Henchmen AI
quanzong
Claude is OK
Duram is OK
Alesia SUCKS HARDCORE, when she is running to me with poison, she should HEAL HERSELF LOL, the ettins AI is way better than hers and there suppose to have a tiny brain, they use healing signet when they are bleeding, but when alesia is suffering from poison she trys to catch up with me 1st then heals lol dumb, time you get to me your dead.
Little Thom SUCKS, when I'm casting mesmer skills on a foe, he sits and says "DURRRRRRR, what am i suppose to do?" he makes me have to call the target, lol attack something when I am attacking.
Stefan OK
Reyna BAD Learn to run pal, when you cannot see me on the map, your too late to run, run when I am a thumbs length away LOL.
Duram is OK
Alesia SUCKS HARDCORE, when she is running to me with poison, she should HEAL HERSELF LOL, the ettins AI is way better than hers and there suppose to have a tiny brain, they use healing signet when they are bleeding, but when alesia is suffering from poison she trys to catch up with me 1st then heals lol dumb, time you get to me your dead.
Little Thom SUCKS, when I'm casting mesmer skills on a foe, he sits and says "DURRRRRRR, what am i suppose to do?" he makes me have to call the target, lol attack something when I am attacking.
Stefan OK
Reyna BAD Learn to run pal, when you cannot see me on the map, your too late to run, run when I am a thumbs length away LOL.
calamitykell
Claude is good.
Dunham is useless.
Little Thom is good. (Casting is not attacking. Call the spells and they'll attack.)
Stefan is great.
Reyna is good (usually the last to die.)
Lina is good, more reliable than Alesia/Mhenlo.
Orion/Cynn might be troublesome. I haven't henched in a while, so I can't say for sure.
Alesia is really a W/Mo without the W/ part. Besides, she has a crush on you and doesn't like being separated. It's sweet.
Dunham is useless.
Little Thom is good. (Casting is not attacking. Call the spells and they'll attack.)
Stefan is great.
Reyna is good (usually the last to die.)
Lina is good, more reliable than Alesia/Mhenlo.
Orion/Cynn might be troublesome. I haven't henched in a while, so I can't say for sure.
Alesia is really a W/Mo without the W/ part. Besides, she has a crush on you and doesn't like being separated. It's sweet.
MaglorD
Hmm let's see...
Little Thom/Devona - Stupid. They don't attack even when enemies are in their aggro circle unless you attack. So if you choose not to attack due to empathy/clumsiness etc, they will stand around.
Mhenlo/Lina - Stupid. Sometimes, they don't even bother to heal anyone if you aren't attacking but casting spells.
Cynn - Ok. She does what she can.
Monster AI is superior to henchies. They know how to run when in danger. They even refuse to be pulled if they detect another group of monsters nearby, hoping you'll be dumb enough to attack them and aggro the other group. And if you break off a fight, they will no longer go into patrol but wait for you to return. This means you can't rez stupid Devona/Little Thom, who love to run after monsters and get outside Mhenlo/Lina's healing range and get killed.
Little Thom/Devona - Stupid. They don't attack even when enemies are in their aggro circle unless you attack. So if you choose not to attack due to empathy/clumsiness etc, they will stand around.
Mhenlo/Lina - Stupid. Sometimes, they don't even bother to heal anyone if you aren't attacking but casting spells.
Cynn - Ok. She does what she can.
Monster AI is superior to henchies. They know how to run when in danger. They even refuse to be pulled if they detect another group of monsters nearby, hoping you'll be dumb enough to attack them and aggro the other group. And if you break off a fight, they will no longer go into patrol but wait for you to return. This means you can't rez stupid Devona/Little Thom, who love to run after monsters and get outside Mhenlo/Lina's healing range and get killed.
Swehurn
Dunham is a tard. Watch him for awhile....all he does is cast diversion... when there aren't even any enemies around. Good use of energy right there! "Look at me...I'm diversion man!" (personally I think he likes the pink aura it gives him)
Orion will always have a special place in my heart...gotta love the fact that he almost always sets off a fire storm 5 seconds after the mob is dead. Nice fireworks!
I find that as a team mhenlo and lina are pretty damn good. Alesia has some serious issues.
Stefan is good.
Little thom...mixed bag...sometimes he's really good...other times he's terrible.
Wrong spell...but the point remains.
Orion will always have a special place in my heart...gotta love the fact that he almost always sets off a fire storm 5 seconds after the mob is dead. Nice fireworks!
I find that as a team mhenlo and lina are pretty damn good. Alesia has some serious issues.
Stefan is good.
Little thom...mixed bag...sometimes he's really good...other times he's terrible.
Wrong spell...but the point remains.
MaglorD
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Originally Posted by Swehurn
Dunham is a tard. Watch him for awhile....all he does is cast diversion... when there aren't even any enemies around. Good use of energy right there! "Look at me...I'm diversion man!" (personally I think he likes the pink aura it gives him)
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NightOwl
I like Alesia better than Mhenlo. In fact, I like all of the early henches better than the post-ascention bunch.
lg5000
Hm... Alesia has no problems with my chars.
Orion, actually manages to cast firestorm on time 90% of all times when my mesmer has him in his party (something about an affair they have going perhaps?)
Thom is just... I don't like him and would rather have a party of 7 than take him.
Reyna, well, gotta fill the party with someone, besides, she can out-live most.
The trick to Alesia is to take Lina and Claude, without him, there goes Alesia's energy managment, and my mesmer is most likely going to find a way to kill him next time he tries to get too close to give energy.
Durnham.. well.. he does cast empathy as well. Once again, i'd take him over Thom any day, Thom = no ability to pull.
Orion, actually manages to cast firestorm on time 90% of all times when my mesmer has him in his party (something about an affair they have going perhaps?)
Thom is just... I don't like him and would rather have a party of 7 than take him.
Reyna, well, gotta fill the party with someone, besides, she can out-live most.
The trick to Alesia is to take Lina and Claude, without him, there goes Alesia's energy managment, and my mesmer is most likely going to find a way to kill him next time he tries to get too close to give energy.
Durnham.. well.. he does cast empathy as well. Once again, i'd take him over Thom any day, Thom = no ability to pull.
Guardian of the Light
Stefan/Devona/Thorm are stupid caust when I try to lure they run after the ememy .
I noticed a BIG difference when we are trying to do the Monk Path quest for his Warrior and after his Ele.
I noticed a BIG difference when we are trying to do the Monk Path quest for his Warrior and after his Ele.
Divinus Stella
Thom is as good as any w/mo, if not better, he aggros when you have no energy, he does very little damage, but you never hear him shout "HEAL ME GAY MONK" or use healing sig when hes nearly dead, infact thom actually stays on call.
kvndoom
Lina was the best thing to ever happen to henchies. You gotta remember that she's a protector, so healing is secondary. I'm not even sure she HAS any healing spells. Interestingly enough, she DOES have Shield of Regenration late in the game, but almost never uses it, unless you're hit with -5 degen or worse (Conjure Phantasm + poison, for example). I wish she'd use it more often. I kinda like having 9 regen on me.
From my months of playing, it doesn't seem like Lina or Alesia or Mhenlo have condition removal OR hex removal. They'll just counter degen with Healing Breeze.
Since last week, though, I have noticed the henchies standing around doing absolutely nothing way too often, even in the thick of battle. I guess to make Guild Wars more "realistic," AFK, GTG, and BRB were programmed into the hench AI routines.
From my months of playing, it doesn't seem like Lina or Alesia or Mhenlo have condition removal OR hex removal. They'll just counter degen with Healing Breeze.
Since last week, though, I have noticed the henchies standing around doing absolutely nothing way too often, even in the thick of battle. I guess to make Guild Wars more "realistic," AFK, GTG, and BRB were programmed into the hench AI routines.
calamitykell
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Originally Posted by kvndoom
I guess to make Guild Wars more "realistic," AFK, GTG, and BRB were programmed into the hench AI routines.
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XvArchonvX
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Originally Posted by Swehurn
Dunham is a tard. Watch him for awhile....all he does is cast diversion... when there aren't even any enemies around. Good use of energy right there! "Look at me...I'm diversion man!" (personally I think he likes the pink aura it gives him)
Orion will always have a special place in my heart...gotta love the fact that he almost always sets off a fire storm 5 seconds after the mob is dead. Nice fireworks! I find that as a team mhenlo and lina are pretty damn good. Alesia has some serious issues. Stefan is good. Little thom...mixed bag...sometimes he's really good...other times he's terrible. Wrong spell...but the point remains. |
I have to agree that Orion is pretty useless and he does have impecable timing as I often see the gently sprikle of fire come down just in time to drench the freshly fallen bodies of the enemies. Together with the fact that he's usually the first to die really makes him a true winner. I really wish they would cut him off from AoE skills since his timing sucks and this new update isn't helping him either.
As for my thoughts on the other hench, I really don't see anything great in any of em besides Claude who does well to at least cast blood ritual often enough to make hiself useful, Lina, who is actually a great monk until there is a dead party member near enemies in which case she will run back and forth between you and them until she finally aggros the enemies and lures em to you, and Reyna is great if nothing else because she is almost always the last to die and brings her rez sig...
Sekkira
I ragequit on Alesia. Fed up with her completely.
jules
I was skill capping outside Ember Light Camp yesterday and Dunham and I got killed. The rest of the henchies proceeded to kill the monk boss AND the ranger boss and the rest of the monsters, then ressed me so I could cap in peace. Henchies ftw, at least for once.
Aeon_Xin
Alesia
Will often refuse to heal me, even if I'm the only one taking damage, but will rezz me before my body gets cold, all while every other NPC is still entranced by the lice crawling on the Minotarus that are scratching the lice now that I am dead, realize I'm suddenly standing back up, and then one hit me back into death.
Most time the fighting will break out then, like the fact that I didn't stay down the first time aggros the monsters(minotaurs were just an example, it happens everywhere).
Sometimes the fighting lulls, and I'll get rezzed AGAIN, with like 30 or so HP.
"STAY", the minotaur screams this time....but he realizes I'm no more than a yo-yo at this time, and mildly continues with, "down......"
I've reached -60 like that several times.
I've died several times after hitting -60, about 3-4 totally different times.
I concur. Henchies are retarted, and enemy AI is typically way better, even before the AOE thing(which I still disagree with, but refuse to argue over anymore)
You can damn well bet Monster AI is way smarter, cause it will sprint thru the henchies, and kill me ASAP, cause it even know's it's better than the Henchies.
LOL @ Orion's great timing(entirely too late) with firestorm, I thought I was the only one after having read another similar thread.
I guess it's better than making me waste fireball and pheonix because he cast it during battle though.
If they can reason AI to run away from an AOE, you would think they could manage not letting Henchies stand in poisoning water/lava also.
Just a thought.
Will often refuse to heal me, even if I'm the only one taking damage, but will rezz me before my body gets cold, all while every other NPC is still entranced by the lice crawling on the Minotarus that are scratching the lice now that I am dead, realize I'm suddenly standing back up, and then one hit me back into death.
Most time the fighting will break out then, like the fact that I didn't stay down the first time aggros the monsters(minotaurs were just an example, it happens everywhere).
Sometimes the fighting lulls, and I'll get rezzed AGAIN, with like 30 or so HP.
"STAY", the minotaur screams this time....but he realizes I'm no more than a yo-yo at this time, and mildly continues with, "down......"
I've reached -60 like that several times.
I've died several times after hitting -60, about 3-4 totally different times.
I concur. Henchies are retarted, and enemy AI is typically way better, even before the AOE thing(which I still disagree with, but refuse to argue over anymore)
You can damn well bet Monster AI is way smarter, cause it will sprint thru the henchies, and kill me ASAP, cause it even know's it's better than the Henchies.
LOL @ Orion's great timing(entirely too late) with firestorm, I thought I was the only one after having read another similar thread.
I guess it's better than making me waste fireball and pheonix because he cast it during battle though.
If they can reason AI to run away from an AOE, you would think they could manage not letting Henchies stand in poisoning water/lava also.
Just a thought.
Inziladun
Oh, too many times have I fallen in a difficult fight, only to see Alesia, Dunham and Stefan fighting hopelessly in an endless loop. Seriously now, I usually give them an hour, but I can only waste so much time... Alesia is usually running back and forth... probably trying to res me, but she's too busy spamming Orison of healing on Stefan while he's at 90% health and current casting Healing Signet....
Henchies FTW!
Henchies FTW!
Cymmina
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Originally Posted by quanzong
Claude is OK
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jules
I particularly like how Reyna uses her res signet when she's the last one standing and just about to die.
/sacarsm
/sacarsm
judge1121
i think they all good i prefer aidan though he my buddy in ranger spiking hells. i got bored and went there with him cynn and the monk henchs and i beat the mission
FrogDevourer
Do we need another rant thread about henchmen? Nope.
Do we want constructive suggestions to improve them? Sure.
Feel free to use the search button, to find and to bump another thread with useful suggestions.
Do we want constructive suggestions to improve them? Sure.
Feel free to use the search button, to find and to bump another thread with useful suggestions.