk

Blood: 16
Soul Reaping: 8
Healing: 10

Order of the Vampire [e]
Order of Pain
Dark Fury
Well of Blood
Strip Enchantment
Heal Area
Orison of Healing
Resurrection Signet

Let your monks worry about keeping you alive... if its iway and there arent monks, hang as far back as you can (which usually stops people for some reason) and then just pray. Theres nothing much you can do if someone wants you dead.

Borin Durin

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

Try using aura of the lich and blood renewal while spamming order of pain and dark fury. I use a superior blood rune and have 405 health. Under aura of the lich you will hardly sac. any health and blood renewal will heal you for whatever you lost.
Throw in dark bond and a minion spell and you can tank all the damage a warrior, ele, or ranger can throw at you since your minions will take 75% of the damage for you. You would be weak however to degen since you would only have about 200 health.

1. aura of the lich
2. blood renewal
3. dark bond
4. animate bone minions
5. order of pain
6. dark fury
7. vamp. gaze/or skill of preferance
8. rez

Serps

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Brisbane, Australia

N/Me

That would make it difficult to use order of the vampire(E).

Borin Durin

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Serps
That would make it difficult to use order of the vampire(E). Order of the Vampire isn't really needed imo. You won't be able to constantly upkeep 3 order spells so its pointless to have all of them in your skill bar. The OP said he had trouble staying alive. Using dark bond and aura of the lich should help reduce the damage he takes while the minions do damage/distraction/give energy when they die.

These are the skills I use and they work for me I'm just posting my build to try and help.

ibex333

ibex333

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brooklyn, NY

[EYE]

Rt/A

Yes, and I appreciate this. I wonder tho.. would your build work in the case of IWAY too???

rii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

UK

Aura of the Lich is of course the staple skill needed for sacrfice builds if you can spare it.... i would say ootv takes priority here though.
+17 damage and health stealing, not only is that big in terms of dps, mixed with cyclone axe in iway it provides a source of healing combined with pred that can actually keep you alive if not focused (i.e. against passive dps like aoe and degen).
On the dais, cyclone axe pretty much heals you to full health, which considering its every 4s is dam nice.

Order of the vampire IS a concession in warrior assist w/necro, where you use ether prodigy to fuel your order of pain and dark fury... otherwise there isnt a consistent source of energy. Tombs, iway, etc, rely on soul reaping... its sporadic but effective enough, and against the positives its worth it.

The OP wanted to stay alive. That doesnt happen in iway/tombs so theres no point worrying... just stay out the way is the best advice. In 8v8.... you have monks, and if you die its their fault unless your a complete dunce and run frenzy ftw! when focused.. in which case its yours.