Word of Warning: buying Unidentified items

I've noticed more and more that people are selling unidentified items to gamers who hope they will get something really good. I just want to point out that many item mods can be discovered without identifying the item. Easily discovered mods are as follows:

+ health
+ health while enchanted
+ health in stance
+ energy (staff and wand mod)
- energy (damage always weapon)
- energy regen (zealous)
- health regen (vamp)
+ energy while enchanted

Basically, to test this yourself, next time you find a blue, purple, or gold item, equip the item before you identify it. If you suddenly gain health, then you have an item with a health bonus. Another example would be that your health would start to degenerate if there was a vampiric mod on the weapon.

Obviously, other mods such as damage increase, or +1 random attribute would not be as easy to test, but you get the picture, hopefully...

This post is just serving as a "heads-up" for buyers who think they have a chance of getting certain mods when they buy unidentified items. Be aware that the seller has most likely tested the item to see if it has any health bonus on it.

Oooooh nifty. Do you have to meet the requirement of the weapon/items to get the full bonus? Like will I know how much health I got from that fortitude mod by equipping it?

item mods do not have level requirements that need to be met. Level requirements only effect the damage you do with a weapon, the energy you get froma focus item, and the armor you get from a shield.

the requirement is onyl for damage on weapons and staffs, armor for shields, and the base +energy on focus's

You're right. I've never once bought an unided item that had a mod on it. Shouldn't this be considered a scam? It's obviously dishonest.

Thanks for letting us on to this

I read something on one of the forums on this and tested it out. Sure enough the health mods, etc can be found out without identifying it. I could never understand anyone buying the unid items anyways but to each his/her own.

People buy unid'd items to unlock the item mods for PvP. I'm surprised this still is a market since faction is fairly easy to come by. It's not really a scam to sell these this way, it was a viable market at one time.

The reason some people buy Unided items is for unlocking purposes

Wow, I like this, there are times I REALLY don't want to Id an item because it's value goes down... thats a good Idea to test them beforehand I'd never thought of doing that before... TNX.

I guess if the seller was saying "UnID-ed +30 health sword" and you bought it and it wasnt a +30 then it would be really dishonest. XD

It stands to reason, then: If you know the mod in advance, you could ask a higher price if it is a highly desirable mod.

Not that I would bother looking if I were going to sell an item. I just Identify everything. I still have plenty of stuff to unlock.

Hopefully if enough people read this post, the price for unid items will go waaaay down, because people will know that they will most likely be getting crap.

Obviously, mods like Sundering, Furious, Enchanting are not as easy to test, so there could still be a chance to get one of those by purchasing an unid item, but thats not the point of the post. The point is: Dont buy unid hoping to get something really good like +30 health or +45 while enchanted, because it aint gonna happen.

I brought a unid Gold Mursaat Bow. When i ID it and guess what i got.. a 10/10 Sundering Bow String. I don't think you can't test out the 10/10 armor pentration unless you can count all the damages.

Sigh... not new, and I think I've seen two other threads posted about it.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...highlight=vamp

EDIT: I can't find the stupid other thread. In the absence of that, I'm reopening the thread; thanks to Splatter for being patient and polite.

Interesting let em try this out

But isn't it dumb to ask someone who selling a unid weapons to go outside town and try it out? But i do agree, people probably tried the weapons before they id it so that they can save the good UNID stuffs and sell the rest to people who want to unlock PVP.

Here's a quote that I hope the OP doesn't mind my reposting;

I think it's about the closest parallel possible.

Haven't been on this site for weeks. Finally I post something since this is worthwhile thread.

I believe that this method of "virtually-identifying" was not meant to be. They probably overlooked this when programming item drops. At leats you posted this so other people understand to be careful buying Un-ided.

P.S. I'd be the last to care: I gave away a few 4:1 vampiric stuff and unided golds.

Oh, that thread. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ighlight=coins
I skipped over closed threads. Explains a lot. Stop outposting me Merc.

You can also tell what prefix a weapon has sometimes by looking at its damage type. If the Axe, Sword, Hammer, or Bow is missing the Slashing/Piercing/Blunt damage, that means it's an elemental type.

What I can't figure out is why anyone would pay money for an unidentified shield. There's no mods to unlock, and the odds of getting a good +health shield are exactly zero.

For that matter, the idea of paying 25k for an unidentified gold fellblade is equally proposterous to me.

Rico