HELP! I left Pre-searing and didnt pick up any skills! - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Abigail

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/E

21 Nov 2005 at 20:51 - 1

hello I am new to this game... And I was a bit confused with everything.. and I did some quests and got lvled up to 4 and picked a R/E

then Sir TYdus asked me if I wanted to go fight or something...

SO I did... and now I am at post-searing... And I have heard that you can get only certian skill from certian trainers... Since I didn't pick up any skills from Pre searing... Can I still get them now?? I can't go back right?

I hope I can because if I can't then it looks like i missed out on all these skills:

Ranger: Charm Animal, Comfort Animal, Dual Shot, Ignite Arrows. Point Blank Shot, Power Shot, Read the Wind, Troll Unguent

Elementalist: Flare

What can I do? Or do I have to start over?

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

21 Nov 2005 at 20:53 - 2

I would suggest you store all the money and things you wish to keep in the account storage and start over. Otherwise you will have to spend skill points on a lot of those skills and it is not worth it.

hcl40u

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

21 Nov 2005 at 20:54 - 3

You definetely missed out on some very needed skills there. You can buy these skills in town but the more skills you buy the more expensive it gets(up to 1k max) and since you're new it would be best to just start over.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

21 Nov 2005 at 20:55 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abigail

What can I do? Or do I have to start over?

keep this character in post sear for storage and start another.

back in a moment with some guides to help.

you will want to save the skill points you would have spent on skills.

EDIT

these should help
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...-10-id1195.php

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...lon-id1264.php

Great Xorn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragons of the Souls <Officer>

W/Mo

21 Nov 2005 at 20:56 - 5

I would also suggest the same thing. You could stay and buy skills in ascalon that you missed, but in the end, those skill points would be wasted and would cause you to waste more time leveling at the end of the game just to buy skills. Just start over. Now that you have a basic understanding of the game, it should go much faster.

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

21 Nov 2005 at 21:10 - 6

i've found i have silly amounts of skill points left over, i guess i could change my secondary and spend a few, but i've only been getting skills that i need to use at some time, although i understand people that play PvP's need to unlock everything.

Abigail

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/E

21 Nov 2005 at 22:41 - 7

OK... But I have a NICE bow that I got... can I give that bow to my new charector? and how about my money? Do all my chars have access to the same bank box?

Abigail

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/E

21 Nov 2005 at 22:49 - 8

and what are skill points? are they the same as attribute points?

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

21 Nov 2005 at 22:49 - 9

Look for the "Xunlai Agents" in Ascalon City and talk to one of them to open up the account storage. Anything placed in it is accessable to any of your characters, including gold.

Even if you name the new character the same as the old your armor and customized weapons will not be usable by the new one, but everything else will be. Salvage any runes or upgrades and/or sell the custom stuff.

Don't worry about weapons too much as you'll be getting better ones soon anyway, unless of course you bought a high-end weapon.

D E A D S Y

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oregon

N/Me

21 Nov 2005 at 22:50 - 10

just delete it. you aren't that far anyway unless you did A LOT of pre-sear quests. delete, remake and change your ranger/ele to a ranger monk because ranger/eles suck.

Abigail

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/E

21 Nov 2005 at 22:50 - 11

someone gave me a purple color bow.. that is really nice... It is not a custom one though.. and I would like to keep it. I hope I can.. it not a bind of equip sort of thing is it?

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

21 Nov 2005 at 22:51 - 12

Skill points are used to purchase skills. You will get many skills as quest rewards, just like those you failed to get the first time through pre-sear. Others have to be bought from skill traders or acquired with a Signet of Capture, which is also a skill you buy from a trader.

[edit] You earn a skill point with each level up and each mission you complete, plus one from a pre-sear quest. You continue to earn skill points after level 20.

Abigail

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/E

21 Nov 2005 at 22:52 - 13

why do ranger ele suck? I have AOE... but healing would be nice I guess.....

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

21 Nov 2005 at 22:52 - 14

If you didn't customize it then the new toon can use it, just put it in storage.

FazeDx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

21 Nov 2005 at 22:53 - 15

put all your stuff in the storage. if u didnt custimize the bow then ur other char can use it. When u make the new char that char can access the same stuff in the storage. hope i helped.

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

21 Nov 2005 at 22:54 - 16

Quote:

delete, remake and change your ranger/ele to a ranger monk because ranger/eles suck.

That's just a personal opinion and /mo or /elem are both OK. Early on you'll probably only use/need ranger skills anyway but later you might experiment with those from the 2nd. Don't worry about it.

Arcien Trueflight

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Retrieving an arrow from my latest kill.

Nova Alliance [Nova]

R/E

21 Nov 2005 at 22:56 - 17

What these guys said.

Also, R/E's DO NOT suck, and even though I play a R/Mo, a R/E is still a good class and is perfectly capable of being useful, as one of my friends has proven.

Abigail

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/E

21 Nov 2005 at 22:58 - 18

actually the monk skills seem pretty good... Might try that out....

Shimus DarkRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Titusville, PA <nowhere>

KOD <Knights of the Dragonrose><Guild Officer>

W/Mo

21 Nov 2005 at 23:22 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abigail

hello I am new to this game... And I was a bit confused with everything.. and I did some quests and got lvled up to 4 and picked a R/E

then Sir TYdus asked me if I wanted to go fight or something...

SO I did... and now I am at post-searing... And I have heard that you can get only certian skill from certian trainers... Since I didn't pick up any skills from Pre searing... Can I still get them now?? I can't go back right?

I hope I can because if I can't then it looks like i missed out on all these skills:

Ranger: Charm Animal, Comfort Animal, Dual Shot, Ignite Arrows. Point Blank Shot, Power Shot, Read the Wind, Troll Unguent

Elementalist: Flare

What can I do? Or do I have to start over?

Start only over again if you feel like doing everything again. But, imho, half those skills are eaisly gotten post-searing <master ranger nente outside post-searing ascalon gives charm animal/and essential skills>

and Flare can be purchased, I believe. With skill points/bit of gold.

But if you'd rather save skillpoints/money, remake the character, simple as that.

--The Shim

Cyron Blade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Holland

Low Land Lions

W/

23 Nov 2005 at 12:00 - 20

Skill points are really needed for other skills, cause if you spend them on skills you can get through quests its not neccesaire spend skill points on it.
From the 75 skills for each profession there are 15 elite skills.
These are given via a signet of capture wich cost... 1 skill point.
Then you have 60 skills left to collect.
From that 60 there are 18 to 20 skills wich you cant get with a quest and that one you have to buy too with a skill point.
So totally you need between 60-70 skill points ingame to collect all the skills and unlock them for both professions.
Through missions you collect 20 and with some quests you collect some points too.
The rest you collect through leveling. Each lvl you get 1 skill point.
So maybe you collect normally ingame between 50-60 skill points.
The other skill points needed can be given when you level up after level 20.
You dont reaise in lvl but you DO earn a skill point.
Thats the way why leveling after level 20 doesnt mean you have completed the game :P

HOXMAN

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

TN, USA

Amber Order [AMBR]

E/Me

23 Nov 2005 at 12:14 - 21

If this ranger was the OP's first and only char and he/she deleted the char but put items in the storage beforehand, would starting a new char and crossing it over to access the storage.. would the item still be there?

Don Vito Corleone

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Guildless

R/

23 Nov 2005 at 12:18 - 22

dont worry

just continue the game without these skills and u'll get them again from another quest near ascalon or in ascalon.

dont use ur skill point just wait and do quests but not missions

Advice: if u decided to delete this character dont take ele as secondary because ele skills need alot of energy

my second profession was necro and its very cool with ranger in the starting game and dont think of monk as secondary because no benefit of his skills except resrruct. u already have troll urgunt which is enough.

as necro in secondary u'll can use animate bone horror and later well of blood and many hex and enchantment needs only 5 or 10 energy

Azn D

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

DMV

R/

23 Nov 2005 at 13:51 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abigail

hello I am new to this game... And I was a bit confused with everything.. and I did some quests and got lvled up to 4 and picked a R/E

then Sir TYdus asked me if I wanted to go fight or something...

SO I did... and now I am at post-searing... And I have heard that you can get only certian skill from certian trainers... Since I didn't pick up any skills from Pre searing... Can I still get them now?? I can't go back right?

I hope I can because if I can't then it looks like i missed out on all these skills:

Ranger: Charm Animal, Comfort Animal, Dual Shot, Ignite Arrows. Point Blank Shot, Power Shot, Read the Wind, Troll Unguent

Elementalist: Flare

What can I do? Or do I have to start over?

People don't have Exclamation Points over their head for nothing....... Even when i started back in the day i figured that exclamation points meant something. Start reading these forums more often LOL

mortalis doleo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

my house

The Cutting Edge [TCE]

N/

23 Nov 2005 at 14:34 - 24

as for choosing a secondary for your ranger, don't worry about it, really.

most ranger builds don't use their secondary at all, and those who do, use it only a bit (except warrior).
that means you can switch profession later, and buy the one or two skills you need.

r/e - you will mainly be using conjure spells (conjre frost/flame/lightning), to add extra damage to your attacks. if you dont want this secondary, try not wanting it for a different reason than energy.

r/me - this can either be a trapper or interrupter... those are the main possibilities.

r/n - this is probably good for degeneration builds, relying on conditions and hexes, to cause a massive degen to several enemies.

r/mo - what i can see here is you smiting through your pet. im sure there are other options, but don't expect to be healing too much...

r/w - probably using apply poison with warrior skills to cause big damage and degen. this will probably be a melee fighter if you choose to use your secondary, so make sure you like that idea...

that's what i can offer...