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Urfin

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Moscow, Russia

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29 Nov 2005 at 18:59 - 1

UPDATED: Added skill damage, tidied up damage mods on weapons and added vampiric effect to them. Source code is now availible for download for those OMGKEYLOGGER-paranoid types among you

Spike does one thing - it takes your character's, weapon/skill & target stats and calculates how much damage you will do to them. A bit more convenient that an Excel sheet/web form

What it does:

Works for any weapon
Correctly calculates reduced gains for attribute levels above 12
Damage & Armor penetration modifiers
Vampiric effect
Adjustable critical hit chance
Actual Min, Max & Critical damages, as well as actual DPS with and without crits.
Skill damage
Ignoring armor for skills

It is NOT a scam, virus, keylogger or anything like that, just a damage calc.

Download instructions in the case you're unfamilliar with Rapidshare:
On the page that the link opens up, click the "Free" button, then on the next page wait for about a minute and the script will give you a link "Download: Spike_1.2.rar", click it.

http://rapidshare.de/files/8341201/Spike_1.2.rar.html [220 KB]

Source code (Requires Borland C++ Builder 6 to build):
http://rapidshare.de/files/8341266/S...ource.rar.html [660 KB]

What it does not currently do that it should:

Proper critical hit chance formula - I don't know it, so I had to make it adjustable. The default for equal opponents is rumoured to be 20%. If you know the formula - please contact me and I'll implement it.

Feedback is always welcome, so please comment

Ollj

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

29 Nov 2005 at 19:13 - 2

can anyone double check this .rar.html file?

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

29 Nov 2005 at 19:18 - 3

For us non-techincal types, how do we use this? I've downloaded both...

Toll Booth Willie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

tn, usa

E/Mo

29 Nov 2005 at 19:21 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetdoc

For us non-techincal types, how do we use this? I've downloaded both...

Trusting, i am never one of the first to download.
He may be a good guy doing a nice thing but I'll let others find out first.

Urfin

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Moscow, Russia

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29 Nov 2005 at 19:21 - 5

You input your char level, target AL, attribute & weapon/skill stats into the text fields, and immediately get real damage in the colored fields

all input fields have popup hints on them, just hover the mouse over them.

Jetdoc

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29 Nov 2005 at 19:24 - 6

Really stupid here - WHAT program do I use to open it up?

Urfin

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Moscow, Russia

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29 Nov 2005 at 19:25 - 7

Paranoia is such a nice thing eh

Just check the source code if you THAT afraid. I would have to be a bloody good programmer to make a text file infect your PC with something.

Sentao Nugra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Crystal Lake, Illinois

Grenths Rejects [GR]

29 Nov 2005 at 19:26 - 8

winrar works for extracting it, then i would assume its a regular .exe

Urfin

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Moscow, Russia

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29 Nov 2005 at 19:30 - 9

Erm, you mean the RAR archive? Use WinRAR (http://www.winrar.com), for one. I tend to forget that the only thing ppl recognize is zip

I guess I'll go upload zipped versions :/

Jetdoc

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29 Nov 2005 at 19:30 - 10

Thanks - it works, and is only slowly eating my harddrive. I personally enjoy the Viagra and Cialis popups as well (just kidding)!!!!!

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

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29 Nov 2005 at 19:31 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urfin

[*]Proper critical hit chance formula - I don't know it, so I had to make it adjustable. The default for equal opponents is rumoured to be 20%. If you know the formula - please contact me and I'll implement it. Feedback is always welcome, so please comment

This is the only thing that needs to be adjusted - I've tried it with a few combos, and it appears to be working properly. Very nice tool!!!!

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

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29 Nov 2005 at 19:33 - 12

By the way, how does the "skill damage" work? Is it in addition to the base damage?

I always thought that if you used a skill, the armor penetration bonus you get from Strength will apply not only to the skill damage but also to the base damage as well...

Sentao Nugra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Crystal Lake, Illinois

Grenths Rejects [GR]

29 Nov 2005 at 19:33 - 13

one question:

i looked at the source and remember the critical hit % chance to be 2*(att calculation) not 2^(att calculation). i just wanted to check and make sure that is right

i may be wrong, just wanted to check

Code:

 EffMin = Min * (1+(DamMod/100)) * pow(2, ((5 * Attrib - 60) / 40));
  EffMax = Max * (1+(DamMod/100)) * pow(2, ((5 * Attrib - 60) / 40));
  EffCrit = Max * (1+(DamMod/100)) * pow(2, ((5 * Attrib - 40) / 40));

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

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The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

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29 Nov 2005 at 19:39 - 14

If the code is right (and I'm right about strength above), an interesting tidbit is that, using a max axe you will increase your DPS by 1 for every 5 attribute point in strength (when facing an opponent with 100 AL). I hadn't seen that calculated by that before.

Urfin

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

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29 Nov 2005 at 19:40 - 15

All right, zipped versions for the technically challenged

Spike 1.2:
http://rapidshare.de/files/8343231/Spike_1.2.zip.html [275 KB]

Spike 1.2 source code:
http://rapidshare.de/files/8343319/S...ource.zip.html [967 KB]

Jetdoc, the problem is I can't find the formula anywhere, and testing to reverse-engineer it would be quite time-consuming

The 20% chance for equal opponents feels right from my limited experience (I'm just a week into the game

).

Sentao Nugra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Crystal Lake, Illinois

Grenths Rejects [GR]

29 Nov 2005 at 19:50 - 16

looks great to me, and as far as i can see there is no keylogger in the c++. next thing you might want to do is add a buffers list for checks (judges insight, conjures, etc)

p.s. one of the mods should move this to the community tools forum

Urfin

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29 Nov 2005 at 19:50 - 17

Sentao Nugra, crit basically lowers the target's AL by 20, which is what the formula does, hence -40 instead of -60. And there is no critical hit chance calculation in my proggie at all, since the formula is unknown. You just set the percentage of critical hits you want, and I do:

WeightedDamage = NormalDamage * (100% - CritChance) + CritDamage * CritChance

Being the lazy bastard that I am, I was primarily using these 2 excellent sources of info on the game's mechanics, so if the calc is wrong, blame them unless I got a bug

:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...nics-id674.php

http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Damage

Urfin

Academy Page

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Moscow, Russia

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29 Nov 2005 at 20:04 - 18

Most of the tricky skills can be done with the proggie already, actually.

I.e. for Judge's Insight you would just add another 20% to the armor penetration the weapon with a chance of 100%.

For Conjure Flame, I'm not quite sure actually whether to calc the bonus fire damage off attribute, or off character level. That is, I'm not sure if the bonus damage is actually skill or weapon damage, and whether it's added to th base damage of the weapon and therefore goes into the calcs, or just flat on top of the result, like vampiric.

Off the top of my head, the only thing is can't readily do is Flurry, which theoretically gives about 12% more DPS than normal attacks, but in my experience, that REALLY disagrees with reality - I do less damage over time with it than without it, it seems. But I'm not exceptionally lucky, and it's only 5 attacks with a sword/axe, so I'm not sure about it.

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

29 Nov 2005 at 22:26 - 19

Hey Urfin, do you play EvE? Just wondering because your avatar looks like it is from eve, maybe not though.

Eonwe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

New Jersey

Idiot Savants

29 Nov 2005 at 22:28 - 20

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/calculators/guru_armor.php

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

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29 Nov 2005 at 23:22 - 21

Rapidshare has to be one of the most shitty hosts on the WWW.
Please, for the love of God, don't let rapidshare become synonymous with these boards.
There are too many hosts for me to list here.
None of them that i know of, require you to nearly format your drive and wipe the existence of rapidshare from your PC just to download something. /sarcasm

-Good day

Urfin

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Moscow, Russia

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30 Nov 2005 at 08:41 - 22

Eonwe, and your point is?

Tactical, yes, Rapidshare is scary, but it works, and contrary to popular belief it only requires you to press 1 button and wait for 1 minute before downloading

. If it mutilated your HDD - well, maybe your PC is a hidden masochist or something

. If you don't like it that much, suggest something else.

Alias_X, yes, I play EVE since release and that is indeed my spiffeh face there.

And crap oh crap I forgot to add the penetration bonus from strength

There's way too much penetratin' going on in this game methinks.

Sentao Nugra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Crystal Lake, Illinois

Grenths Rejects [GR]

02 Dec 2005 at 19:59 - 23

by adding 5 more text entry points (2 for duration (durMin, durMax), 2 for damage (damMin, damMax), 1 for attribute (attP)), you can also add in a skill calculator.

exDam = (((damMax-damMin)/15)*attP);
exDur = (((durMax-durMin)/15)*attP);
effDam += exDam;

simplified damage calc for eviscerate for 16 att points:
(do regular attack damage check first)
exDam = (((40-1)/15)*16); or 41.6 damage
exDur = (((20-5)/15)*16); or 21s for deep wound

will just take a little minor tweaking to add certain things like this into the program and make it a full calculator (w/o a keylog for once)