Admitted newbie...
I love the game but have one significant frustration.
Why do there seem to be so many AFK players in cities?
It is a huge pain see hundreds of potential party mates, then send invitations to see them unanswered for 3-4-10 minutes? This is a bigger pain when you have 3 ppl ready to go and just need 1-2 more and can only invite one or two at a time?
Most ppl are just "standing around" in town. I'm learning to look for ppl that are at least moving a bit before inviting them , but it would seem that these AFKers are taking up server resources/bandwidth etc.,
Can our should they be logged off?
Or could the invitations at least automatically expire after 60 seconds?
seemingly AFK players
dabagboy
Talus
They could simply be anti-social and/or soloing in order to maximize their play time and XP.
Just watch the chat and you'll see who the most interesting and active players are
Just watch the chat and you'll see who the most interesting and active players are
Lasher Dragon
They may be trading furiously LOL. I know there are times when I am wheeling & dealing and I ignore other messages. It annoys some of my friends, but they are always broke and I have nearly 7k gold, so they don't complain too loudly (especially when the thing I am trying to buy is for them).
Manderlock
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Originally Posted by Lasher Dragon
They may be trading furiously LOL. I know there are times when I am wheeling & dealing and I ignore other messages. It annoys some of my friends, but they are always broke and I have nearly 7k gold, so they don't complain too loudly (especially when the thing I am trying to buy is for them).
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Haha, I was up to 11k, but the armor after ascention kindda cut into that.
Jackell
Man
In places like Beacons Perch and Ventari's refuge, it seems I can't even walk to storage without gettin bombared by join requests. And no, I don't get a chance to answer for a while, because I'm salvaging gear and selling stuff, and haven't even noticed that someone wants me in their group even though I never announced that I wanted to be in one. :P
I go afk in towns a lot, too. If I have to... releive a few essential functions, I'll wait till the end of the mission I'm in then use the restroom. I did that once and came back to a join request and pms of "WTF hit join. Why won't you join? I only need 1 more. Think your too good for me n00b?"
I think I lost my original point in this.
In places like Beacons Perch and Ventari's refuge, it seems I can't even walk to storage without gettin bombared by join requests. And no, I don't get a chance to answer for a while, because I'm salvaging gear and selling stuff, and haven't even noticed that someone wants me in their group even though I never announced that I wanted to be in one. :P
I go afk in towns a lot, too. If I have to... releive a few essential functions, I'll wait till the end of the mission I'm in then use the restroom. I did that once and came back to a join request and pms of "WTF hit join. Why won't you join? I only need 1 more. Think your too good for me n00b?"
I think I lost my original point in this.
Lasher Dragon
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Originally Posted by Manderlock
Haha, I was up to 11k, but the armor after ascention kindda cut into that.
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Auntie I
I usually do a /sit before I go AFK. I think it gets the point across that I'm not just standing around waiting for a group.
Cerixus
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Originally Posted by Auntie I
I usually do a /sit before I go AFK. I think it gets the point across that I'm not just standing around waiting for a group.
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Kyana Fay
Hi everyone.
I started playing GW recently and I come from FFXI (in fact, I still play it, I'm going to play both together). In FFXI its considered rude by most of the population to send random invites to people when they're not looking for a group. And, even if they are looking for a group, its usually polite to talk to them privately first and explain what you're intentions are, how many and what jobs the group members you already have together are, etc.
I haven't had the experience of getting bombarded with group invites in GW yet, as I'm just a lowly level 7 Elementalist and just got to the post-searing area not long ago. But, I can imagine I wouldn't take too kindly to being invited out of the blue unless I asked for a party to go and do something on the general chat channel.
Just this girl's opinion, of course.
I started playing GW recently and I come from FFXI (in fact, I still play it, I'm going to play both together). In FFXI its considered rude by most of the population to send random invites to people when they're not looking for a group. And, even if they are looking for a group, its usually polite to talk to them privately first and explain what you're intentions are, how many and what jobs the group members you already have together are, etc.
I haven't had the experience of getting bombarded with group invites in GW yet, as I'm just a lowly level 7 Elementalist and just got to the post-searing area not long ago. But, I can imagine I wouldn't take too kindly to being invited out of the blue unless I asked for a party to go and do something on the general chat channel.
Just this girl's opinion, of course.
Auntie I
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Originally Posted by Cerixus
Why not just type /afk?
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dabagboy
Kyana Fay,
I suppose I understand, based on yours and other responses I'm very likely in the wrong here. I'm too new to MMORPGs to know some of the more subtle points, poor nettiquiete I guess. Personally I don't find clicking "Decline" that difficult, I guess I thougth that was why it was there.
Mea Culpa.
I shall go forth and sin no more
If anyone is still reading this --
I still think it is a pain to find "seeking" party members. Even in chat you see the nick go by in chat and I can't seem to click on and find them in a city w/ 200 ppl most of whom are not rendered merely the R/Wa9 thing. And you can only "Whisper" to one at a time, can't easily invite from the chat window....etc...or am I missing something here too?
I suppose I understand, based on yours and other responses I'm very likely in the wrong here. I'm too new to MMORPGs to know some of the more subtle points, poor nettiquiete I guess. Personally I don't find clicking "Decline" that difficult, I guess I thougth that was why it was there.
Mea Culpa.
I shall go forth and sin no more
If anyone is still reading this --
I still think it is a pain to find "seeking" party members. Even in chat you see the nick go by in chat and I can't seem to click on and find them in a city w/ 200 ppl most of whom are not rendered merely the R/Wa9 thing. And you can only "Whisper" to one at a time, can't easily invite from the chat window....etc...or am I missing something here too?
Lasher Dragon
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Originally Posted by dabagboy
Kyana Fay,
I suppose I understand, based on yours and other responses I'm very likely in the wrong here. I'm too new to MMORPGs to know some of the more subtle points, poor nettiquiete I guess. Personally I don't find clicking "Decline" that difficult, I guess I thougth that was why it was there. Mea Culpa. I shall go forth and sin no more If anyone is still reading this -- I still think it is a pain to find "seeking" party members. Even in chat you see the nick go by in chat and I can't seem to click on and find them in a city w/ 200 ppl most of whom are not rendered merely the R/Wa9 thing. And you can only "Whisper" to one at a time, can't easily invite from the chat window....etc...or am I missing something here too? |
Jhaerel
First of all, don't invite people unless they express interest in joining your party! That will take care of your invite expiry question...
Second, an /uninvite command would be kind of nice (Is there somewhere we can make suggestions about useful changes?)
Third, a seperate chat window that just shows your private messages would be MUCH appreciated... SWG handled this nicely by allowing you to create as many chat windows as you want, and configure each one to show whichever messages you wanted... For example, you could make a chat window called "Messages", and configure it to show Private, Group, and Guild messages, and put it in a seperate place on the screen from the other windows, conveniently eliminating the combat/spatial/auction spam.
Just some ideas, I think a separate private message "Option" would be great to only show private messages.
Jhaerel
Second, an /uninvite command would be kind of nice (Is there somewhere we can make suggestions about useful changes?)
Third, a seperate chat window that just shows your private messages would be MUCH appreciated... SWG handled this nicely by allowing you to create as many chat windows as you want, and configure each one to show whichever messages you wanted... For example, you could make a chat window called "Messages", and configure it to show Private, Group, and Guild messages, and put it in a seperate place on the screen from the other windows, conveniently eliminating the combat/spatial/auction spam.
Just some ideas, I think a separate private message "Option" would be great to only show private messages.
Jhaerel
JjK
Get a good guild, and forget about other people.
Like Knights Templar
Like Knights Templar
Jackell
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Originally Posted by Kyana Fay
Hi everyone.
I started playing GW recently and I come from FFXI (in fact, I still play it, I'm going to play both together). In FFXI its considered rude by most of the population to send random invites to people when they're not looking for a group. And, even if they are looking for a group, its usually polite to talk to them privately first and explain what you're intentions are, how many and what jobs the group members you already have together are, etc. I haven't had the experience of getting bombarded with group invites in GW yet, as I'm just a lowly level 7 Elementalist and just got to the post-searing area not long ago. But, I can imagine I wouldn't take too kindly to being invited out of the blue unless I asked for a party to go and do something on the general chat channel. Just this girl's opinion, of course. |
No, it's not to hard to hit decline. When it's one invitation. But when I have to start scrolling through party invites, it's time to start getting pissed. But better yet, don't click on the first random person you see standing around and tell them to get in your party.
I've lost a few parties that I wanted to be in, because I had to scroll through random invites from people that just saw R/E over my head.
Finally, you mentioned if you missed something to find and invite someone quicker? You know that box, that their name appears in with the plus sign in it? Type their name in there. You'll auto invite.
Lasher Dragon
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Originally Posted by Jackell
Oh just you wait. One day, your gonna be in the desert. Talking to your guild about what your planning on doing next, or getting ready to drop things off at the storage, when, out of nowhere, BAM! Your invited to 15,000 groups.
No, it's not to hard to hit decline. When it's one invitation. But when I have to start scrolling through party invites, it's time to start getting pissed. But better yet, don't click on the first random person you see standing around and tell them to get in your party. I've lost a few parties that I wanted to be in, because I had to scroll through random invites from people that just saw R/E over my head. Finally, you mentioned if you missed something to find and invite someone quicker? You know that box, that their name appears in with the plus sign in it? Type their name in there. You'll auto invite. |
Kyana Fay
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Originally Posted by dabagboy
Kyana Fay,
I suppose I understand, based on yours and other responses I'm very likely in the wrong here. I'm too new to MMORPGs to know some of the more subtle points, poor nettiquiete I guess. Personally I don't find clicking "Decline" that difficult, I guess I thougth that was why it was there. If anyone is still reading this -- I still think it is a pain to find "seeking" party members. Even in chat you see the nick go by in chat and I can't seem to click on and find them in a city w/ 200 ppl most of whom are not rendered merely the R/Wa9 thing. And you can only "Whisper" to one at a time, can't easily invite from the chat window....etc...or am I missing something here too? |
Coming from FFXI, I do find the grouping system to be kind of "low-tech" in GW. In FFXI you have flags that you put up if you're looking for a group, and search comments of different colors for different things you want to group for (exp, quest/mission, pvp, etc.). On top of that, you can actually write in those comments specifically what you want or what you're looking for (a certain quest name, mission number, etc.). So, its very strange to me to have say or shouts on the general channel the only means of finding out that people want invited for something and what they want a group for.
I'm a rather shy person, so chatting and asking for help so openly is something I need to get used to.
Oh, and did I mention, I'm still looking for a good, helpful, mature guild? hehe
Lasher Dragon
I consider myself a nice guy, but I leave people hanging all the time. If people are just going to randomly invite me into their party without me even asking to join one oh well. Most of the time I am back in Ascalon or some other early area trying to sell off some good loot for cheap. I usually come back with a load of goodies, try to sell them cheap for an hour or so, and whatever I have left I either give away, salvage, or sell to the merchant.
Jackell
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Originally Posted by Kyana Fay
Oh, and did I mention, I'm still looking for a good, helpful, mature guild? hehe
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Or Lacerta Priscus on the Guild aud post. Last we saw we were on page 3 but we bump ourselves up to the top every Saturday.
Sidra Meum
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Originally Posted by dabagboy
Admitted newbie...
I love the game but have one significant frustration. Why do there seem to be so many AFK players in cities? It is a huge pain see hundreds of potential party mates, then send invitations to see them unanswered for 3-4-10 minutes? This is a bigger pain when you have 3 ppl ready to go and just need 1-2 more and can only invite one or two at a time? Most ppl are just "standing around" in town. I'm learning to look for ppl that are at least moving a bit before inviting them , but it would seem that these AFKers are taking up server resources/bandwidth etc., Can our should they be logged off? Or could the invitations at least automatically expire after 60 seconds? |
I cant say I am very social in game... I'll get tons of invites, if I am not in a group and do not wish to - I decline and say thanks anyway. Sometimes I am already in a party (PreSearing) and I will still get an invite. I just ignore it. If I want to party when someone offers.. then usually I join in.
I cant spend twenty minutes at a town after a large mission (PostSearing) selling, salvaging, sticking sutff in storage.. I have so many windows open that I just dont see invited sometimes or I am just too busy. It happens.
But! I will admit.. I am also the person that will be playing and go... "Eap! This took longer then I thought I need to do the dishes" and run off for ten minutes to shove them into the washer.
EnDinG
Joy... Guild spammers. Theres a place for that sort of thing.
Like the other person who said the /sit, likewise here, might as well make it obvious that I'm not around.
Like the other person who said the /sit, likewise here, might as well make it obvious that I'm not around.
Soul Monarch
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Originally Posted by Kyana Fay
Oh, I wouldn't leave you hanging, I'd definately hit "Decline" if I wasn't in the mood or just didn't want to group at the moment.
Coming from FFXI, I do find the grouping system to be kind of "low-tech" in GW. In FFXI you have flags that you put up if you're looking for a group, and search comments of different colors for different things you want to group for (exp, quest/mission, pvp, etc.). On top of that, you can actually write in those comments specifically what you want or what you're looking for (a certain quest name, mission number, etc.). So, its very strange to me to have say or shouts on the general channel the only means of finding out that people want invited for something and what they want a group for. I'm a rather shy person, so chatting and asking for help so openly is something I need to get used to. Oh, and did I mention, I'm still looking for a good, helpful, mature guild? hehe |
I played FFXI for a good time (long to work up a 60+ Dragoon) and if you're very used to that system, then GW is a shock. Grouping, the play style, the economy, the guilds... most things are a total 180 from the set up in FFXI.
The main thing is... the game is free. I agree with you, random party invites are rude. I prefer people to send me a tell first. But many times, you're lucky to find people capable for actually typing to each other, much less playing the game properly.
But good luck in game. Just be sure to treat it like it's own game, not like a regular MMO.
