Wireless Internet Play

A.N.T.

A.N.T.

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

North Carolina

A.N.T.

Ok i meet all of the requirements easily. I have all the stuff set to low quality, even though it tells me to set them to high. I use a LinkSys wireless-g 2.4Ghz router, connected to a home network. The host computer is on the other side of the wall =\

I know it says in support to avoid using wireless internet, but does anyone here play with wireless and get no lag?

Billiard

Billiard

Doctor of Philosophy

Join Date: May 2005

Pacific Northwest

Team Love [kiSu] www.teamlove.us

When I play wireless on my laptop I seem to get stop and go lag - not sure what causes it, but it definitely is not smooth like on a cat 5 connection. This happens both on my home wireless as well as on more industrial strength wireless.

Narada

Narada

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

United States

Clan Foxrunner

R/P

You're saying that you have the modem hooked up to the host computer which is connected to a router that you connect to? If so, why not try hooking the modem up to the router instead of the computer and then get your connection straight from the router itself? That's what I do and it works fine.

DarkSider84

DarkSider84

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Connecticut, USA

JAPS

E/Me

Do you have all needed ports open on the router? Do you have the firewall set up correctly? And all proper drivers? that could be a cause of your lag one of the above.

Xue Yi Liang

Xue Yi Liang

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Northern CA

Outlaws of the Water Margin

Mo/Me

No lag here, buddy.

Akilles

Akilles

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Brothers of the Jade

nope, no lag, AND I even had a time (not by choice) where my system was on the otherside of a massive home with tons of wireless devices and interferance which had my connection at "low" and still ran GW with little lag. I have 54mbps now and it flies.

I think they say that since wireless is less secure (or can be) as other can possibly share your network. has nothing to do with bandwidth. bandwidth is bandwidth. if you have a 2.4 ghz phone in your house, I would consider changing that then.

Narada

Narada

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

United States

Clan Foxrunner

R/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akilles
I think they say that since wireless is less secure (or can be) as other can possibly share your network. has nothing to do with bandwidth. bandwidth is bandwidth. if you have a 2.4 ghz phone in your house, I would consider changing that then.
The 2.4 GHz phone gave me problems too, but not lag problems. What happened with me was that every time someone turned on the phone or someone called and a phone rang, my router would reset itself. I had to replace nearly all the phones in our house with the newer models... 5.8 GHz I believe?

VGJustice

VGJustice

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tyria, cappin' ur bosses

Boston Guild [BG]

R/W

I've got wireless, and I get spotty lag. But, I think that has more to do with a really poor ISP than my wireless.

for the record, I've had a 20kbps DSL connection. When my provider works, it's great, though.

Justin_GW

Justin_GW

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

I've got a wireless connection and i don't have any lag when playing guid wars

Lerxst_of_Syrinx

Lerxst_of_Syrinx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/R

I'm using a wireless 802.11g (54mbps) connection and have zero lag issues. Come to think of it, I never had problems on a 802.11b (11mbs) connection, either.

The Son Of Morgoth

The Son Of Morgoth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Maryland

The Servants Of Morgoth

N/

you can play wireless and not lag but u will need a GOOD laptop.......no 256 ram and u want a good graphics card...like a gaming laptop.

Tmm Ryan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Plkn

my other pc is wirelessly connected, and iv only every got lag once, but i think that was down to the gfx rather than the connection cz i got an error.

But then again iv got a belkin 125mbps router + 125 wireless card.

Billiard

Billiard

Doctor of Philosophy

Join Date: May 2005

Pacific Northwest

Team Love [kiSu] www.teamlove.us

My laptop is actually pretty decent and does great with a hardwire connection - not sure why it acts up with wireless. Maybe it has to do with the security I got installed? (WEP)

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

The older 802.11b and 2.4ghz will overlap on the same frequencies.
Make sure you are using 802.11g hardware.

Xue Yi Liang

Xue Yi Liang

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Northern CA

Outlaws of the Water Margin

Mo/Me

when I had an 802.11b I had spotty connections due to my 2.4Ghz cordless phones. When a call would come in my connection would drop half the time - the rest of the time it was just unreliable. A new 802.11g fixed that right away...

A.N.T.

A.N.T.

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

North Carolina

A.N.T.

Well, sorry guys, forgot about this thread.

So, from what i read, i have abnormal bull crap. I AM running on a 2.4 ghz 802.11G, my phone is only a 900 mhz. I have a wireless box on my cpu in my room, in the room next to me is the big box that i network too. We have WEP security too if thats a problem.

This isnt just little spotty lags every minute or so. This is clicking 10 yards ahead and taking 2 minutes to get there

Lerxst_of_Syrinx

Lerxst_of_Syrinx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by A.N.T.
Well, sorry guys, forgot about this thread.

So, from what i read, i have abnormal bull crap. I AM running on a 2.4 ghz 802.11G, my phone is only a 900 mhz. I have a wireless box on my cpu in my room, in the room next to me is the big box that i network too. We have WEP security too if thats a problem.

This isnt just little spotty lags every minute or so. This is clicking 10 yards ahead and taking 2 minutes to get there
If you want to 100% find out if it's really your wireless connection do this:
(Let it run for 15 or so minutes before you stop.)

Open a command prompt:
Start > Run > type in "cmd"
Find out your gateway IP address by:
ipconfig /all
Write down your Gateway IP address (probably 192.168.0.1 or something like that)
From the DOS box type: ping -t <your gateway's IP address> > c:\pingtest.txt
It will look like: ping -t 192.168.0.1 > c:\pingtest.txt
Let that run for 15 or so minutes.
Press CTRL-C to stop test.

Open My computer. Find the pingtest.txt file on your C Drive and open it.
Inside you'll see a bunch of lines that look like:
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=64

Look for lines where time is high.
Look for Request time out.

Also, the last line should give overall statistics. You are looking for 0% loss.

If any of the above problems show, you have a wireless network problem.

Write back let us know how it went.

A.N.T.

A.N.T.

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

North Carolina

A.N.T.

Code:
Packets: Sent = 891, Received = 891, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

    Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 42ms, Average = 4ms
Well i got the 0% loss Could WEP be a problem at all?

Lerxst_of_Syrinx

Lerxst_of_Syrinx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by A.N.T.
Code:
Packets: Sent = 891, Received = 891, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

    Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 42ms, Average = 4ms
Well i got the 0% loss Could WEP be a problem at all?
It's possible, but unlikely. You can turn off WEP and see see how it goes.

If you are running DSL, you can try the same test I recommended with the Default Gateway IP address of your router (this will test from your house back to your computer). I would do this test before doing the next test.

Also, you can try it with one of your DSN servers listed in the ipconfig. If your DSN server address is the same as your gateway you'll have to log into your router and use its address). If the problem lies with pinging a DSN server (which is operated by your ISP), you'll have to get on the phone with their tech support.

A.N.T.

A.N.T.

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

North Carolina

A.N.T.

Ok, i did the test with my DNS server, 0% loss...

So what else could be a result of this lag?

Also, the below link is to my DxDiag log file, if theres any useful information you can take from that

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UYGG7FPP

Kinroan

Kinroan

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Newport, NC USA

ANT

N/Me

hmmm...dl doesn't work 4 me....might want to use a different host...

File Factory works pretty good...

A.N.T.

A.N.T.

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

North Carolina

A.N.T.

here it is http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php...d8695cb5991fc1

Feloriene Bluewolf

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

R/E

Sounds strange. I use the Linksys on my DSL connection (4meg), but with MAC Filtering rather than WEP. I found that using wep to secure the network tended to give me regular periods of 'limited or no connectivity' where my IP would change to a useless 169.254.x.x address. Since switching to MAC filtering, I haven't looked back .

oscarmk

oscarmk

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

I always play wireless at my home, and i dont have any problems.

xsilver

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Pantheon[Gods]

Me/E

i have a wireless connection and i'll get lag once in a while, but its usually not that bad

Lerxst_of_Syrinx

Lerxst_of_Syrinx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/R

A.N.T.,

You are using old video drivers. Update them and see what happens.

Quote:
---------------
Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce FX 5200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.7803 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 8/25/2005 10:18:00, 3909632 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: No

A.N.T.

A.N.T.

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

North Carolina

A.N.T.

Ok, basically it fixed it. When i run in most areas it does alright, but it still lags. This time i noticed that the red light on the computer goes crazy when i lag. I remember reading somewhere about that, if the light blinks when you lag you have a setting you need to change. You know what it is?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by A.N.T.

I know it says in support to avoid using wireless internet, but does anyone here play with wireless and get no lag?
ATTENTION

that is wireless INTERNET (SATELITE) NOT WIRELESS ROUTER.

zaxxon1982

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wireless g is orders of magnitude faster than most broadband internet connections, so in all likelihood any lag problems in GW are due to some component of the system other than the wireless network.

I play exclusively on my wireless network and never lag.

smurf

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

hmm i am having wireless issues as well. and my friend too. we seem to just randomly warp all over the place. it is really messed up

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

I use wireless connection on my laptop all the time. I occassionaly lag a little, but mostly have no problems.

Javias

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Natural Born Slayers

R/Me

To throw in my two cents. I have a wireless network too, and had massive reoccuring lag and drops from the net after moving into my new house. Every comp (five -two towers, two laptops and a Mac Powerbook) is connected wirelessly and WEP encrypted. All had problems except the Mac. (Why the Mac worked well, I dont know) The distance to the router was less and even more open. Couldnt find the problem anywhere. Came to be that the old wireless was on its last legs and was fading in and out. It was sort of like breathing with the range and power Replaced with a new router ($35 after rebate) and I'm back to streaming music as well as playing both copies of GW with the wife at the same time.


Moral of the story: "Once you've eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."



Javias



Oh, and BTW --5.8ghz over 2.4 anyday.

Bubba Lips

Bubba Lips

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

North Carolina

The Grave Diggers [gds]

Mo/W

i play GW with wireless.

i play Counter strike with wirless as well.

Guild wars i lag sometimes, counter strike i never lag.

This can only mean i need more RAM.

3 Ghz processor with only 256 RAM is insufficient when trying to load 300 + people in a town as opposed to 16 players in CS.

A.N.T.

A.N.T.

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

North Carolina

A.N.T.

512 ram settings all down =\

The ram or memory or whatever is at 133 mhz, but im gettin that upgraded soon.

Odinsblade

Odinsblade

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/R

Thanks to this thread it confirmed my thoughts about my wireless phone screwing my connection. Every time my 2.4 ghz phone rings, I get disconnected. This is on a wired connection. I'm askin for a new phone for Christmas . I hope it all works out for those who have these problems. There's nothing more frustrating than being DC'd when I'm in a group or SF farming bosses with my son and the puters DC'd because the phone rings.

A.N.T.

A.N.T.

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

North Carolina

A.N.T.

Mine screws up whether or not the phone is on

smippitysmoo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

Hi,

I helped a friend with a problem like this with a Linksys router. You should probably update the firmware for the router if you are having issues. It is available on the linksys website.

Also do any of your neighbors have a wireless network? You can check for access points and what channels they are on using a tool like netstumbler. It is best if you are several channels away from them because the side lobes of your signal will overlap into other channels causing interference in adjacent channels.

Do you have any other lag of connectivity issues other than Guild Wars? Have you tried reverting to an open network temporarily to see if it is a WEP issue? We moved my friend to an open network and his connectivity problems went away on his Windows XP computer. We then tried WPA instead of WEP and he had no problems with Windows XP and his Linksys router. So you may also consider that. So worst case scenario make sure that you start with a simple open network and confrm functionality then add more to it when you are sure it is working. It makes it easier to try to isolate the exact problem.

Also I had a 802.11 wireless ISP for years and it worked good. Only had problems when they decided to route too many users, and too much traffic, through 802.11 towers instead of getting local leased lines, or different frequency higher throughput radio technologies. For 3 years it would run fine with counter strike and diablo 2 with no lag problems.

Hope this helps you some.

Kanna Banrai

Kanna Banrai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Inman, South Carolina (-5 GMT)

Gameamp Guides

Mo/

I'm on a wireless connection, and I run the came just fine, when my connection wants to work that is. When I'm getting a decent connection, the game runes perfect for me. When I lag, I know my connection is about to drop, and that is about 90% of the case. The other 10% is Err7....