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actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

26 Nov 2005 at 22:26 - 1

Anyhow.. I am turning this thread into my own Concept Class Index.
Take it as you will...

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...87#post2652487 - New Racial Core (?)

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Classic Concept Class List
http://www.guild-hall.net/forum/show...=concept+class

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CCC
(Class Concept Challenge)
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Strategist
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=456058
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10172812

http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...light=dragoner
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10105369 - Dragonmancer

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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=133754 Ken Dei 's Master Concept Class List

other class of intersest

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3013330 - Feral: (arcanemacabre)
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3012268 - Gunslinger: (Rikimaru)
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3008728 - Infernal Knight: (Beta1113)
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=136423 - Pit Fighter: (LaserLight)
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=134753 - Plague Master: (Tuoba Hturt Eht)
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=134432 - Ceramicist: (lyra_song)
http://www.guild-hall.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39504 - Time Walker: apolloknight
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3047569 - Engineer: (Lordhelmos )
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=124294 - Berserker: (trebes )
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3073135 - Artificer: (Verlas Ho'Esta)
http://forums.gwonline.net/showthread.php?t=412413 - Jormandgundr (Worshipper )
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=84221 - Therianthrope (AxemRangerBlue)
http://forums.gwonline.net/showpost....2&postcount=12 - Martial Artist (Bozos Of Bones )
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10073408 - Enchanter (Elruid)

http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=440967 - Dryad (Benovolent Zephyr )
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=441289 - Worshipper (Jormandgundr )
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=444436 - Goliath (Akirai Annuvil)
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=445519 -Alchemist/PyroEngineer (Joes Sin)
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=438651 - Time Mage (Thalanor Thornhale)

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10141388 - Dubby's 11 Wonderful CC

http://guildwars.gameamp.com/forum/showTopic/47771.php - game Amp Link
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=443214 -GW's CC list

I also like this list by Ifmiren...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ifmiren

But Guildwars only has 8! It can't possibly be complete without having at least the following classes more:
-Enchanters (enchanting, hexing)
-Battlemasters / Bards (temporary morale boosts, staves or pole arms)
-Witches / Warlocks (demon binding, hexing)
-Illusionists (shadowcasting, misdirection)
-Alchemists (buffs, transformations)
-Shapeshifters (shapeshifting)
-Rogues (stealth, blindsiding)
-Beastriders (hey, the dwarves got em!)
-Skinriders (possession, whips)
-Mechanists (guns, gizmos)
-Timeshifters / Planewalkers (banishing, timewarping)
-Pirates!!! (arrrrr....)

http://forums.gwonline.net/showpost....&postcount=242
-Class combo list by Hyru

ValaOfTheFens (Idea for Self Trigger Traps for Engineer)

GWO super list
http://forums.gwonline.net/showthrea...ighlight=druid

Quote:

A minor note of observation in concepting class.

I think it is hard to come up with a new class that have new function at this point. As you well know, most of the archtype of typical rpg class can be cover by the 6 core classes, or its combination (Paladin = W/Mo). There is little room for new function type. Even the expansion class they came up with are just extension of the core's combination. There might be more, but hte only two function that was not cover that I can think of are Stealth and Gating (teleporting), but those two are also hard to blance.

However, there are still two things that a new class can fall back on.
One, is theme. A good theme, or character image, would attract player to playing that class, much like how the Naruto-wannabe flock to assassin. So if the class is sexy enough, one can over look its repeat of same old function.

Another is playing style. Usually it depend on what playing mechanic it offers. So Monk, Ritual, Paragon, can all be seen to have a very similar function, that of a buffer/healer. But the way each play is very differnt.

Thirdly, is how it's attributes are combined. This allow one to make a seemly different character, and allow more choice in proff combo. Like how paragon match a physical range (which was cover by Ranger) with shout buffs (which was offered by Warrior or Monks) into one.

So maybe with those in mind, could help you make a more unique class concept.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...1&postcount=22 - CC tips

benmanhaha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

nowhere!!!

N/Mo

26 Nov 2005 at 22:32 - 2

the retiarii
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=76800
(shameless plug)

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

27 Nov 2005 at 00:47 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by benmanhaha

the retiarii
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=76800
(shameless plug)

That is low down shameless....

(i will plug you again)

Elena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Belgium

27 Nov 2005 at 01:11 - 4

i'd say engineer yust seems the most original approach

jesh

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, CA

Penguin Village

Mo/

27 Nov 2005 at 01:27 - 5

The sorcerer class from NWN. Eat my timestop, you worthless w/mo noobs.

Of course that will never happen, so I vote for druid or some sort of pikeman.

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

27 Nov 2005 at 08:26 - 6

Do any you want, I don't see the reason you need to ask us which, just do one!

almightytom

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

fahq

Mo/N

06 Dec 2005 at 02:19 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesh

The sorcerer class from NWN. Eat my timestop, you worthless w/mo noobs.

Of course that will never happen, so I vote for druid or some sort of pikeman.

meh. only problem with a sorcerer class is that it is pretty much an elementalist. the majority of the elementalist water skills slow down or stop an opponent outright. sorcerer would pretty much be an elementalist in a cool robe.

as for pikeman, that would ridiculously unbalance the game unless they were terrible with pikes. a pike does alot of damage at decent range, so you would have to make them either be terribly innacurate, or find some other way to nerf them.

druid: have you ever played Diablo 2? druid = ewww.

PicardSunstar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

06 Dec 2005 at 02:22 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by actionjack

I cann't find a Poll Option! Oh well, have to do it the old fashion ways.
Anyhow, what new class would you like to see. Actually, the question should be, What new concept class should I write up/revise.
While I have been stop playing GW, but still a high intersted in making concept classes, especially with the good people here. I have done alot of those CC before, and many still need a better write up and revision, and while I do want to get to all of them someday, I am just lazy. But I feel I should do one this break, and cann't decide which one, thus this post... (also to get a feeling to see if anyone is still interested to read my stuff) And here are the choices...

Engineer
Brawler/Chi-master
Dragoon/Rider/Knight
Commander
Enchanter
Dualist/Pirate?
Bard
Naps

hmmm... what o what.

Engineer- See Closed Post of hate
Dragoon/Rider/Knight- So more of a w/mo paladin
Commander-uh...so a party leader?
Enchanter- so a prot monk?
Duelist/Pirate- Pirates...hmmm...pirate suck
Bard- Yeah a singer...that would help...
Naps- go take one instead of making these stupid posts

darkdragon99

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

decatur indiana

hell's mercenaries

W/E

06 Dec 2005 at 02:23 - 9

Brawler/Chi-master

how i'd love that

almightytom

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

fahq

Mo/N

06 Dec 2005 at 02:26 - 10

dragon, i gotta agree with you for once. brawler/chi would be cool. imo, it would just be a melee monk (like the majority of real monks are) ie: staff, hand to hand combat styles.

darkdragon99

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

decatur indiana

hell's mercenaries

W/E

06 Dec 2005 at 02:26 - 11

y would a say a word to you when i can just tell Dralspire about you trying to start another flame war

almightytom

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

fahq

Mo/N

06 Dec 2005 at 02:31 - 12

actually, if i recall correctly, you started the last flame war. im tryin to keep it civil in here and have a real conversation, but if you are threatening to report my guild mates, i might get nasty.
now. heres my ideas for brawler/chi
attributes:
chi (main attribute. affects the monks chance to hit, and maybe damage)
hand-to-hand (increases damage done while fighting without a weapon)
staff (increases damage done while fighting with a melee staff)
prayers (improves skills related to boosting damage done with hand to hand and staff, and also improves skills related to healing)

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

06 Dec 2005 at 02:44 - 13

Kaboom. Keep it clean, ladies.

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

06 Dec 2005 at 02:45 - 14

Thxs, Lasareth

PicardSunstar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

06 Dec 2005 at 02:49 - 15

why the hell was rage banned...he has a right to post an opinion as he wants...thats freaking messed up...

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

06 Dec 2005 at 02:50 - 16

Look at the forum guidelines again, Picard. There's a section called "flaming"

I'm still working on the others.

Till then, please return to the subject in a civil manner.

PicardSunstar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

06 Dec 2005 at 02:54 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasareth

Look at the forum guidelines again, Picard. There's a section called "flaming"

I'm still working on the others.

Till then, please return to the subject in a civil manner.

so basicly your gonna tell me nothing...

Bubba Lips

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

North Carolina

The Grave Diggers [gds]

Mo/W

06 Dec 2005 at 02:56 - 18

spearmen would be ownage IMO.

darkdragon99

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

decatur indiana

hell's mercenaries

W/E

06 Dec 2005 at 02:56 - 19

ooo the brawler/chi could also use something like brass nuckles that go with the hand to hand that way you can get some item bonus

PicardSunstar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

06 Dec 2005 at 02:58 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubba Lips

spearmen would be ownage IMO.

Yes because warriors dont have enough different weapons...

almightytom

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

fahq

Mo/N

06 Dec 2005 at 02:59 - 21

i dunno about brass knuckles, i was thinkin something more along the lines of hand wrappings or gauntlets of sorts. probably the hand wrappings.

Bubba Lips

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

North Carolina

The Grave Diggers [gds]

Mo/W

06 Dec 2005 at 03:01 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by PicardSunstar

Yes because warriors dont have enough different weapons...

love the sarcasm.

Spearmen as in a skirmisher class

Warrior-Melee
Spearmen/Skirmisher-Ranged Projectiler

PicardSunstar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

06 Dec 2005 at 03:02 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubba Lips

love the sarcasm.

Spearmen as in a skirmisher class

Warrior-Melee
Spearmen/Skirmisher-Ranged Projectiler

so another warrior?

almightytom

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

fahq

Mo/N

06 Dec 2005 at 03:05 - 24

oh you mean the kind of spearman that throws a spear. which is actually called a javelin...anyway, that wouldnt be such a good idea. spearmen typically did not carry multiple spears, so you would throw your spear, then have to go get it, then throw it again. little bit tedious, no?

darkdragon99

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

decatur indiana

hell's mercenaries

W/E

06 Dec 2005 at 03:23 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by almightytom

i dunno about brass knuckles, i was thinkin something more along the lines of hand wrappings or gauntlets of sorts. probably the hand wrappings.

so basicly your idea is to have it's hand armor as it's weapon or maybe i have it wrong

almightytom

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

fahq

Mo/N

06 Dec 2005 at 03:47 - 26

nah, you are a little bit off. i would say that the hand armor would be wrist wrappings (you see them alot in boxing) and the actual weapon would be either knuckles like you said, or some sort of bladed/spiked gauntlet, or just a simple hand/knuckle wrapping. the actual armor would just cover the forearm.

Lampshade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Xen of Onslaught

06 Dec 2005 at 07:05 - 27

Wheres your Alchemist AJ!

I thought he was the coolest, brewing potions to buff other players.

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

06 Dec 2005 at 08:30 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lampshade

Wheres your Alchemist AJ!

I thought he was the coolest, brewing potions to buff other players.

I modified it a bit....
It is actually more or less a check list for me to write/reviese the class ideas that I have. And since I cann't set my mind on one, thus this thread.

Some class might look like repeat of exisiting, but that is the challenge, in how to make it unique, with its own role, and still intersting to play. If have time, maybe try to do a Dragoon, since that still eluded me..... so far attribute/skill line in consideration are:
Mount Dragon: Ride a land-dragon (lots special condition to go with that)
Breath: close range cone area elemental attacks
Lance/Spear Mastery: Piercing attack, better for single target
Polearm Mastery: wilder range of attack, better for multi target
Bravery(?): self buffs and defense.

But need something more to make it more differnt... suggestions?

goeegoanna

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/Mo

17 Mar 2006 at 04:11 - 29

Druid....it just has to be added. No question about it. Think of the possibilities like plant, weather and animal control. Entangling roots,lightning storm, treant pet perhaps, thorn armour, bark skin, toxins ...oooh the list goes on.

Warlock, summon demon, demon flesh, curses, fire and shadow damage, voodoo magic of sorts

demon blade, immunities to poison and disease

Oh the joys of Druids and Walocks

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

17 Mar 2006 at 04:38 - 30

Warlock sounds fun too. I like the name Heretic as well.

on side note... how did this one got dig up again?
wasn't expect to see this pop up again.. beside turning it into my own CC index.....

oh well...

Siren

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

17 Mar 2006 at 07:46 - 31

I've got to go with the revised version of the Engineer. It's not the initial post in the Engineer thread, more the final two or three posts in that thread.

I'd like to see Engineer simply because then Dennis Hopper could say "Pop quiz, hotshot. I just strapped a bomb to your chest. What do you do?"

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

17 Mar 2006 at 11:45 - 32

Warlock

Bob of Maple Ave

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Unforgiven Servants

E/N

17 Mar 2006 at 12:48 - 33

the greasy, coke-habit pornographer.

Starsky-sama

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Land of the Z Chest \o/

[NOT]-Nomads of Turmoil.

W/

17 Mar 2006 at 13:12 - 34

All I really want to see are:

1.-A Dual swords/axe concept (of course turn imbalance if it were to be implemented at this stage of the game)

( Mostly, I would like to see: )
2. -A 2 hand req. Sword master (Berserker) concept. (hammer is blunt, use same aspects as what is done for hammers, but with a pierce type with greater atk than normal 1 hand swords, etc.)