I will avenge you!
eom
For each dead ally, you gain 10 seconds of health regeneration +3-6, and your attack speed increases by 33%.
anybody know how this works in practice?
specifically, I was thinking of using it w/my necro secondary.
does it count up the dead bodies on the ground, or what?
anybody know how this works in practice?
specifically, I was thinking of using it w/my necro secondary.
does it count up the dead bodies on the ground, or what?
unienaule
Yes, but they have to be allies. Allies are party members/pets.
Shimus DarkRaven
The person above me is right, they have be allies, only then do you get the advantage of the skill, imho, it's not worth the slot, just bring a +8 healing breeze/healing hands on a W/Mo, lol =)
--The Shim
--The Shim
mortalis doleo
two posts and still, nobody mentions the current uber-build FotM, that nobody can stop???
what's wrong? IWAY is the most powerfull skill a warrior can have!!!!!
for a moment of seriouseness...
IWAY has an entire build based on it, which i dont wanna elaborate on...
if you do wish to use IWAY as a warrior, it should mainly be used in a big battle (hoh or gvg) for it to be useful.
i would even suggest getting 6 W/R with pets, and letting your pets die, making you have a very fast attack rate. then, since you are attacking so fast, throw an order necro in, to increas the dps. the last spot should be a tainted necro, to make the entire enemy team suffer from desease, while your team is immune to that.
oops...
what's wrong? IWAY is the most powerfull skill a warrior can have!!!!!
for a moment of seriouseness...
IWAY has an entire build based on it, which i dont wanna elaborate on...
if you do wish to use IWAY as a warrior, it should mainly be used in a big battle (hoh or gvg) for it to be useful.
i would even suggest getting 6 W/R with pets, and letting your pets die, making you have a very fast attack rate. then, since you are attacking so fast, throw an order necro in, to increas the dps. the last spot should be a tainted necro, to make the entire enemy team suffer from desease, while your team is immune to that.
oops...
Shimus DarkRaven
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Originally Posted by mortalis doleo
two posts and still, nobody mentions the current uber-build FotM, that nobody can stop???
what's wrong? IWAY is the most powerfull skill a warrior can have!!!!!
for a moment of seriouseness...
IWAY has an entire build based on it, which i dont wanna elaborate on...
if you do wish to use IWAY as a warrior, it should mainly be used in a big battle (hoh or gvg) for it to be useful.
i would even suggest getting 6 W/R with pets, and letting your pets die, making you have a very fast attack rate. then, since you are attacking so fast, throw an order necro in, to increas the dps. the last spot should be a tainted necro, to make the entire enemy team suffer from desease, while your team is immune to that.
oops... He wasn't referring to builds, that's why we didn't mention it.
--The Shim
what's wrong? IWAY is the most powerfull skill a warrior can have!!!!!
for a moment of seriouseness...
IWAY has an entire build based on it, which i dont wanna elaborate on...
if you do wish to use IWAY as a warrior, it should mainly be used in a big battle (hoh or gvg) for it to be useful.
i would even suggest getting 6 W/R with pets, and letting your pets die, making you have a very fast attack rate. then, since you are attacking so fast, throw an order necro in, to increas the dps. the last spot should be a tainted necro, to make the entire enemy team suffer from desease, while your team is immune to that.
oops... He wasn't referring to builds, that's why we didn't mention it.
--The Shim
eom
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Originally Posted by Shimus DarkRaven
The person above me is right, they have be allies, only then do you get the advantage of the skill, imho, it's not worth the slot, j
--The Shim
psshh......you should see my party in action.....I'd be superman w/that skill.
I play pve w/a e/m friend of mine on lan and we take a monk henchie w/us.
the charr rangers shoot over the top of me, killing the monk, and the fighters rush past me to kill my friend.
I had to put the rez sig back in my lineup.
--The Shim
psshh......you should see my party in action.....I'd be superman w/that skill.
I play pve w/a e/m friend of mine on lan and we take a monk henchie w/us.
the charr rangers shoot over the top of me, killing the monk, and the fighters rush past me to kill my friend.
I had to put the rez sig back in my lineup.
Shimus DarkRaven
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Originally Posted by eom
psshh......you should see my party in action.....I'd be superman w/that skill.
I play pve w/a e/m friend of mine on lan and we take a monk henchie w/us.
the charr rangers shoot over the top of me, killing the monk, and the fighters rush past me to kill my friend.
I had to put the rez sig back in my lineup. It was my opinion for PVE not to use it, but if it's your incentive, I won't rip on it. I just prefer other skills in the slot it could potentially soak up, is all. Now PVP..totally different story.
--The Shim
I play pve w/a e/m friend of mine on lan and we take a monk henchie w/us.
the charr rangers shoot over the top of me, killing the monk, and the fighters rush past me to kill my friend.
I had to put the rez sig back in my lineup. It was my opinion for PVE not to use it, but if it's your incentive, I won't rip on it. I just prefer other skills in the slot it could potentially soak up, is all. Now PVP..totally different story.
--The Shim
eom
I haven't even found it yet.
I was mostly hoping I could count my minions --- if it's just my softshell party, I don't have room for it.
I was mostly hoping I could count my minions --- if it's just my softshell party, I don't have room for it.
mortalis doleo
Quote:
Originally Posted by eom
psshh......you should see my party in action.....I'd be superman w/that skill.
I play pve w/a e/m friend of mine on lan and we take a monk henchie w/us.
the charr rangers shoot over the top of me, killing the monk, and the fighters rush past me to kill my friend.
I had to put the rez sig back in my lineup. you should have res sig in your line-up always... especially as a warrior...
but nvm, it doesn't effect minions (i wish)
I play pve w/a e/m friend of mine on lan and we take a monk henchie w/us.
the charr rangers shoot over the top of me, killing the monk, and the fighters rush past me to kill my friend.
I had to put the rez sig back in my lineup. you should have res sig in your line-up always... especially as a warrior...
but nvm, it doesn't effect minions (i wish)
Zakarr
Me/W or W/Me with Illusionary Weaponry + IWAY with lots of allied dead pets around =
Although you have to do melee attacks.
Although you have to do melee attacks.
Shimus DarkRaven
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Originally Posted by mortalis doleo
you should have res sig in your line-up always... especially as a warrior...
but nvm, it doesn't effect minions (i wish) Assuming you meant minions and IWAY: I wish, but alas, they fall in particles when the die <regular> But if they did, imagine..wow...overpowered! =)
--The Shim
but nvm, it doesn't effect minions (i wish) Assuming you meant minions and IWAY: I wish, but alas, they fall in particles when the die <regular> But if they did, imagine..wow...overpowered! =)
--The Shim
eom
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Originally Posted by Zakarr
Me/W or W/Me with Illusionary Weaponry + IWAY with lots of allied dead pets around =
Although you have to do melee attacks.
that's what I need to do --- I need to ally myself w/some pets.
or maybe more wimpy henchies.
so, could I just leave them dead on the ground for the whole mission and keep casting this?
dead guys don't split gold or exp, do they?
Although you have to do melee attacks.
that's what I need to do --- I need to ally myself w/some pets.
or maybe more wimpy henchies.
so, could I just leave them dead on the ground for the whole mission and keep casting this?
dead guys don't split gold or exp, do they?
Shimus DarkRaven
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Originally Posted by eom
that's what I need to do --- I need to ally myself w/some pets.
or maybe more wimpy henchies.
so, could I just leave them dead on the ground for the whole mission and keep casting this?
dead guys don't split gold or exp, do they? No, you have to be "In range" of the dead people for it to work. And if they're still in your party, doesn't matter everything applies <IE: Division of droprates, gold splits>
--The Shim
Edit Reason: I was on crack, switched the death of division EXP split to reflect what really happens.
or maybe more wimpy henchies.
so, could I just leave them dead on the ground for the whole mission and keep casting this?
dead guys don't split gold or exp, do they? No, you have to be "In range" of the dead people for it to work. And if they're still in your party, doesn't matter everything applies <IE: Division of droprates, gold splits>
--The Shim
Edit Reason: I was on crack, switched the death of division EXP split to reflect what really happens.
Holy Bladefire
Hey Everybody I am brand new to this thread and this website, so forgive me for not using the proper lingo. In my experience with this skill I have been able to use it in pve with a minion master in my party. He kept creating them and they kept dying, once I was able to maintain skill for about 40 seconds. So yes in my experience if someone in you group is a minion master then they make you very difficult to kill.
eom
well, if I ever find it, it'll be very easy to check out.
and god, would that be supercool, as I can create my own minions.
and god, would that be supercool, as I can create my own minions.
Rico Carridan
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Originally Posted by Shimus DarkRaven
No, you have to be "In range" of the dead people for it to work. And if they're still in your party, doesn't matter everything applies <IE: Division of droprates, gold splits, and lower EXP>
--The Shim I don't know about droprates or goldsplits, but you definitely get more xp if your allies are dead. Just tested: kill a rockshot with Claude in party - 50xp; kill rockshot with Claude dead, 100xp.
Rico
--The Shim I don't know about droprates or goldsplits, but you definitely get more xp if your allies are dead. Just tested: kill a rockshot with Claude in party - 50xp; kill rockshot with Claude dead, 100xp.
Rico
SilenceWeaver
personally, i think iway is overpowered.
not necessarily in pve or lions arena but when it is composed with those dam w/r s in tombs its completely nuts and very hard to stop.
i mean with the current tombs setup, thats a minute of high health regen and maxed increased attack speed, that is cheap, recharges before it ends, can be reused, cannot be ended, and cannot be countered.
granted there are ways to disrupt the iway wars in tombs, but iway has been fotm for like 2-3 months, so obvioulsy it is not as eaasy to counter as ppl say/think, especially when the iway build is being used by a smart group.
not necessarily in pve or lions arena but when it is composed with those dam w/r s in tombs its completely nuts and very hard to stop.
i mean with the current tombs setup, thats a minute of high health regen and maxed increased attack speed, that is cheap, recharges before it ends, can be reused, cannot be ended, and cannot be countered.
granted there are ways to disrupt the iway wars in tombs, but iway has been fotm for like 2-3 months, so obvioulsy it is not as eaasy to counter as ppl say/think, especially when the iway build is being used by a smart group.
RoF
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Originally Posted by Zakarr
Me/W or W/Me with Illusionary Weaponry + IWAY with lots of allied dead pets around =
Although you have to do melee attacks. If you're using IW why not just use Flurry?
Although you have to do melee attacks. If you're using IW why not just use Flurry?
Shimus DarkRaven
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rico Carridan
I don't know about droprates or goldsplits, but you definitely get more xp if your allies are dead. Just tested: kill a rockshot with Claude in party - 50xp; kill rockshot with Claude dead, 100xp.
Rico Yeah, now that I read what I wrote, Rico, you're right. You don't recieve any exp when you're dead on the ground, why would henchmen? Going to edit that post too. Thanks for clearing it up.
But yes, droprates/gold is still divided I believe.
--The Shim
Rico Yeah, now that I read what I wrote, Rico, you're right. You don't recieve any exp when you're dead on the ground, why would henchmen? Going to edit that post too. Thanks for clearing it up.
But yes, droprates/gold is still divided I believe.
--The Shim
bizarresk
hmmm minions. i was farming sorrows with me as a W (with iway), ele, 2 monks, minion necro. guess what!! with some minions dead, dunno how many and NO party member dead, i tryied to activate it and it freakin worked!! WTH??? can someone explain? i had IWAY for like 30secs maybe
Shimus DarkRaven
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Originally Posted by bizarresk
hmmm minions. i was farming sorrows with me as a W (with iway), ele, 2 monks, minion necro. guess what!! with some minions dead, dunno how many and NO party member dead, i tryied to activate it and it freakin worked!! WTH??? can someone explain? i had IWAY for like 30secs maybe
Fiends/Minions might, themselves, leave corpses when they die, and if they died under your control, they are allies. That's how it works, plain and simple. Other pets like ranger animals and whatnot also count.
--The Shim
--The Shim
Zakarr
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Originally Posted by RoF
If you're using IW why not just use Flurry?
"I Will Avenge You!"
Shout. For each dead ally, you gain 10 seconds of Health regeneration +(Min: 3 - Max: 7) and your attack speed increases by 33%.
Well, if four allies are dead while using IWAY, I get 4 x 33% attack speed. Flurry gives just single 33% increase to attack speed. Players under IWAY seems to attack so fast that I assume attack speed increases stacks up to 133% which is current cap?
Shout. For each dead ally, you gain 10 seconds of Health regeneration +(Min: 3 - Max: 7) and your attack speed increases by 33%.
Well, if four allies are dead while using IWAY, I get 4 x 33% attack speed. Flurry gives just single 33% increase to attack speed. Players under IWAY seems to attack so fast that I assume attack speed increases stacks up to 133% which is current cap?
fiery
great as an IWAY in tombs... TA... iway is a skill that increases attack speed even without bodies having to be on the floor to use.. if there are some.. thats a plus... i actually use it in the rambo build with tigers in TA.. for increase attack speed and adrealine gain..and i was testing out with berserker stance.