You call that an Earthquake?

Rieselle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Melbourne, Australia

E/Rt

Wow, in the recent patch they gave firestorm a 2s cast, which stops it from doing its windup animation where you hold your hands up and a beam of fire shoots in the air. Which was possibly the only somewhat cool spell animation in the whole game. Now it just sprouts out of your head or something.

Head_Damage

Head_Damage

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

England

WH

W/Mo

you should be able to kick an enemy too if it dies thatd be a laugh also when your blind if only you could swing around like an idiot! suppose itd be a rubbish concept but highly amusing

ThY[Ninj]

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

NC

Burning Sun Ninjas

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
Agreed, I know I'm somewhat confused as to why Final Thrust is a slash...

Big holes in the ground after meteors... neat...
Agreed. Trust = Slash? Hmmmm....

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

Didn't read anything but 80% of the first post, but I thought of this in the way of self-targeting spells. Dervish actually look like Avatars of the Gods, but when my assassin uses Shadow Form, she looks normal. Same for Obsidian Flesh, Mist Form, etc.

The Hand Of Death

The Hand Of Death

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cavalon

The Last Pirates (SaVY)

N/

Many of the graphics for spells are lacking. I have noticed this primarily in the hexing skills.

Conjure Phantasm has 4 glowing pink balls spin around the target. Now I don't know about anyone else but I don't think that I would personally get scared if I was hallucinating about little floating pink balls. Something like a small verson of the face can spin around the target like specters.

A good example of a good graphiced hex spell is Soothing Images, where purple butterflies and flowers float out from the character. You can actually see the spells effect.

Other spells that should have better graphics are spells like Deep Freeze. It is suppose to be a huge AoE affecting spell and you see nothing except for an expanding ring around you. It should at least have a graphic for the area around it.

Other complaints around graphics are the similarities between some:

Fireball, flare, pheonix, and kindle arrows look very very very similiar besides a few little tweaks.

Lightning orb and lightning javelin.

Bone horror, bone minion, vampiric minion.

I want to see new graphics for skills, it is lacking.

DeathandtheHealing

DeathandtheHealing

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2006

In a PVE GUILD YAY! :P

Me/Mo

who sits there and watches the animations?.........

you pvers are funny

they dont do this so everyone can play, hell if you all want to go out and buy like the best graphics cards just so u can see meteor holes in the ground lol... go ahead.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

As with all things, they could easily put in a AWESOME GRAPHICS: ON/OFF button.

DeathandtheHealing

DeathandtheHealing

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2006

In a PVE GUILD YAY! :P

Me/Mo

lovely when life comes with an easy button huh?

still who cares.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

Obviously, people who posted here. Duh.

DeathandtheHealing

DeathandtheHealing

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2006

In a PVE GUILD YAY! :P

Me/Mo

great 50 pvers, now get them to make all the needed stuff and make all the crap...

/not signed

worthless

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

-.-

Those who speak up represent a certain number of those who didn't. I'm sure atleast 10% of the world's GW players have had this thought cross their mind.

The Hand Of Death

The Hand Of Death

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cavalon

The Last Pirates (SaVY)

N/

You make assumptions that only PvEr's want this. I do GvG a lot and have been in pretty good GvG guilds, don't assume that it is just people who play GvG.

Now if it doesn't benefit or hurt you in any way then why disagree.

DeathandtheHealing

DeathandtheHealing

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2006

In a PVE GUILD YAY! :P

Me/Mo

well if your going to pick through every little thing you guys dont like about skills and ask them to be changed, this is pretty stupid.....

conjure phantasm has 4 lil pink balls...... well i suppose you want them to make some impressive ghost? yeah thats great.. the point is half the time during the game your going to miss half of the stuff that is going on.


oh ummm geee sprint has little dust stuff that comes off my character

I WANT CARTOON AFTERBURNERS PUT IN THE GAME!

The Hand Of Death

The Hand Of Death

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cavalon

The Last Pirates (SaVY)

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathandtheHealing
well if your going to pick through every little thing you guys dont like about skills and ask them to be changed, this is pretty stupid.....

conjure phantasm has 4 lil pink balls...... well i suppose you want them to make some impressive ghost? yeah thats great.. the point is half the time during the game your going to miss half of the stuff that is going on.


oh ummm geee sprint has little dust stuff that comes off my character

I WANT CARTOON AFTERBURNERS PUT IN THE GAME!
Ok so for everyones convience and so no one complains have Anet take out all the graphics in the game so all the spells are invicible. That way PvEr's won't have any other skills to compare to to complain about not having enough graphics on one and people like you won't complain about the PvEr's who are complaining.

DeathandtheHealing

DeathandtheHealing

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2006

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Me/Mo

who ever said about taking stuff out? your just trying to change the subject now.

this is about adding impressive mind blowing graphics to a bunch of skills everyone has a lil problem with.

i doubt they'll want to deal with everyone crying about stuff.

its not practical.
get everyone to sign this then and still see if they'll do it, hell start taking donations

The Hand Of Death

The Hand Of Death

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cavalon

The Last Pirates (SaVY)

N/

I am not saying to add "amazing" graphics, just graphics where some are lacking.

Deep Freeze has no graphic around the AoE area.

A lot of hexes have little graphics around the foe, which you can easily miss. Sometimes it is practical to remove specific hexes when hex removal is slow compared to the take on of hexes.

And it isn't if they will do it or not it is a suggestion and you may be surprised because some suggestions are actually used. One of my old ones may have been used in making Factions AB battles.

DeathandtheHealing

DeathandtheHealing

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2006

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Me/Mo

you say u play gvg?

while u are playing are u really watching for deep freeze graphics? or can u tell oh wow that warrior is walking a lot slower!

and for hexes, if they have a hex that is ending very fast, then you should say over your mic.
or ctrl+click on it

why make it harder for the game delevopers just cause a certain skill isnt cool looking, you know the aoe is there so move out of it!
NF is coming out in what one month? there going to have a bunch of stuff to do.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

This is a SUGGESTION FORUM and not a DISAGREE WITH WHATEVER DOESN'T AFFECT YOU ANYWAY FORUM. The point of this is to SUGGEST things.

Also, a slowed person could be under any amount of different things, so these graphics would actually help.

Think of how they changed the animations on wands so you can tell the difference between illusion and domination. This isn't much different in principle.

We aren't demanding this NOW. The second Nightfall is released, besides fixing bugs and nerfing, they really have nothing to do but work on the next chapter. If they find this important or interesting, they will do it whether you yell about how useless it is or not.

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Well, I've always thought the skill effects in GW were greatly subdued as they are, basically to keep things cleaner during PvP play, so numbers and the actual position of characters would be more visible

With that said, I do find them extremely lacking, visually speaking. It'd be great to be able to toggle "amazing effects" (as someone said above) on and off, so that PvPers could go on with their thing, and we could still enjoy seeing an "eruption" that really looks like an "eruption", and not a wussy little circle of lights; I'm thinking something ala Diablo 2: ground splits open, fire and brimstone in the air, lava flows... something visually appealing. For melee characters, enemies should react when hit, maybe shed a little blood (no need to make it a gorefest, tho), or even be thrown backwards a little if knocked down. As of now, I really like the game, but I can't help but feel my character's actions lack a little "oomph", you know.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathandtheHealing
why make it harder for the game delevopers just cause a certain skill isnt cool looking, you know the aoe is there so move out of it!
NF is coming out in what one month? there going to have a bunch of stuff to do.
Dude, no one is asking them to make everything look cool. THE ORIGINAL thought of the suggestion is to IMPROVE visual effects to match what the skill/spell actually is/does. Which has been a long time coming.

Maelstrom for one is a lot like Firestorm (AoE) and yet, I can see the fire falling but I can hardly see a small light blue spark on the ground that extends invisibly father from the spark. AND the fact that Chaos Storm doesn't look remotely like a storm is visually incorrect.

I can't believe PvPers are complaining about visual representation of skills/spells. "OMG they can totally see that now, its useless". Ridiculous.

Some things that people are requesting is a bit much but is correct with the spells/Skills visual interpretation. Maybe a singed ground where Meteor Storm fell would be good enough. And give the meteors an actual aura like it was actually falling from the atmosphere or simply changing the color of the smoke to a darker orange would be an improvement.

A LOT of spells can use a simple visual tweak, while others need an overhaul. And it all doesn't have to be done immediately like you claim it has to be.

KESKI

KESKI

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/

I complained about this since prophcies= =;
Finaly some supporters

Yes final thrust is a shame, 80% we do a slash other then thrust.
Axe atk is a shame, poiking foes with the flat end suppose to explain the low min atk??
MS wasnt a shame back then. Now, we see shotting stars then after 3 sec foes take their first dmg and knock down?? Might as well tell them start running ahead of time. I like to ask for 3 huge Meteor(about 10x the size of the normal one) drop from the sky and "hit at the right time".(and have a purple hair kid standing on them laughing wahahahahaha<~disgaea)

I am just asking them to change this out of place stuff, I dont even care if its fancy or not

Amity and Truth

Amity and Truth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/N

Best don't answer DeathandtheHealing. It's the typical PVP vs PVE Trolling. Don't feed it anymore, it craves the attention it gets.

/signed
But make it a slider in the options menu.

Dalimoor_Kalkire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

[DoA] - The Darknights of Ascalon

R/

/signed!!

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Ressurect threads much?

Just as a general point;
Most of the things sugested (mostly on the first page), would take up far too much graphical data. The simple fact is, the simpler the skill looks, the less lag is can possibly produce.

Rugal

Rugal

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Wallachia

Defenders of Existence

N/W

I slap myself in the face whenever I use Palm Strike with my assassin, and see him put his hand on the ground...

deadman_uk

deadman_uk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

United Kingdom

KOD

Mo/E

/signed but make a slider

Mister O

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

I suppose your character lost his head after he gets [skill]Decapitate[/skill]

mazey vorstagg

mazey vorstagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Nodnol

Meeting of Lost Minds

E/Mo

I've posted it before and it's needed.

I mean C'mon eruption is just brown dust floating above the ground.
Churning earth looks more impressive btu even that could be cooler.

I need fissures and some serious earth power when I'm nuking.

Also, armour or earth and frost armour should have some graphic to show it. Even if Armour of Earth is the rotating rocks (from the casting anim) going around you all the time.

lordpwn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
Most of the things sugested (mostly on the first page), would take up far too much graphical data. The simple fact is, the simpler the skill looks, the less lag is can possibly produce.
The effects are already done entirely in the game client's end, improving them would not increase network lag or game server load (except the update servers' of course) at all.

As for the slowdown improved effects could cause with slow video cards, well, that's what the options dialog is for.