lvl 17 protection prayers = -2 energy Prot spirit?

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Jezter14
Frost Gate Guardian
#1
Is this still possible?
I tried over and over with my monk and could not get the energy loss to be
-2 per hit?

Tks.
Lasareth
Lasareth
Aquarius
#2
It is not.
Shimus DarkRaven
Shimus DarkRaven
Desert Nomad
#3
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Originally Posted by Lasareth
It is not.
Right =)

--The Shim
Yichi
Yichi
Furnace Stoker
#4
Technicalyl it can..

healing prayers scalp, sup healing, staff or anythign with mod to healing prayers, max healing atts = 17. but even at max percent you have a 1 in 10 chance of actually hitting it, so yeah basically not probbable, but technically possible
Lasareth
Lasareth
Aquarius
#5
Yes you can reach 17, but it has no effect on Protective Bond's energy caveat. Still -3 per hit.

There's no way to reach level 18, so we don't know what happens there.
Pharalon
Pharalon
Beta Tester
#6
It'll hit 2 energy at 18 prot
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Jezter14
Frost Gate Guardian
#7
tks for the input guys. And MistressYichi tks for your input but we're talkin protection prayers here, i'm not sure what thread you are in lol.
Hockster
Hockster
Banned
#8
The skill description say -3 to -6. I'd need to see a screenie of a -2 post nerf.
Pharalon
Pharalon
Beta Tester
#9
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Originally Posted by Hockster
The skill description say -3 to -6. I'd need to see a screenie of a -2 post nerf.
Don't need a screenie. All skills are clamped at 0 and 15 (ie they're always whole numbers at those values). From there you can work out any of the breakpoints, keeping in mind things always round to the closest whole number.
Pevil Lihatuh
Pevil Lihatuh
Jungle Guide
#10
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Originally Posted by Hockster
The skill description say -3 to -6. I'd need to see a screenie of a -2 post nerf.
lol even in-game these aren't always accurate. Mainly when I capture a wilderness survival skill on my ranger, it'll say e.g. 'does 5...12 secs poison damage' then when I cap and equip it, it'll say 13 secs poison... and thats only 12 wilderness survival.
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Azn D
Lion's Arch Merchant
#11
lowest you can get it to is -2 per hit. Maybe if you find a +1 20% wand or something, if thats possible. With that you probably have to get them both at the same time. Then just maybe 02 per hit
darkMishkin
darkMishkin
Wilds Pathfinder
#12
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Originally Posted by Pharalon
Don't need a screenie. All skills are clamped at 0 and 15 (ie they're always whole numbers at those values). From there you can work out any of the breakpoints, keeping in mind things always round to the closest whole number.
We keep getting told that GW truncates instead of rounds, meaning 9.9996 = 9.
So in this case -2.99996 = -2?



msihkin
Pharalon
Pharalon
Beta Tester
#13
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Originally Posted by darkMishkin
We keep getting told that GW truncates instead of rounds, meaning 9.9996 = 9.
So in this case -2.99996 = -2?
msihkin
Damage gets truncated, skill variables get rounded. Damage doesn't actually get truncated, just the display of it does. In this case, each level of Protective Bond reduces the energy cost by 0.2, so at 17 the energy cost is 2.6 which will round to 3, while at 18 it will cost 2.4, which will round to 2.
darkMishkin
darkMishkin
Wilds Pathfinder
#14
Great explanation Pharalon, thanks

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Originally Posted by Pharalon
Damage doesn't actually get truncated, just the display of it does.
If I have 2hp, and someone attacks me for 1.6 damage, it will display as a -1 over my head? But will my health get truncated down from 0.4 to 0?
Will I die?


msih
Yichi
Yichi
Furnace Stoker
#15
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Originally Posted by Jezter14
tks for the input guys. And MistressYichi tks for your input but we're talkin protection prayers here, i'm not sure what thread you are in lol.
sorry i ment protection prayers. i was half asleep when i posted that.
Scorpion Boy
Scorpion Boy
Krytan Explorer
#16
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Originally Posted by darkMishkin
Great explanation Pharalon, thanks



If I have 2hp, and someone attacks me for 1.6 damage, it will display as a -1 over my head? But will my health get truncated down from 0.4 to 0?
Will I die?


msih

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! scary question...and a good one and....nvm
Shimus DarkRaven
Shimus DarkRaven
Desert Nomad
#17
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Originally Posted by darkMishkin
Great explanation Pharalon, thanks



If I have 2hp, and someone attacks me for 1.6 damage, it will display as a -1 over my head? But will my health get truncated down from 0.4 to 0?
Will I die?


msih
You're absolutely right. IT truncates downward if you have 2hp and hits for 1.6, you suffer -1 and are dropped to 1 life. Simple as that. As least, in my experience as a warrior, damage truncates down to the nearest whole number. No, you will not die, as you really only suffered 1 damage.

As for directly linking to this spell, I'm not quite sure. It might be as pharalon suggested; and then again I've never really been at 2 life for this scenario to happen, so I can't give accurate results.

--The Shim
DarkSider84
DarkSider84
Frost Gate Guardian
#18
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Originally Posted by darkMishkin
Great explanation Pharalon, thanks



If I have 2hp, and someone attacks me for 1.6 damage, it will display as a -1 over my head? But will my health get truncated down from 0.4 to 0?
Will I die?


msih
Yes you will die.
Tactical-Dillusions
Tactical-Dillusions
Desert Nomad
#19
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Originally Posted by Pevil Lihatuh
lol even in-game these aren't always accurate. Mainly when I capture a wilderness survival skill on my ranger, it'll say e.g. 'does 5...12 secs poison damage' then when I cap and equip it, it'll say 13 secs poison... and thats only 12 wilderness survival.
This might be because it doesn't take into account any runes/upgrades etc
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Jezter14
Frost Gate Guardian
#20
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Originally Posted by Azn D
lowest you can get it to is -2 per hit. Maybe if you find a +1 20% wand or something, if thats possible. With that you probably have to get them both at the same time. Then just maybe 02 per hit
Good point, i was thinkin the same thing. Now is there a wand or sword or something that can give protection +1? ALong with the protection prayers +1 protective icon of course.