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Cresst

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

None

W/Mo

23 Nov 2005 at 12:59 - 1

I just had an idea i have noticed that in game there are two handed hammers and stuff but i havnet seen any two handed swords, i personally feel that a warriors first chioce in Damage dealing weapons would have to be the Two handed sword i would like to see what people whould think on this matter and if it is a good idea or not.

I think it is a good idea because i have noticed a lot of people who seem to use a sword without a sheild (like me) and they tend to go for the longer sword such as the fellblade or the Long sword to make themselfs look or feel like they are weilding a two handed sword.

Please please please answer to this it was just an idea but i hope that most of you will agree with me that people like two handed swords as well as single handed sword.

Badenstein

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ohio

23 Nov 2005 at 13:07 - 2

2 Handed Swords and 2 Handed Axes.

Good Idea.

Cresst

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

None

W/Mo

23 Nov 2005 at 13:21 - 3

ah yes Two handed axes to i didnt think of that nice one

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

23 Nov 2005 at 13:42 - 4

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Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

23 Nov 2005 at 13:57 - 5

OK, would this be cosmetic only (Two handed swords combining the attributes of both weapon and shield), or would they give extra damage at the cost of less armor?

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

23 Nov 2005 at 14:01 - 6

Not that I am against the idea per se, but any such changes (and difference in damage that would be expected) would require new skills and a massive change in the balance of the game.

[Always thought it looked a little strange for my little warrior gal to be wielding a one handed axe that looks like it should take two hands just to hold]

Claymore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

A/W

23 Nov 2005 at 14:45 - 7

For a 2 handed sword it would have to be extra damage at the cost of less armor, but, mods could be added for extra armor, and thens theres stances anyways so no real major loss.

The Damage would have to be same range as hammer, maybe with some minor knockdown ability cause lets face it a 6 foot long piece of steel being swung with 2 hands at somebody's chest would knock them down!

Cresst

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

None

W/Mo

23 Nov 2005 at 15:16 - 8

yea i can see what you mean claymore any one who has been hit by a two handed sword would feel the ground slightly after

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

23 Nov 2005 at 15:17 - 9

This would be better implemented in a new class, barbarian or something, rather than trying to add it to warriors. I'd love 2H Swords though!

Cresst

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

None

W/Mo

23 Nov 2005 at 15:21 - 10

I was thinking that also the game seems to revole around the magical dragons that never show up in the game and there fore there should be a class that worships the dragon so i was thinking like Dragon Knight or sothing along thoses lines that could use the 2hander

it might be Ott but i like dragons so lol

Claymore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

A/W

23 Nov 2005 at 17:05 - 11

Ok, I have 2 thoughts here, 1) We really can't say the new classes that are coming for sure, so asking for a new class to achieve a new weapon seems kinda overkill. The Devs have a model for the chars hold a 2 handed weapon, aka hammer, it should be difficult designing skins for new 2 handed swords. As I am not a porgrammer I can't say for sure but I would think and new weapon is easier than a new class.

2) Kinda off topic but, I always though of once reaching the desert instead of changing profession for secondary, you actually had the choice of specializing in a subclass of your primary, or keep you secondary as is.
Eg. Warrior/beserker

Fred Kiwi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

[cola]

23 Nov 2005 at 17:10 - 12

prestige class then?

a bit complicated seing as you already have a secondary

DarkSider84

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Connecticut, USA

JAPS

E/Me

23 Nov 2005 at 17:16 - 13

Great idea, in turn for being 2 handed & not being able to carry a shield or focus item, the item should have a higher damage expectancy along with some kind of higher mods or + armor or something to that effect to make it worthwhile to use.

Badenstein

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ohio

23 Nov 2005 at 17:19 - 14

I disagree on needing skill balancing and new skills etc. 2H weapons generally are slower than 1H weapons. You do give up defence, but there is the added damage.

Claymore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

A/W

23 Nov 2005 at 17:21 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Kiwi

prestige class then?

a bit complicated seing as you already have a secondary

Thats why when your reach the desert you chose to keep your secondary or switch to your specialized class instead of swtiching to a new secondary.
You still end up with 2 professions per say, with my idea the second is a specialized class based on your primary.

Hot Dead

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

23 Nov 2005 at 17:25 - 16

/signed

I do believe that sword/axe warriors should have a bit more dmg output, and the skills shouldnt change.
Maybe just the casting time (if not an adrenal skill)

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

23 Nov 2005 at 18:33 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claymore

Thats why when your reach the desert you chose to keep your secondary or switch to your specialized class instead of swtiching to a new secondary.
You still end up with 2 professions per say, with my idea the second is a specialized class based on your primary.

Off topic, but I always thought that it would be cool if you decided to permently set your Primary/Secondary after you Ascend. you would get some unique skills for that particular combo (like a W/N Skill).

Might be unbalanced, though.

Claymore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

A/W

23 Nov 2005 at 19:28 - 18

Hehe yeah sorry about that guys, Cresst got me thinking after his post about dragons.

Yeah Mordakai, I though of the unbalanced too, but like everything else electing to specialize in a class means losing the flexibility of a second class. Although specializing in a warrior subclass gains you access to a few unique skills, its not an uber class. As we all know having your entire skill bar devoted to skills of you one class is almost suicide, this is just a though I had, haven't reasoned out pros and cons yet.

NatalieD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

24 Nov 2005 at 01:54 - 19

Much as it would be nice to see them, it's really not a good idea. Warriors in PVP only bother with shields because they have an empty hand anyway. If 2H swords/axes were added, nobody would want to give up damage for more armor. Shields and 1H swords/axes would become a mark of inexperienced players, almost as bad as Mending.

(One need only look at World of Warcraft for an example of a similar game where this has already happened, incidentally.)

darkdragon99

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

decatur indiana

hell's mercenaries

W/E

24 Nov 2005 at 02:25 - 20

stop bashing mending it keeps you alive long enough to get your job done. it wasn't made for anything more and if your a w/mo your made to stay alive not heal others.

i so want a 2 handed sword i always thought the axes should have been 2 handed in the first place

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

24 Nov 2005 at 03:33 - 21

I think Warriors should stay as is.

Two handed weapons could go to new, less armored Prof, as suggested on this thread:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=83766

Cresst

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

None

W/Mo

24 Nov 2005 at 08:44 - 22

yes i think it would be better going to a new class but what it would be is another thing altogether i would like to see 2 handers being able to use by all of the different classes (not that necros and eles and mesmers will use them) and it would be good to see if they can create a good weapon for a new class also

Cresst

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

None

W/Mo

24 Nov 2005 at 11:18 - 23

allso im not sure if im the only that has noticed but have any of you noticed that the long swords handles can actually use both hands, the length is long enogh for it if you look closly. its the same with the goddamn fellblade and any other kind of long blade

so why did they just make a single and not a double tell me that

Claymore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

A/W

24 Nov 2005 at 17:11 - 24

Because traditionally swords, even 1 handed swords, had longer hilts to help counterbalance the weight of the blade. In the case of the Bastard sword, could have beena 2 handed sword or 1 depending on the warrior using it.

max gladius

Yep, really is me...

Join Date: Aug 2005

My House

L33t

24 Nov 2005 at 17:14 - 25

I think the best idea would be double yielding weapons, 2 axes or such would look and perform much better then having a two handed weapon...

Claymore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

A/W

24 Nov 2005 at 17:20 - 26

Dual weilding has been approached in these forums before, while I would enjoy it, don't think its as practical to initiate into the game. I hope Im wrong as I would love to see it, but I see 2 handed weapons before dual weilding.

Flaxx

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

Northern Ireland

Grey Mortals

W/Mo

26 Nov 2005 at 22:54 - 27

I really want some kind of two-handed katana so my ninja ( R/W ) actually looks like one. :P

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crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

26 Nov 2005 at 23:08 - 28

If only.

Don't see it happening unless they add a new skill tree fro 2H Swords or toss em in with the hammers.

Don't get me wrong. I'd love it, as well as 2H Axes. But I get the feeling that the "OMG DU3L BL4D3 N1NJ4Z!"(no offence Flaxx) crowd will get what they want. Despite this game having an evidently medieval theme.

Don Vito Corleone

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Guildless

R/

26 Nov 2005 at 23:59 - 29

/signed

we need 2 handed weapons for warriors

Cresst

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

None

W/Mo

28 Nov 2005 at 10:39 - 30

i was looking at then design a weapon contest and it said that NEW weapon TYPES were coming BUT it is best if you just design the following

ONE handed sword
Sheild
ect ect

So i think when they say ONE handed sword that i think they are maiing two handed so it look kinda promising any one think the same??

Khadgar of Dalaran

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Ohio, USA

Dark Moon Clan

R/Me

28 Nov 2005 at 10:54 - 31

how about this two handed swords deal 1.5x as much damage so it would deal 22.5-33 (hope i did the math right :P) and maybe have a +5 base armor (to act almost like a shield)...
-plus-
DUEL WIELDING!
double the attack speed but cut the dmg by ~25% (it'd be like Flurry only always active)
and for those who will gripe about upgrades it's simple two upgrades only: if one sword had a fort upgrade and an adreline upgrade the other can ONLY have a fort and adreline EQUAL to that of a max version (ie if i have a 2% furious hilt and a 10% furious hilt i only get 10% but if i have a 5%furious and a 6%furious hilt i get 10%; same with fort cap it at +30hp) also have the +5 armor base (meaning it's not an upgrade) added to the offhand weapon...