Speculation abounds! Supposed 'leaked pics' of alpha test.

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

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BEN

R/N

27 Nov 2005 at 19:15 - 41

I found some alpha sketches of the new skills that leaked

here's alex weekes down at anet (the inspiration for the new whip)

Xue Yi Liang

Jungle Guide

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Northern CA

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Mo/Me

27 Nov 2005 at 19:16 - 42

I'm still waiting for the OP to give us the original links he supposedly got them from ....

... oh well, he's probably still busy photoshop-tweaking the second "screencap" before he posts it again.

Xue Yi Liang

Jungle Guide

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Mo/Me

27 Nov 2005 at 19:21 - 43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron

Why would it deal more damage to enemies that are farther away? A whip is a meele weapon, not a ranged weapon. The closer you would be to it the more damage you would take, according to common logic; am I mistaken? In theory you'd be mistaken. The way a whip works is that it accumulates all the momentum in an arm/shoulder swing to travel down a lash of smaller and smaller diameter. The conservation of momentum will drive more distant segments of the whip to higher and higher velocities - the small end of the whip cracks because it's actually breaking the sound barrier ... A whip has a certain optimal range, though a user can choke up on his lash or manipulate it to affect targets of different distances. Still, up close a whip is pretty much useless.

Sagius Truthbarron

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27 Nov 2005 at 19:24 - 44

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gen...topic=24817276

Sarus

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Idiot Savants

Mo/

27 Nov 2005 at 19:26 - 45

Unless they hired 5 year olds to do the new skill icons I'd say these look pretty fake to me. Although maybe an intern did them. *shrugs*

Xue Yi Liang

Jungle Guide

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Mo/Me

27 Nov 2005 at 19:26 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gen...topic=24817276 thx. I'll take back one of my snide comments ... just one ...

Crotalus

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Join Date: May 2005

27 Nov 2005 at 19:27 - 47

Originally Posted by Xue Yi Liang

I appreciate your comment but my statement about the damage dealt has nothing to do with my belief that it's fake. It's just a separate observation.

No but you did use it as an argument as being fake. I could easily see you say it is fake because of the damage.

Quote: If you want to know why I believe it's a fake then look at my other posts. lol..font kerning?

I think it is a fake not because of the SS but because we are still posting in this topic. I am quite sure that some Alpha testers are browsing this forum right now. Maybe some are mods

They know which ones are against the NDA and which ones arent. If this topic is nuked in the near future then we will know if this is a fake or not.

Originally Posted by Xue Yi Liang

Crotalus seems to be the only one here who thinks it might be real ... It seems that you are the only one that cant read on this forum. Please tell me where i said it is real?

Good day sir and have fun with this topic. I am going on to Guild Wars and play a little. I will wait until Chapter 2 to see if they add whips.

Sagius Truthbarron

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27 Nov 2005 at 19:35 - 48

Here's the first person to post these. http://forums.gwonline.net/showthrea...6&page=1&pp=10

All the person who made these said when he posted was "OMGZ do you think FEMA will get mad?" I think they mean the PETA or whatever that organization is that zealously campaings against the ban of meat.

The Deathly Swarm animation that you see on the other Stone Summit in the background is supposed to be the Cyclone Whip spell or whatever that was, I think. If you look on the radar, there is a necromancer standing behind her casting it.

Chance Folly

Frost Gate Guardian

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E/Mo

27 Nov 2005 at 19:36 - 49

Additionally, it claims that the "\" key would open and close the "Target Priority" window. Our scammer didn't do his homework, because "\" is already assigned by default to "Target Nearest".

Xue Yi Liang

Jungle Guide

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Mo/Me

27 Nov 2005 at 19:51 - 50

Looks like I'm going to enter a purse-swinging battle
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crotalus

No but you did use it as an argument as being fake. I could easily see you say it is fake because of the damage.

Here's my complete statement, "It's interesting to see a bullwhip that does more basic damage than any sword, axe or bow. I don't recall anyone ever getting beheaded or dying from a single lash of a whip ... lol" - If it's not obvious, I'm ridiculing the whip stats - As I recall "Beheading" isn't in GW either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crotalus lol..font kerning? if you laugh at everything you don't understand you must be laughing all the time ... Google "kerning" if you don't get it.
Quote: Originally Posted by Crotalus It seems that you are the only one that cant read on this forum. Please tell me where i said it is real? read my statement again carefully, "Crotalus seems to be the only one here who thinks it might be real ..." I didn't say you thought it WAS real - I said you think it MIGHT BE real. You entertained that thought when you said this:

Originally Posted by Crotalus

I hope it is not a fake. I would like to see whip attacks in the next Chapter. However i dont think it should be linked to Beastmastery. That attribute has enough problems as is. Hopefully it is for a new class! everyone else was just dismissing it as a complete hoax ... Since you HOPE it's real, it's safe to say you think it MIGHT BE real.

Geez. With the sense of logic demonstrated here I hope you have a lawyer to help you read contracts in the future.

Originally Posted by Crotalus

Good day sir and have fun with this topic. I am going on to Guild Wars and play a little. I will wait until Chapter 2 to see if they add whips. Don't leave so soon! I was just making espresso!

All in good fun. If they add whips I'll still give you 1 gold piece.

A User Name

Academy Page

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27 Nov 2005 at 20:04 - 51

It would be an awesome idea if true, but most likely not true.

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

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27 Nov 2005 at 20:24 - 52

I looked with a zoom thing I have on my computer and the skills fit perfectly even in bar and the skills are edited for color but like any other skill.

Also lets not forget that Ranger are the only ones with only one weapon linking to one attruibute to indroducing another does make sense.

I would like this if it were introduced in the game and I would make a because it would make cool beastmasters.

Either someone doesn't have a life or these are real.

Crotalus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

27 Nov 2005 at 20:45 - 53

Originally Posted by Xue Yi Liang

if you laugh at everything you don't understand you must be laughing all the time ... Google "kerning" if you don't get it.

I am sorry i am not a secretary. I have no idea what kerning is and how that proves that these ss are a fake. That is why i put a question mark at the end. Please enlighten me! You can use ingame ss as well as the ones in the orginal post.

This is your time to shine, girl!

read my statement again carefully, "Crotalus seems to be the only one here who thinks it might be real ..." I didn't say you thought it WAS real - I said you think it MIGHT BE real. You entertained that thought when you said this:

everyone else was just dismissing it as a complete hoax ... Since you HOPE it's real, it's safe to say you think it MIGHT BE real. Yes i did entertain the idea! i would love new weapons. The whip would be a nice addition. I won't buy Chapter 2 unless it has new areas, weapons, armor, and classes. If you dont want new weapons then please dont buy chapter 2.

No, not everybody dismissed it reading this and other forums. They also HOPEd that is included in chapter 2. In fact one stated that it would be an awesome idea. I agree.

I guess the scientist in me doesn't quickly disprove something without getting all the facts. We simply dont have all the facts and wont until it is released. Glancing at a SS is NOT getting all the facts. No matter how you spin it. However, i still think it is a fake but not by your logic.

heist23

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R/Mo

27 Nov 2005 at 20:47 - 54

after seeing those screenshots, i'm starting to believe that this crap is real.

i definitely don't like it, though.

Eonwe

Jungle Guide

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Idiot Savants

27 Nov 2005 at 21:01 - 55

Roffle at that snare skill =\ . Give the devs some credit atleast, I doubt that they're that stupid.

Fear The Destroyer

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27 Nov 2005 at 22:28 - 56

Yep. It's a great idea, if balanced. But, too bad that the screenshot looks so fake. :P

Storm Crow

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Children of the Order [CoO] -True Heroes Fight to Keep the Balance-

27 Nov 2005 at 23:09 - 57

you people make decisions MUCH too quickly.

Exhibit A: this is a TEST, text is sure to be imperfect, and lighting off key.
Exhibit B: again, this is a TEST, skills most likly will be changed before the release.
Exhibit C: thirtypercent pointed out that the Bull Whip should say 'Bull's Whip of Beast Mastery', maybe the Bull Whip has a +Beast Mastery standard
Exhibit D: the first chapter took many elements from other games and movies and played them into the game, maybe the second chapter will do the same.
Exhibit E: damage of weapons will most likly be changed, again this is a TEST
Exhibit F: I would hope more skills/weapons would be added to chapter 2, how boring would it be otherwise?
Exhibit G: key uses might be changed for chapter 2
Eshibit H: If I could note the comment on 'theres a necro behind her casting Deathly Swarm' please view the first ss. There are no other characters with her, and there is a Gnasher in the Target Priority window
Exhibit I: grammer should not be expected to be absolutely perfect in alpha is it?

point and case. thank you

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

27 Nov 2005 at 23:31 - 58

Heh. The Know-It-Alls thought the assassin concept art was fake too and thought people were stupid for believing it. "OMG That looks so fake! ROFL!!" I'm not saying this is real... it probably isnt because as someone pointed out, this thread hasnt been deleted due to NDA...

Snare does seem ridiculously overpowered... and the whip skills do seem thought up by a kid who wants to "pwn" everything. But all this means nothing since these are supposedly alpha stuff. I've worked as a game tester for several companies and grammar, graphics, and skill balance are hardly ever up to par...that's why things are TESTED.

Anyway, if this is a fake, the person did a good job on the screenshots.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

28 Nov 2005 at 00:18 - 59

As someone who makes fake screenshots...those are pretty bad.

Font spacing and size are all wrong, the skills are overpowered, and those whips are too fluid to be polygon based.

Ranger Li

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28 Nov 2005 at 00:57 - 60

:sigh:

I wish this *would* happen so my ranger would have a use apart from playing the good ol Spikers, Trappers, And Interrupters which are starting to get borning super fast cause no1 can really play Good spiker rangers excluding decent guild groups or decent rankers

Snare..I think that skill deservers a cookie

Just imagine, 8 man Whip team r/w, TF on! LETS LASSO EM UP KIDS!

Asplode

Desert Nomad

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Chicago, IL

Rebel Rising [rawr]

28 Nov 2005 at 01:04 - 61

I believe it's real, but snare seems incredibly overpowered. Perma-keeping the ghostly off the altar FTL!

-edit-
The primary reason I think they're real is because of the actual ranger in the screenshot. Those poses are definitely genuine, and don't exist in the current game.

That and the ivory whip in the description corresponds with the ivory whip in the 2nd screenshot

Also, what is that "target priority" window? That seems pretty innovative.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

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R/Mo

28 Nov 2005 at 01:19 - 62

Originally Posted by Asplode

I believe it's real, but snare seems incredibly overpowered. Perma-keeping the ghostly off the altar FTL!

-edit-
The primary reason I think they're real is because of the actual ranger in the screenshot. Those poses are definitely genuine, and don't exist in the current game.

That and the ivory whip in the description corresponds with the ivory whip in the 2nd screenshot

Also, what is that "target priority" window? That seems pretty innovative. Those two poses are:

Wanding attack.

Ranger using something like troll unguent (They cross their arms)

Gigashadow

Jungle Guide

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W/

28 Nov 2005 at 01:34 - 63

The wording of the skills is very clumsy and does not follow the writing style used by existing skills.

Master of the Death

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here

ANAG

N/Mo

28 Nov 2005 at 01:52 - 64

Probably fake but it is a very good idea.

Savio

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Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

28 Nov 2005 at 02:05 - 65

Unless Anet decides to release screenshots itself, closed. It's not really well done anyway.