Is Claude any use at all?

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

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Just wanted to hear from people who've used Claude more than I: does he do ANYTHING apart from giving Blood Ritual to whoever in the team has least energy (usually one of the warriors)?

Seriously, I find Dunham more useful, and that says a lot as all *he* does is spam Crippling Anguish & Empathy.

chippxero

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

I take me soley because he seems to draw attention away from the monk, creatures seem to try to take him out first.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

If I use a full hench team, I take him because I don't take Duhnam.

schutz

schutz

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

wales

W/Me

you can say the same about any henchy except healers, orion uses fire storm when battle is over 95% of the time, thom and stefan use healing signet at completely stupid times and things like griffons sweep when theres no need then alesia heals herself, line will spam reversal of fortune/protective spirit and use shield of regen occasionally, dunham uses crippling anguish on a half dead caster and claude blood rituals warriors, reyna/aidan is the only half decent henchman but they will be the last 1 left alive have 50hp then use troll unguent and end up dying

Aed

Aed

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Claude

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

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Claude rocks. See how well your monks heal without him in a sustained battle! Blood ritual helps ALOT!

Kamatsu

Kamatsu

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Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Claude for me is like all the henchies.. a real love/hate relationship. Sometime's he's very, very handy with excellent timed BR's for me and the monk healer's as well as casting attack spells (yes, he has attack spells and does use them) with good timing... and other times he's a total idiot .. like wen he constently BR's Stefen & Claude when I'm out of energy and waiting for regen to cast next spell.. but he refuses to look at me.. LOL

*shrugs* I couldn't say for definately whether he's better than a PUG necro tho.. (I don't PUG).. but I still would take him over Dunham (Everytime I say his name I think "Dumb Ham".. hehehe) simply because more often than not what he does do is good and helpful.. whereas the only use I've ever had for Dunham has been bodies for corpse spells

But to answer the OP - yes, I've seen Claude cast spells other than BR. And his timing seems to be better than mine at times (ie casting spells when they will actually get the critter.. and not fizzle because the critter died while your still trying to cast.. hehehehe)

Funny thing about Dunham is I've never ever seen him cast Empathy or Crippling Anguish on anyone.. all he ever cast's is Distortion.. Real useful that is.. though I admit I've only ever really taken him a few times in the desert as well as the jungle.. (just trying stuff out.. heh).. and that was quite awhile ago.. so they might have fixed him to be more useful... *shrugs*

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

If you hold Ctrl and click your energy, eve;claude sometimes gives you BR... they did when I tired it but it didnt ALWAYS work.

gou

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

globally warmed england

the discarnate

sure fire way to get blood ritual from claude/eve is to spam a skill you dont have enough energy to use, nice to bring a 25 energy spell just to get their attention and pull them back out of the fight

Slimcea

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

As a Monk, I find that Claude stresses the healing need way more than he is of actual benefit. He tends to sacrifice needlessly without regards to his situation. Just had him sacrifice himself to death when he was poisoned and at 1/5 health yesterday for no particular reason.

In fact, with some decent energy management and Protection, Monks should be never short of energy and the extra stress that comes with trying to keep him alive in battle makes him pretty much inferior to most other henchies.

jonnybegood

jonnybegood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

huh?

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Off-topic but a thing to think about if there are added species there will be added henchies to the species.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

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Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

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I think the key is what you play, with my fire ele, Claude was usually dead quick and pretty useless to me. But with my mesmer, having claude and stephen make great stay away from me tanks and if there getting too pounded, I through a choas storm in to give them a quick breather.

Sister Rosette

Sister Rosette

Lady Fie

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sapporo

Tha Skulls [Ts]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slimcea
As a Monk, I find that Claude stresses the healing need way more than he is of actual benefit. He tends to sacrifice needlessly without regards to his situation. Just had him sacrifice himself to death when he was poisoned and at 1/5 health yesterday for no particular reason.

In fact, with some decent energy management and Protection, Monks should be never short of energy and the extra stress that comes with trying to keep him alive in battle makes him pretty much inferior to most other henchies.
It could be worse, they could have given him BiP.
The way he spams BR, he'd drop almost instantly....

Shimus DarkRaven

Shimus DarkRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Titusville, PA <nowhere>

KOD <Knights of the Dragonrose><Guild Officer>

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E
If you hold Ctrl and click your energy, eve;claude sometimes gives you BR... they did when I tired it but it didnt ALWAYS work.
How I wish this was so. He ignores my casters even IF I do the ctrl+clicky =/

But if it worked like that, he'd be the most rockin hench to have as a mana battery =)

--The Shim

Elena

Elena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Belgium

i think the problem with dunham is that he targets whatever he likes ? never do i see empathy cast on whatever i'm attacking oh no mr.dunham has to cast it on the monster right next to it >.>

Old Dood

Old Dood

Middle-Age-Man

Join Date: May 2005

Lansing, Mi

W/Mo

His Blood Ritual never seems to last long enough though....

Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Shadowlight Order [SoR]

I love the cultist henchman. If I take the henchies my usual setup is Lina, Mhenlo/Alesia, Thom, and Eve/Claude. I do this with my ranger and my monk.

To help the AI take notice of me I try and get fairly close to Eve/Claude and that helps them take note of me. I also ctrl click my energy bar, but usually if I'm really low at like 5 -7. I get close to her and cast a heal or use a ranger attack skill and then that seems to help facilitate the blook ritual.

Overall I have noticed a definite performance increase to myself and the monk henchies. I don't bring the elems or Dunham as they suck up too much healing energy. They are fricken energy sponges. It's a lot easier to focus healing on just Thom and the cultist tanking than with a whole group. The only time I take a whole group adding Devona/Stefan, Cynn/Orion, and Dunham is when I need to do max damage quick like on missions. If nothing else they are at least good acting as extra health sponges.

Aracos79

Aracos79

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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The only other spell I've seen Claude cast is Deathly Swarm. And if you're taking him, I think Stefan is the better warrior hench (when he's available). Thom runs out of energy a lot faster (at least in my experience) so Claude spends a lot more time mindlessly BR'ing him. I don't have as much problem with that when I use Stefan. Maybe it's just me though.

The Son Of Morgoth

The Son Of Morgoth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Maryland

The Servants Of Morgoth

N/

i never use claude.....mostly since i play on my necro

AncientPC

AncientPC

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Ascalon 1

W/R

I dunno, I really like Claude. Let's me spam spells without any worry of energy management.

Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Shadowlight Order [SoR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by AncientPC
I dunno, I really like Claude. Let's me spam spells without any worry of energy management.
Exactly. Not only me but Lina and Mhenlo too. If Claude or Eve do nothing else they provide mindless energy management so you don't have to waste a skill slot on that.

Let's not forget the other really important reason that drives 80% of everything in Guild Wars -- LOOKS. Face it, they look badder than hell.

PieXags

PieXags

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Join Date: May 2005

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I think a better question is does anyone use Dunham or whatever the hell his name is? What the hell does he do? I use Claude all the time because he's great for energy management and I just have a lot more success. Usually I take everyone and get down to Dunham or Claude, and there's no contest.

Kalt

Kalt

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

He has his uses, the only thing that bothers me is that he's also casting blood ritual on Stefan and Little Thom. So he runs into the mob like Alesia does and end up getting killed.

Maybe those two are related.

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

I take him along because of his sense of humor, even when things get dicey he manages to pull a good fart joke.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

once again this is due to people's inability to control the henches. if you call your energy when it is low he will blood ritural you. of course hench commands do not always work immeditatly but if you call it enough they get the point.

Age

Age

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Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

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Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by schutz
you can say the same about any henchy except healers, orion uses fire storm when battle is over 95% of the time, thom and stefan use healing signet at completely stupid times and things like griffons sweep when theres no need then alesia heals herself, line will spam reversal of fortune/protective spirit and use shield of regen occasionally, dunham uses crippling anguish on a half dead caster and claude blood rituals warriors, reyna/aidan is the only half decent henchman but they will be the last 1 left alive have 50hp then use troll unguent and end up dying
It is Lina who uses those skills and not just on her self and she is very good the on;y bad thing is she doesn't have self heal so it is up to Alesia to heal her up if Alesia dies she has to spam those spell on her self to stay alive as to no self heals.Getting on to the Topic here I use Claude at certian times and places but the first to be tageted henchy is either Alesia or Orion as GWwiki says about it.I am not big on Dunham if he cam with Cunjure phantasm or burdden then he would be fine as he is now No and Stefan could use better sword skills griffon sweep and power atttack not many sword warriors use those.Here is a list of henchmen in what it say about them.

http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Henchmen

Xue Yi Liang

Xue Yi Liang

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Northern CA

Outlaws of the Water Margin

Mo/Me

I take Claude before I take Dunham.

Wessels

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Boyz from the Dwarf

Mo/N

all those henches have their value - as far as I can tell- except orion now ( because he uses firestorm , and we all know what that does post-patch ).

Lina is actually quite useful in helping out any healer with protection spells .
Alesia/Mhenlo are adequate healers
Claude/Eve do use BR frequently , although sometimes the timing is off
I never - or rarely- take the mesmer , so I can't really tell - but I'm pretty sure he has his value .

I have noticed Cynn is "smarter" when it comes to elementalist-henching . Occasionally pick her .

The Purple Pants Guy

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wessels
all those henches have their value - as far as I can tell- except orion now ( because he uses firestorm , and we all know what that does post-patch ).

Lina is actually quite useful in helping out any healer with protection spells .
Alesia/Mhenlo are adequate healers
Claude/Eve do use BR frequently , although sometimes the timing is off
I never - or rarely- take the mesmer , so I can't really tell - but I'm pretty sure he has his value .

I have noticed Cynn is "smarter" when it comes to elementalist-henching . Occasionally pick her .
I still take Orion. Quite often enemies stay halfway through the firestorm or sometimes they almost forget to run away from it. Or he often puts it near me when I'm getting swamped with warriors.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
I am not big on Dunham if he cam with Cunjure phantasm or burdden then he would be fine as he is now
I've seen him use burden. It was at a really stupid time, though...

Okay. As for Claude, yes, he can be stupid sometimes. But when he's not, he works very well. Therefore I take him.

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

Claude is essential if you're taking Alesia (who has no energy management) and Lina.

Other than that, I'm one of the people who really don't like him. He keeps invading my personal space! and giving br to a mesmer who is just about to use something for energy management is just plain stupid.

Hehe.. try rebirthing him first though and see how long it takes for him to suecide while you're rebirthing the rest of the team

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

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I tryed him a few times...He didn't help..

He literally used Blood Ritual on me (a ranger) when I had full energy..AFTER a battle...yea..

And in a battle he is useless. All have their bad sides.

Stefan - REFUSES to leave a battle. (you gotta be 40 miles away for him to break and retreat with you).
Reyna - Is the noobiest ranger I've seen..carries no good skills.
Orion - Spends the whole battle casting only to rain Firestorm down on dead corpses.
Little Thom - Same bad thing as Stefan + he can't hold aggro (he runs around sometimes).
Lina - Just randomly throws protection spells around (I have several stories about her).
Dunham - Can seem to be doing little more than spam Empathy.
Alesia - I can go on for days about - especially her love to rezing people at weird times.

But all are good in their own right too.

(Most people diss Dunham because they either dont like Mesmers in general or think that "mesmer" means "Interuptor" in some weird langauge and Dunham does none of that)

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

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Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

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Does anyone have a good how to use henchmen guild, I never knew about calling your engery when low to trigger diffrenent effects?

DarkSider84

DarkSider84

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Connecticut, USA

JAPS

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Can be useful sometimes, he casts wells decently often, and usually on a first drop in a mob, which is great timing especially when i'm on my warrior.

Xue Yi Liang

Xue Yi Liang

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Northern CA

Outlaws of the Water Margin

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
Stefan - REFUSES to leave a battle. (you gotta be 40 miles away for him to break and retreat with you).
Reyna - Is the noobiest ranger I've seen..carries no good skills.
Orion - Spends the whole battle casting only to rain Firestorm down on dead corpses.
Little Thom - Same bad thing as Stefan + he can't hold aggro (he runs around sometimes).
Lina - Just randomly throws protection spells around (I have several stories about her).
Dunham - Can seem to be doing little more than spam Empathy.
Alesia - I can go on for days about - especially her love to rezing people at weird times.

But all are good in their own right too.

(Most people diss Dunham because they either dont like Mesmers in general or think that "mesmer" means "Interuptor" in some weird langauge and Dunham does none of that)
The main difference between Stephan and Thom is that, when you attack a foe, Stephan (and Devona) charge ahead and attack. Thom just moves in at normal speed and attacks the enemy. When I solo with henchies with my monk I usually prefer Stephan or Devona because they charge ahead and keep distance between me and the enemy. As such they're better tanks than Thom.

I have nothing against mesmers - I run a mesmer character that I like a lot. But Dunham is pretty weak and uninspiring as far as mesmers go - on top of that he dies faster than anyone else in the pack, in my experience. That's why I usually leave him out.