My current Staff (pst Asp Lode if you wanna sell me some nice part ;D):
+10 Energy
11-22 fire damage (req. 9 fire magic)
+2 Energy staff head (q.q that I can't find anyone selling higher)
20% chance of faster casting speed with fire magic
20% chance of faster skill recharge with fire magic
+24 health
My wand/focus before it:
Wand:
11-22 damage (req. 9 fire magic)
20% chance of faster skill recharge with fire magic
Focus:
+11 Energy (req. 11 fire magic)
6% chance of faster casting speed
So in conclusion my current staff is a tad better than my previous wand/focus combination, and I'm happy.
Oh, and a note...don't dye your staves, they end up looking the EXACT same. Squandered a black dye finding this out.
Are staffs are inferior to wands?
Asplode
Lim-Dul
I would take a staff over a wand/focus combo all the way. The boni on the wands/focusses are usually lower than the ones found on staves and no matter what staff you find: you can always adjust it for your needs.
Using this staff now:
Note that this is a blue item but few gold items can top it. ^^ The "Insightful" part will be upgraded to +4 soon. Of course I'm a mostly Illusion-Based Mesmer.
Using this staff now:
Note that this is a blue item but few gold items can top it. ^^ The "Insightful" part will be upgraded to +4 soon. Of course I'm a mostly Illusion-Based Mesmer.
Maiyn
Definitely down to choice, which is what I LOVE about this game.
I use seperate because I NEED high faster recharge, and I don't think I could get that with a staff.. when I attack with it it's only for a few moments to gain mana to cast. You know? So I definitely agree that it's about what you need from your items.
PS -- everyone with your godly stalves.
BEAUTIFUL. I like the fast cast AND recharge.. but it's still only 20% I require 30% because of high recharge spells and it works wonders.
I'm currently looking for a wand that gives +12 or higher energy and faster recharge for earth or fire. I've seen it, it exists. Some jerk tried to sell me his customized one for 10k ... oospie. Lucky I'm not that noob :/
This is why I personally prefer wands, because I know I'm going to find the one wand/artifact combo that is going to give me +20 or higher in mana.
I think it's worth the slow cast speed. But I might try out a staff. I like those ones you have there.
OH ps -- DEFINITELY worth the -1 energy regen.. to have 100+ energy. OMG.. that's spectacular... so very close :/ lol.. (PS i'm tired so i'm not sure if this post makes sense entirely)
I use seperate because I NEED high faster recharge, and I don't think I could get that with a staff.. when I attack with it it's only for a few moments to gain mana to cast. You know? So I definitely agree that it's about what you need from your items.
PS -- everyone with your godly stalves.
BEAUTIFUL. I like the fast cast AND recharge.. but it's still only 20% I require 30% because of high recharge spells and it works wonders.
I'm currently looking for a wand that gives +12 or higher energy and faster recharge for earth or fire. I've seen it, it exists. Some jerk tried to sell me his customized one for 10k ... oospie. Lucky I'm not that noob :/
This is why I personally prefer wands, because I know I'm going to find the one wand/artifact combo that is going to give me +20 or higher in mana.
I think it's worth the slow cast speed. But I might try out a staff. I like those ones you have there.
OH ps -- DEFINITELY worth the -1 energy regen.. to have 100+ energy. OMG.. that's spectacular... so very close :/ lol.. (PS i'm tired so i'm not sure if this post makes sense entirely)
TopGun
You people realize that a 2/10 chance is pretty much pathetic, right? I mean, in vegas, if someone told me my odds were 20%, I'd laugh and walk away. That's why all I play is Blackjack and Roulette.
Lim-Dul
Maiyn - one thing I'd like to point out: you can't go higher than 20%. Of course you could wield a wand AND a focus with boni to recharge, but they don't stack - just like ANY boni in GW.
TopGun - I play pen-and-paper RPGs so I pretty much know what a 20% chance is. Nevertheless you won't find better natural boni on staves/wands. As for me - the staff gives me 14 energy (hope to raise that to 15 some time), has max dmg and +30hp - the side effect that SOMETIMES my skills charge or cast faster is just a nice addition - better than nothing, isn't it? It's especially nice if Illusionary Weaponry starts charging faster. ^^
TopGun - I play pen-and-paper RPGs so I pretty much know what a 20% chance is. Nevertheless you won't find better natural boni on staves/wands. As for me - the staff gives me 14 energy (hope to raise that to 15 some time), has max dmg and +30hp - the side effect that SOMETIMES my skills charge or cast faster is just a nice addition - better than nothing, isn't it? It's especially nice if Illusionary Weaponry starts charging faster. ^^
pastey
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I would take a staff over a wand/focus combo all the way. The boni on the wands/focusses are usually lower than the ones found on staves and no matter what staff you find: you can always adjust it for your needs.
Using this staff now: Note that this is a blue item but few gold items can top it. ^^ The "Insightful" part will be upgraded to +4 soon. Of course I'm a mostly Illusion-Based Mesmer. |
heres a comparison, the best wand/focus item combo i know of in the game is a wand doing 11-22 dmg, energy +4 while health is above 50%, and a focus item from the collector +21 energy, +30 health, -1 energy regen
so my staff gives me two less health, 8 less energy, but ill have an extra regen bar, and when you think about how many skills you'll be using, id prefer to start off with 8 less and get them back quicker, and in addition to all of that, my staff has a 1/10 chance of improving the casting speed of any of my skills, its not attribute linked, i think this is more than just a mediocre staff, and i can always change the staff wrapping if i find a +30 one, beat that with a stick
Teufel Eldritch
I prefer wands & idols. Not so much because staves are somehow inferior/ineffective(they aren't) but because I like the animations when I use a wand with a idol. Some of the animations for the staves look like you are shoving a spear into someones gut. The animations for a wand & a idol look like I am actually casting magical spells.
Lim-Dul
Pastey - good luck on your +7 staff head. ;-) They go up to a max of +5, you know? =)
PieXags
Staves look cooler 'eh? Yeah, I think they do anyways.
Go staves!
I've yet to find a very good one though, but I haven't found a better wand.
Just a bone staff, 11-22 cold dmg, inspiration magic +1, improves casting speed using inspiration magic.
Not bad, but not great. Need to find one for death magic tad flabbit!
Go staves!
I've yet to find a very good one though, but I haven't found a better wand.
Just a bone staff, 11-22 cold dmg, inspiration magic +1, improves casting speed using inspiration magic.
Not bad, but not great. Need to find one for death magic tad flabbit!
Unik
I’ve been using an air staff now for about 2 weeks, before that had always carried a wand and focus. Just like many stated the problem with Staffs is finding a decent one, took me some time but managed to get one that up to now surpasses any wand and focus I came across.
I do loose 2 energy because a staff’s max energy + is 10 instead of 12 for a focus, but gain a bit in damage. Of course it’s a rare item and also has a +20 health and makes enchantments last 18% longer, with some % chance tied to it but can’t remember the exact number.
Of course i also carry in an other setup a wand and focus, but rarely use them.
Unik
I do loose 2 energy because a staff’s max energy + is 10 instead of 12 for a focus, but gain a bit in damage. Of course it’s a rare item and also has a +20 health and makes enchantments last 18% longer, with some % chance tied to it but can’t remember the exact number.
Of course i also carry in an other setup a wand and focus, but rarely use them.
Unik
Dreamsmith
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You people realize that a 2/10 chance is pretty much pathetic, right? I mean, in vegas, if someone told me my odds were 20%, I'd laugh and walk away.
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20% is significantly higher odds than 0%. It's almost guarenteed to payoff several times during any combat, whereas a wand/staff without that 20% chance won't. Why would you prefer the option with even worse odds?
KainShadow
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You people realize that a 2/10 chance is pretty much pathetic, right? I mean, in vegas, if someone told me my odds were 20%, I'd laugh and walk away. That's why all I play is Blackjack and Roulette.
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1/5 is a lot considering that as an elementalist i keep casting spells
BTW my staff:
http://utenti.lycos.it/pcshadow/guil...tail/gw218.jpg
pionata
i guess Ive been lucky to find a Firewand 11-22dmg that improve casting speed (20% chance) and has 20% extra damage + Customized for another 20%.
I have yet to find a good staff.
I have yet to find a good staff.
Konquest
Give me a good staff, and I'll use it.
Give me a good wand/focus, and I'll use it.
It just comes down what item you find and works better for your character. The game is made so that there is no uber-item class that is good in any situation.
Give me a good wand/focus, and I'll use it.
It just comes down what item you find and works better for your character. The game is made so that there is no uber-item class that is good in any situation.
Valerius
soo....
is there staff that u can get from a Collector that gives +20% Casting Speed using Healing Prayers and +20% Skill Recharge using Healing Prayers?
is there staff that u can get from a Collector that gives +20% Casting Speed using Healing Prayers and +20% Skill Recharge using Healing Prayers?
trackxyj
My elementalist has a foci, energy +6, but +45HP while enchanted. I can't find anything to replace it since ele is always enchanted.
Kershent
Valerius, in the later parts of the game, if there's a staff from a collecter that requires healing prayers, you can bet it'll have those mods.
Valerius
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was just wonderin' if anyone else has seen one?
Narcissus
Staves are not universally "Better" if you just happen to get a rare one. It all boils down to what you need and what you don't.
For my Elementalist the +20% recharge rate reduction on the 11-22 wand plus the +20% fast cast/+20% recharge rate redution on the foci is far better than any staff I might ever possibly find.
+enchant duration? Meh. Great for those that need it. Good thing I don't.
+few points of energy? No need when I have an max energy of 69-81.
For my Elementalist the +20% recharge rate reduction on the 11-22 wand plus the +20% fast cast/+20% recharge rate redution on the foci is far better than any staff I might ever possibly find.
+enchant duration? Meh. Great for those that need it. Good thing I don't.
+few points of energy? No need when I have an max energy of 69-81.
Lim-Dul
The only point here being that boni don't stack so you don't get a +40% bonus on anything by using a wand and a focus. =)
In the end we all come to the conclusion that this discussion is pointless, as it's really only a matter of preference.
In the end we all come to the conclusion that this discussion is pointless, as it's really only a matter of preference.
ShadowStorm
Staves are mostly useless... unless you make them yourself... I've never "found" a staff that I'd ever consider using over a Wand/Focus just because the only Staves worth using over the Wand/Focus Combo are practically impossible to find. Like others above have said, though, collectors have staves that come with +20% recharge and +20% casting built in and can still be upgraded. I'm currently using a perfect damage, perfect energy, 20/20 staff upgraded with an Insightful staff head +5 and a staff wrapping of Fortitude +30 because I haven't yet found a focus or wand in my school of magic that has the +15 energy, -1 energy regen mod. And until I find one of those, the staff is actually better for me... Just my thoughts.
Unheard Echo
Hey, just wondering whether or not to put some runes on my staff. I thought it was pretty damn good until I came in here with everyone's +15 energy and 20% this and that. Its a Plain purple "Fire staff" +10 energy, 11-22 damage. Should I be looking for insightful staff heads and staff wrappings of fortitude? Does it pay to apply my minor runes to it, or should I save them for something better?
Lim-Dul
Minor Runes are SOOOO easy to get - apply them to anything you want to.
Btw. +15nrg -1 regen sucks. Would never use a thing like this. I prefer not-overly-deep energy pools with good energy management - and -1 arrow of regen makes nrg management A LOT harder.
Btw. +15nrg -1 regen sucks. Would never use a thing like this. I prefer not-overly-deep energy pools with good energy management - and -1 arrow of regen makes nrg management A LOT harder.
Unheard Echo
Thanks for the tips man
taion
There are no staves requiring healing prayers. Those that give bonuses to healing prayers spells require divine favour instead.
As said before, you can easily "find" perfect staves/wands/foci just by using the collectors.
As said before, you can easily "find" perfect staves/wands/foci just by using the collectors.
Valerius
so there is no Staff u can get from a Collector that gives +20% Casting Speed using Healing Prayers and +20% Skill Recharge using Healing Prayers?
grimmolly
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so there is no Staff u can get from a Collector that gives +20% Casting Speed using Healing Prayers and +20% Skill Recharge using Healing Prayers?
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doucrix
Here's my Protection Monk's staff:
Here's my Air Elemental's staff:
only in staves can we custom to our needs...
Here's my Air Elemental's staff:
only in staves can we custom to our needs...
Eclair
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so there is no Staff u can get from a Collector that gives +20% Casting Speed using Healing Prayers and +20% Skill Recharge using Healing Prayers?
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ratatass
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I have yet to use a two handed staff in any profession. And I have never seen anybody use one either. No staff, ever would make up for the Energy + items....so far as I have seen
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Now the staffs are great!
WHY ?
1) 3 modifiers, fortitude, fire, u name it.
2) Staffs with +12 energy
3) Same damage as Wands
The best, yet is that I have found that the requirements are pretty low, my low level is running around with a +10 energy 11-22 Damage Staff with 3 modifiers on it. When you can add +5 armor to it and your armor is 15, HEY thats good!
So just want to clear up that staffs now are great! No more disadvntage using a staff.
Ratatass
Adraeus
Wand/focus. I'm rather attached to +15 Energy, Improved Casting Rate, and Improved skill recharge... altogether I have around +25 Energy. What's the highest you can go?
Red Locust
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Here's my Protection Monk's staff:
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KvanCetre
Here's what I see:
My fire wand is +15 energy
My focus item is +12 energy
There is no +27 energy staff
On a staff, I can get +4 armor and, only missing one upgrade, seem to max out at about +30ish health.
I'd take 27 energy over +30 health any day and "decrease skill recharge 20%" anyday.
In addition, I use Conjure Flame to make my regular wand attack (almost) as powerful as flare.
My fire wand is +15 energy
My focus item is +12 energy
There is no +27 energy staff
On a staff, I can get +4 armor and, only missing one upgrade, seem to max out at about +30ish health.
I'd take 27 energy over +30 health any day and "decrease skill recharge 20%" anyday.
In addition, I use Conjure Flame to make my regular wand attack (almost) as powerful as flare.
KainShadow
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That earth staff right there is the money shot. If I'm not mistaken, only staves come with the "20% longer enchantments" mod, and that mod is probably the best mod around (especially for a prot. monk). But that staff you got is one sweet ass item. How much did it cost you?
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btw
Now i've 2 configurations
the staff of my previous post for "soloing" (+10 armor )
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this for PVM in group:
Focus +12 en
20% fast cast fire
20% recharge fire
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rare fire wand
11-22
10% fast cast (general)
or
collector fire wand
11-22
20% recharge fire
codemeister
nothing beats my 20/20 staff with +22 and +21 hp
RizzleR
here's my staff how i got it orginal
put a +5 energy staffhead on it now
no wand that can measure up to this for me /edit : yet
Red Locust
Does that +15 energy fire wand come with a - energy regen? And either way, you're trading 17 energy for 20% longer enchantments. That energy is moderately useful at the start of a battle. Monks usually hover around the 5-10 energy mark during combat, so you're not seeing as much return on that 17 energy. A 20% longer lasting spellbreaker, healing seed, protective spirit or mark of protection, on the other hand, makes all the difference.
M Dew
I currently have a +1 energy holy rod (I will take all the energy I can get, fast cast means nothing to me if I do not have the energy to cast something.) please do tell if it has the - regen part. And if that does have a -1 regen whats the highest the energy bonus's go for wands before -1 regens show up on them.
ManadartheHealer
Earlier on, wands are better than staves. You have a wand and a focus, and can "mix-and-match", and switch them out separately. With a staff, you have to completely replace it and the mods if you want to change something.
However, for later on, staves are generally better (unless you cannot find a good staff and can find excellent wand+focus), especially when you have all the mods, etc. you want
However, for later on, staves are generally better (unless you cannot find a good staff and can find excellent wand+focus), especially when you have all the mods, etc. you want
Mygo
Think there's a site list with all possible mods somewhere, though it's a little inaccurate because I think the site also states that you can get two mods on the wands. Anyhow that aside, what you can't get from a wand/focus combination is 60 life that you can get on a staff with two perfect hale/fortitude mods. Considering you can get the perfect staff from collector rewards this is truly something to look forward to as you can put on more of those superior runes without pulling your maximum health down too much.