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Rhova

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

06 May 2005 at 03:06 - 1

I'm a level 10 Ranger/Elementalist, and I cannot seem to do anything but wipe on this quest! Granted, I'm taking henchmen, I just find them easier, but every time I think I'm close to the end I'm not, and then I wipe. Does it ever actually end?

The frustration tonight - I get through all the char, I free prisoners - one says oh help my mage friends. Fine - run around pull the bridge run run run find mages. Run run run to pointy thingies with lightings. Kill kill kill, and Ruric stands there like an idiot, staring at a large door I can't figure out how to open! Do I just keep killing and eventually it becomes clear? I was so frustrated when I wiped at this point (and it took forever to get to that point) I logged in disgust.

Help! Do I just keep killing and something happens? What am I missing? I feel so dumb

Wind

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/Mo

06 May 2005 at 03:29 - 2

Did you try talking to Rurik?

Grish

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Band of the Hand

Mo/E

06 May 2005 at 04:00 - 3

Rurik is trying to open the door with an incantation, you have to defend him and the mages around the area. Wait for the mobs to attack, then attack only the ones that are attacking at that time. They'll take turns attacking, and if you are successful, Rurik will open the door and the mission ends.

Rhova

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

06 May 2005 at 12:46 - 4

Thank you! Frustrating to know I was *right* at the end, but at least I know that if I get to that point, it actually is the end.

Auntie I

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Veritas Invictus

E/Me

06 May 2005 at 13:14 - 5

This mission has got to be one of the most frustrating to figure out what to do. I swear I only finished it by accident. The instructions could be a little clearer, and not getting attacked when they're handed out might help too. Divided attention sucks.

Talus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hamilton, ON

E/Me

06 May 2005 at 13:35 - 6

This mission is very reminiscent of the story in the manual.

Auntie I

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Veritas Invictus

E/Me

06 May 2005 at 13:42 - 7

It does remind me of the story in the manual. Now if only I'd read the story BEFORE trying this quest there would have been fewer curse words uttered.

Xellos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

No Idea

06 May 2005 at 14:13 - 8

Practice, I know it might sound crazy from your experience, but back then, people did it when the charr came all at once, and kept coming. Now they just stand there and wait their turn to attack. I know it's very doable for experienced players to finish that mission under half an hour. Just practice, and perhaps experiment with skills!

Boubou

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quebec, Canada

L'ordre [LO]

Mo/W

06 May 2005 at 14:18 - 9

I was wondering, how do you complete the secondary objectives in that mission ? I got the mission, kill the mobs around that person.. but it doesn't seem to be quite that

Any help would be appreciated !

Pharalon

Beta Tester

Join Date: Jan 2005

Carebear Club

06 May 2005 at 14:41 - 10

If you're having trouble at the end, remember that you can close the big door you come through by pulling both levers. This leaves the Char with only 2 points of entry.

For the sidequest, you need to destroy the guys at the flame altar. Just follow the ember bearers until they open the gates to the temple, then go in and clean up.

Boubou

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quebec, Canada

L'ordre [LO]

Mo/W

06 May 2005 at 15:35 - 11

Ohhhh... it seems that.. I'm too eager to kill

I will try to follow them instead of slaughter them!

Thanks !

Marksmann

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

In my house in America

Knights of the Fell Republic, (KOFR)

E/Mo

06 May 2005 at 17:13 - 12

During the BWE's, my party and I, learned that if you leave Rurik back behind the first gate, you can go around and use the Bait & Slaughter tactic to wipe out ALL of the charr in the area below the temple fairly easily with mid-level characters. Then open the gate for Rurik, he'll go to open the temple, and with no charr to worry about, you can sit down and play a hand of Texas Hold'em while you're waiting. The secondary quest had a bug in it during the BWE's, and so was un-doable. I've heard that it's been fixed and can be completed now. The gate to the flame altar will need to be opened to gain access, in order to rain on the charr ember bearers' and fire priests' parade.

Soul Monarch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the between.

Heros Etc.

Me/N

06 May 2005 at 17:25 - 13

I have noticed some changes in this mission from Beta.

At that final point, in Beta, Charr used to ambush you hard. Attacking from all sides at once, I would usually end up in the very center trying to defend the final mage.

Now, each side attacks in turn, three charr to a group. As once the final group (the boss) attacks, the mission is over. I was able to do the retail version of this first try, without losing any of my mages.

Keep your eye on the mini-map. As soon as one of the groups of charr moves, sprint into counter them. The next doesn't seem to charge again until that group is dead. As long as you get to each group before it attacks the Mage, this mission is absolute cake.

smitty-gw

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

New York

06 May 2005 at 17:42 - 14

And kudos to you for your success with the hench.

That in itself is a skill in my book

Those useless bastards.

salatious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Richmond, Va

Looking for a better Guild

E/Mo

08 May 2005 at 23:23 - 15

were is this flame alter? fr the bonus mission? i cant seem to find it..

and on a sife note how may of the Charr that cary the flame tourch in total do you have to kill? the only one i have seen is that one that comes at you when you first get the bonus mission?

Erasmus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

09 May 2005 at 01:03 - 16

For the secondary, head right just before the bridge. Stay right until you are out of the tar then take a left. There is an NPC on the left. After talking to her, a group of ember bearers will start walking. Follow them at a distance. If you get agro from them, just run up to the path to the bridge but go elft and the head straight and you will see a closed gate in front of you. When the ember bearers approach it, it will open.

If you get agro, let someone with rez stay behind to rez you when you get there. After that gate is open, you can kill everything. Easiest to not get agro in the first place though ( but people are generally too stupid to pull that off).

salatious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Richmond, Va

Looking for a better Guild

E/Mo

09 May 2005 at 14:00 - 17

so once i get in the gate just kill everything in there and im done with the secondary mission

thanks for the help im going to give it a shot tonight

Orfusmoon

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

10 May 2005 at 03:14 - 18

I finished this mission, after the 4th try with henchmen....kept getting stuck on things, and I played stupid a few times, only to have the connecting screen for the academy come up and....not connect. Now I have to do the stupid thing AGAIN. I am getting to know this map very well. Well, at least this time I can look for the flame carriers.