Main profession only?

Lacos

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Is there an advantage to choosing say warrior and nothing else? or being ONLY a monk with no combination? ie. different/more spells?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lacos
Is there an advantage to choosing say warrior and nothing else? or being ONLY a monk with no combination? ie. different/more spells?
you can play a pure anything but it seems you need to take a secondary to enter the academy and get out of the tutorial

no penalty to a secondary only limitations without it

SA_DEMON

SA_DEMON

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

South Africa

Royal Knights Of Camelot {HOLY}

Disapointed origanally only had to have 1 profession now we get forced to take second to go there it takes away the choice you want to make they should make it to 1 profession again because not everyone wants that second string attached im play Necro and enjoy being a pure class on its own gives me the chance to explore what they can really do. If i get a second profeesion and add monk or anything else to it and not use any of there skills people will think since he is necro/monk he can heal us in battle and so on giving the wrong impression.
So im asking for you to rethink the 2nd profession thing give ppl the choice of what they want not forcing them to take it just to continue to the next area.

Kimpeck

Kimpeck

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Well, I do think it's cool that it TELLS you you can take a second proffession now, but you're right once it tells you you should have the option to say "No, thanks" Though personally I like being a Warrior/Monk. of course if anyone thinks I'll be healing them as that combo they can forget it, I'm a smitter not a healer! hehe

SA_DEMON

SA_DEMON

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

South Africa

Royal Knights Of Camelot {HOLY}

Well since in the beta you didnt need the 2nd to go i dont see why they had to go and change it dont think anybody complained about it saying they didnt want to be 1 class to goto academy.

Troll Food

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yeah, I don't want a second profession either.... when I found out you HAD to take one I got upset and stopped playing...... although, I guess you could always take the second profession and just never ever use any of the skills for it...

MindRiot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Well, even if you need a second profession, you can simply not use its skills or attributes. Your armor is determined by your primary, so you can essentially play a pure class if you want. You might find that it's hard to find enough useful skills early on, though, without using some from the secondary; that's especially true for Warriors, as many of their skills are weapon-dependent.

SA_DEMON

SA_DEMON

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

South Africa

Royal Knights Of Camelot {HOLY}

Well i made a PvP Character and they give them the option of not having the second profession which now seems really unfair. And i would take a second profession if as i stated earlier people seeing any of the other professions added to your character automatically asumes that you are using that 2nd putting you in a tight spot (ie:PvP or Quests) they should have stuck to you can get your 2nd after the academy if you wanted.

I dont think they get around to reading this because this is a big concern to me and making the game more flexible to varied players.

Troll Food

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by MindRiot
Well, even if you need a second profession, you can simply not use its skills or attributes. Your armor is determined by your primary, so you can essentially play a pure class if you want. .

yeah, but SA_DEMON raised a good point, which is that people will assume that you're using your secondary when they see it. My character is a mesmer, and that's all I want her to be. there are no skills in any other profession that interest me. What I *don't* want to have happen is for me to pick up monk or ranger as secondary just to hit searing, and then group with people later on in life who keep asking me for heals when I have NO healing skills, etc.....

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

then TELL them you have no heals for them before you go out

it was BETA you played and betas change to the final version

there were many more complaints about coming out of the academy crippled with one profession because they did not make it clear enough it was a one way trip.

they solved it neatly by having the secondary as a requirement to the academy

you dont have to use a point of it
it costs you nothing
you can change it later if you want to
pick something besides monk and nobody will expect healing from you and since you will never use the secondary it doesnt matter what you pick

Troll Food

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yeah.... I guess we'll just have to suck it up.... I was really looking forward to having no secondary though. Maybe there will one day be a way to avoid it or remove them.

madog

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
then TELL them you have no heals for them before you go out

it was BETA you played and betas change to the final version

there were many more complaints about coming out of the academy crippled with one profession because they did not make it clear enough it was a one way trip.

they solved it neatly by having the secondary as a requirement to the academy

you dont have to use a point of it
it costs you nothing
you can change it later if you want to
pick something besides monk and nobody will expect healing from you and since you will never use the secondary it doesnt matter what you pick

Right, if you're a Mesmer/Warrior then no one's going to ask you to tank. Warrior's probably the best second profession to have if you don't want to use it.

There really would be a lot more complaints if people could accidently leave Pre-Searing without a Second Profession. Of course, they could probably fix that by letting you pick a second profession post-searing if you don't have one.

Lasher Dragon

Lasher Dragon

Draconic Rage Incarnate

Join Date: Apr 2005

Iowa

Alphahive

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by madog
Right, if you're a Mesmer/Warrior then no one's going to ask you to tank. Warrior's probably the best second profession to have if you don't want to use it.

There really would be a lot more complaints if people could accidently leave Pre-Searing without a Second Profession. Of course, they could probably fix that by letting you pick a second profession post-searing if you don't have one.
I agree. I'm 16th R/W and I find the farther I get into the game, the less Warrior skills I use. As it is now, the only Warrior ability I have any points in is Tactics, and the only skill I've been carting around lately is "Watch Yourself", simply because as a Ranger I build up adrenaline so fast I wanted some kinda skill to make use of it. I build adrenaline so fast that basically "Watch Yourself" is always active in combat, which is nice - +20 armor to the whole party during every combat.

SA_DEMON

SA_DEMON

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

South Africa

Royal Knights Of Camelot {HOLY}

Okay i know a lot of people complained about that i dont mind making a char with 2nd proffesion but i want to do it because i want to not because im being told to. And yes i have done that with my PvP char to do a test and out of 10 pvp matches 8 times they wanted me to heal them after i explained it and being insulted by people because of a second proffession not being used is a game killer for me.

Ramus

Ramus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

Zero Tolerance

W/Mo

I chose Warrior/Monk for one reason, I need the monk Res spell for stupid henchmen. Other than that though, I do not use monk for anything. Im a 9 hammer, 9 strength warrior right now.

SA_DEMON

SA_DEMON

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

South Africa

Royal Knights Of Camelot {HOLY}

Even if it was Beta it worked having a single proffesion to go to searing and had no trouble handling it as i saw with a lot of other players.
Well Loviatar they could have placed a lvl requirement instead.
And thats where i end this.

Arianna Darkfire

Arianna Darkfire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

The Beautiful City of Ascalon

The Royal Knight of Camelot

W/Mo

There was many reasons why I bought and played the beta... I wanted to learn this game and beta was the best way to go .... I very much like the idea of being 100% of any of those proffession they offered because no other game that I have played even offed any of them in this way... So yes it was very much of a challenged for me to build a staright up Elementalist, or Monk, or Warrior, or the other proffession they have.I was hoping they would let you have 6 chars so you could learn the full extent of them but it was okay with 4 for now. But to be told I have to have a 2nd proffession...no I am not happy with that. This game offers so much in choice and play that it just makes no sense to me that they offer before you go to the Academy ...but not just that they could offer as you won and got into the Academy then offer to you ...I don't like my char multi class cuz I role play but yes in pvp and team it is a wise thing to have and since I am not a really big fan of pvp I was happy with the role play of this side of the game... for this will lay heavy for me cuz i bought 3 special edition for ppl and the beta for all of us to play to see if this was a game worth investing in and we all agreed it was now just to be told we have to have a 2nd proffession well ...like I said It will lay heavy for me, this might be another game sitting on the shelf...... and alot of money wasted ... I really like the idea of working hard and leveling my char in one proffession I like to see what the char can do before I would even think of multi class a char ... A char has to be missing something for me to multi class it ....thank you

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arianna Darkfire
I don't like my char multi class cuz I role play...
Then play the role of an elementalist for example and ignore your secondary. Not hard to ignore it. Role play.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arianna Darkfire
like I said It will lay heavy for me, this might be another game sitting on the shelf...... and alot of money wasted ... I really like the idea of working hard and leveling my char in one proffession I like to see what the char can do before I would even think of multi class a char ... A char has to be missing something for me to multi class it ....thank you
did you notice that you can be as pure a whatever you want to be?
your secondary has no effect on what you look like and if you put no points into it your primary will be purely primary
*sigh*

as for working hard leveling your character did you even bother to read that this is not a leveling grind game to begin with

SA_DEMON

SA_DEMON

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

South Africa

Royal Knights Of Camelot {HOLY}

Okay all knowing Loviatar tell me why they allow a single proffession character in PvP?

Arianna Darkfire

Arianna Darkfire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

The Beautiful City of Ascalon

The Royal Knight of Camelot

W/Mo

yes all knowing Loviatar Please tell the little noob here, She wants to read your knowledge .... and for the rest what I meant was I would like to say yes or no to multi classing my char and not it be told I have to ..To continue playing the game ...Sorry didn't mean to make a mess of my thought....

Arianna Darkfire

Arianna Darkfire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

The Beautiful City of Ascalon

The Royal Knight of Camelot

W/Mo

Straight from the Guild Wars online Manual
please read First paragraph At some point it was a choice ....



On-Line Manual Navigation

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- Getting Started - Character Creation - Game Interface - Quick Start Guide - Move Hero -
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Guild Wars Online Manual - Choose a Profession


There are six professions in the Guild Wars world: Warrior, Ranger, Monk, Elementalist, Mesmer, and Necromancer. For each hero you create, you’ll start by choosing a primary profession. Later, if you choose, you can add a secondary profession.



Primary Profession (Choose during Creation)

Your primary profession determines your hero’s basic appearance, including the type of armor you’ll wear. It is your hero’s outward identity. It also provides several attributes that improve skills over time, including a primary attribute that is not available when the profession is chosen as a secondary.
Secondary Profession (Choose after Creation)

Your secondary profession provides your hero with a second set of attributes and skills to compliment the first. (Your secondary profession does not have access to the primary attribute for that profession.)
Note: Your hero will not be saved until you click Create in the Character Name screen and enter Guild Wars with that character.

Customizing Your Appearance

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

if they changed it i thank you for bringing it to my attention

i will have to double check on this

EDIT

you choose your secondary after creating your character and trying the available secondaries out in pre searing before the academy.

unless it was changed you still need a second before the academy

waiting for an email to confirm

SA_DEMON

SA_DEMON

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

South Africa

Royal Knights Of Camelot {HOLY}

So where do you see that last part writen?

Primary Profession (Choose during Creation)

Your primary profession determines your hero’s basic appearance, including the type of armor you’ll wear. It is your hero’s outward identity. It also provides several attributes that improve skills over time, including a primary attribute that is not available when the profession is chosen as a secondary.
Secondary Profession (Choose after Creation)

that is said but still not saying you have to take before academy or at all.

Arianna Darkfire

Arianna Darkfire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

The Beautiful City of Ascalon

The Royal Knight of Camelot

W/Mo

Loviatar I am trying very hard here for you to understand what I am saying ...At some point before the game came out you had a choice the manaul came out on line 1 day before the game was released in the United States ...again all I am saying "Later, if you choose, you can add a secondary profession." It is not telling you that you have to take it to get into the Academy this is what is miss leading ....

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

[QUOTE=Arianna Darkfire]Loviatar I am trying very hard here for you to understand what I am saying ...QUOTE]

apologies for my misunderstanding
i had to make sure the online manual was out of date or if they had changed things around again
if iwas giving out old information i wanted to get it straight as fast as i could rather than give out incorrect information.

things change and you get dizzy trying to keep up

again sorry for any trouble

MAJIC

MAJIC

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

N/E

I decided to make a warrior, and took a ranger as secondary just for the pet skill. My theory, at least, is if you don't really want a second profession, take ranger and have a pet

Popps97

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

I really dont' see the point of complainign about this.

You dont' loose anything by haveing a secondary skill set.
You only gain skills, for free.

Not to mention haveing a secondary class adds more quests to do...

If you dont' want to use those secondary skills, then dont' train in them, and dont' put any of them on your bar.