I am thinking of leaving these forums..

edit - shanksie for some reason i can't seem to make this thread a sticky on both forums, so as by his own words Marik intended this more for the SELL forum, thats where i will sticky it for now.


-This is mainly all the ventari's sell forum-



Well I am thinking of leaving Gwg.These used to be really good forums until all these new admins come and start making up worthless rules that don't accomplish anything and ban people left and right for STUPID reasons.GWG YOU NEED TO GET NEW MODS FOR VENTARI'S SELL WITH GOOD ATTITUDES!Most of your mods are alright and kool but come on look at some of your mods really..and look who banned the most and you'll see the problem =/.
Gwg is losing members like crazy from all these stupid bans and people leaving because of the mods,if you don't do anything soon about these mods,I will leave gwg,and I won't be the only one,after a while everybody is going to leave because half of the people get banned here in Ventari's sell,and they'll also leave because of the bad mods who ban like crazy..

Sign this if you think GWG needs better mods with better attitudes and they don't call people "idiots".


And what about this new rule where you can't give free bumps or comment how nice a person's item is?
We only get to bump once per 24 hours...so why can't we have people comment our items or give us a free bump because we have a nice item? I don't understand. Either shorten the Length of bumps or let us be able to get free bumps again.Make the length like 12 hours that seems fair doesn't it?

yea. guidelines should be more broad.

I agree with you 2 guys come on mods give us a break

I agree, but part of the reason is so many people sell crap... if we had a "high end" item forum, we would be better off.

I usualy do this or rpgtraders when this site pisses me off, but I agree with you Marik.

/signed.

Too many threads go unnoticed with like 10 bumps a day...etc...nothing done about them (cannot blame current mods for this - not enough mods atm). Plus alot of new ppl that can't read rules (obviously). And the selling of worthless junk...in which the OP just keeps bumping and doesn't get a clue.

Need MORE mods, IMO. Banning the people who multiple bump, put 10 threads up at a time within 24 hours, etc...

And yeah a high-end item forum would work. But newbzorz would prolly post their junk there too, lol.

I definately agree, I see many people being banned and also I see less members posting then I did before. I'm not at liberty to say they are abusing their powers... Maybe they aren't and actually are doing something... But everytime I see less members.

/signed

im down for a high end forum and 12 hour bumping for sure

I agree on having more moderators, and I think that banning is quite out of control.

To me, the only reasons for banning anyone, ESPECIALLY in the Ventari's Sell forum, are:

1. Creating multiple usernames to artificially inflate your auctions.
2. Showing a blatant disregard for the multiple thread/multiple bump rules. This would be AFTER a warning or two, probably sent both on the forum and via PM.
3. Publically slamming the quality or asking prices of posters, but only again AFTER a warning or two.

I concur that the posting of "nice item" or "free bump" is not a cardinal sin and shouldn't be dealt with harshly - but multiple abuses of this (especially by the same user in the same thread) is another story. In many instances, this is done to recognize the truly outstanding "high quality" items posted on the board.

The Ventari's Sell forum of guildwarsguru is one of the best out there, far surpassing almost all of the other sites. I think some of the moderators do a very good job of nipping things in the bud, but in the end I think that some of the guys (e.g. id0l, FCtSteveO, Marik, etc.) should be granted some limited moderator powers to help enforce the bumping and multiple thread rules. This will help cut down on the bannings, etc. if the users can consistently see it being done to every thread that is in violation.

Having no Life FTW!
PWR 2 NO LIFE!
Rofl,Well you see I would love having a job as a limited time moderator I promise I would be as mature and hard working as possible.

PS:I have no life ONLY In the winter when it's cold.I hate the cold,I am in hibernation mode here is my day:

Wake up,Go to the gym work out lift weights etc,come home make a pwr shake and take a shower,make something to eat,get on msn talk to some people,get on GWG and GW.

/signed

but hey, the main problem here are the guys who post crap items like trees in the forrest =/

but the idea of a highend area would be nice wouldn´t it?

Quote: Originally Posted by Marik-Strife Well I am thinking of leaving Gwg.These used to be really good forums until all these new admins come and start making up worthless rules that don't accomplish anything and ban people left and right for STUPID reasons. GWG YOU NEED TO GET NEW MODS FOR VENTARI'S SELL WITH GOOD ATTITUDES!Most of your mods are alright and kool but come on look at some of your mods really..and look who banned the most and you'll see the problem =/.
Gwg is losing members like crazy from all these stupid bans and people leaving because of the mods,if you don't do anything soon about these mods,I will leave gwg,and I won't be the only one,after a while everybody is going to leave because half of the people get banned here in Ventari's sell,and they'll also leave because of the bad mods who abuse their "banning pwrs"

Sign this if you think GWG needs better mods with better attitudes and they don't call people "idiots".


And what about this new rule where you can't give free bumps or comment how nice a person's item is?
We only get to bump once per 24 hours...so why can't we have people comment our items or give us a free bump because we have a nice item? I don't understand. Either shorten the Length of bumps or let us be able to get free bumps again.Make the length like 12 hours that seems fair doesn't it? from the top:

"worthless rules" help keep everything fair for everyone and as such all the rules apply to everyone. Just because you see no worth in a rule doesn't mean that it has no worth.

"ban people left and right for STUPID reasons" Anyone that has been banned simply needs to speak to Aria or Inde if they feel the ban is unfair / unjust / out of order. I really don't want to ban anyone as obviously these forums need users in order for them to work. However the users do have to follow the guidelines. If you don't agree with a guideline then the "Site Feedback" forum is the place for you to offer your suggestions.If i was of a mind to i could easily increase my ban total - i could cease to send ppl polite pm's pointing out certain violations. However as banning ppl is counter productive i try and avoid this. But if ppl ignore pm's and comments posted on their threads i really do have very little choice. GwG operates a 3 user note policy, in that you have to earn 3 user notes before you can be banned (the obvious exceptions aside). So whilst you may feel the 3rd user note "stupid" you must ask yourself what were the other 2 user notes for?

"look who banned the most" that will be me - i am more active than any other mod in the Ventari's Sell forums so it's only natural that my ban total is more than anyone else - especially if you take into account that the SELL forum is about the most active forum on GWG. However in the time before i had a ban-stick i was still as active in modding the forums, and probably caused just the same number of bans. (for those that aren't aware - there is a Staff Forum and moderators post in there when they feel someone deserves a ban - for 3 user notes or whatever). The guidelines i enforce have been approved by Aria / Inde, and infact all my decisions follow the guidelines they set me. So blaming a particular admin for all your woes isn't really very accurate.

"bad mods who abuse their "banning pwrs"" - see the above paragraphs. Any ban is subject to appeal. If you feel i am abusing my powers then please feel free to bring this up with any of my "superiors". I apply the guidelines as clearly posted on this site, if people don't follow them then i do take action - i'd be a pretty worthless mod if i didn't.

"don't call people "idiots"." As for calling ppl idiots - afaik i have only called one person an "idiot". Which in my defence was pretty deserved as they had clearly failed to read 2 or 3 posted warnings. And if "idiot" is the worst of my sins then tbh i feel pretty happy about things. Whilst i may feel like posting much harsher comments the fact they i have only slipped and called someone an idiot once is pretty amazing imho.

You can say how nice a persons item is - it's called a private message.

As for "free bumps" - if you thought this through - the smarter ppl would simply ask guildmates or friends on GwG to free bump their posts. Pretty much along the lines of "if you free bump my thread, i'll free bump yours" and as such we may aswell not bother with any rule regarding bumping at all.

I do have more i can say, but as shocking as this sounds i am going to do some rl stuff. I will leave this open for now, but if it turns into a flamefest i will be closing it.

eek i knew i missed something - increasing the frequency of "legal" bumps simply wouldn't work.

As it stands a thread will leave page 1 in about 1 hour, and be on page 4 in about 4 hours, and be on page 8 after maybe 10-14 hours (all depending on the time of day, aswell as the actual day). In 24 hours a thread with zero replies will be on about page 10-20. Decreasing the 24 hours to 12 will do nothing to solve this as EVERYONE would be entitled to bump at the same time - just 12 hours earlier.

However if you wish this to be considered - then as posted above - the Site Feedback forum is the place to visit.

Infact so we can have an open discussion - i'll sticky this for a few days.

Please feel free to post your POLITE comment and i will read it. However normal GwG guidelines apply so if you want to flame / be insulting - send me a pm instead.

Shanks

/signed

this forum would be absolute chaos if there was a 12 hour bumping rule, leave it as 24hour also a "high end" forum is a good idea should be considered.

there should be more mods however, as far as i can see shanksie is the only active 1

gah - thread spam

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t=71602&page=2

coolyguy trying and failing to sell what may be considered a "godly" item

what you see is under 2 pages of bidding - what a mod sees is a thread that has had almost 90 - yes NINETY - posts that simply say "free bump" or "nice item". Cooly is trying to sell an item, not get everyones opinion on his item.

That thread is one of the main reasons the "free bump" "nice item" rule was introduced.

I get what you are saying shanksie about how threads would still get pushed back if bump time was lowered but it would help sellers and buyers who need to update their threads and such if they could post sooner. But i agree on most other things you mentioned

Quote: Originally Posted by arbiter

On another note, and trying sticking to the topic , the bump time limit is fine IMO. The forum just needs multiple sections (caster items [then sorted by type], warrior items [then sorted by type], etc. would work well I think).

Peace,
id0l

Edit - shanksie - as stated - GwG guidelines apply - which includes no advertsiing.

look here, i did a search german forums for all of u who wont be able to read this

1st link: swords axes hammers
2 : bows staffs
3 : upgrades
4 : shields and focus items:
5 : other things, materials ect.
6 : wtb forums
7 : pc forums i think?

well im not saying this is the perfect set up but its a idea of what u can get

and for id0l i read what someone said about it i read id0l's reply and i dont see the reason why its been deleted.

i like the forums and i would lov to see this get fixed.

/signed