ranger hair bug

Crimson Icarus

Crimson Icarus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

family dysfunktional

W/Mo

Hi i'm new to the forums and i've been playing gw for some time now i have a w/mo level 20 and i wanted to create a new character i chose the ranger and happy of the way he looks as soon as i go outside ascalon to do the ranger test i notice whenever my ranger fires an arrow the hair sticks into the head its pretty annoying and i don't know what causes this problem i posted this in many forums but i didn't recieve any answer to solve it


Screenies:
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/31521392325.jpg&s=x2
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/31521411113.jpg&s=x2

Crimson Icarus

Crimson Icarus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

family dysfunktional

W/Mo

anybody!!??

Narada

Narada

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

United States

Clan Foxrunner

R/P

I may be missing something, but it doesn't look like there's anything wrong to me.

Kwisatz_Haderach

Kwisatz_Haderach

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Have you tried looking at from the other side?

Crimson Icarus

Crimson Icarus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

family dysfunktional

W/Mo

yes i did look from the other side its only on the side of the pics the other side is fine its kinda weird and annoying...

bizarresk

bizarresk

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

dude, its absolutely normal, i dont see one problem on those screens.. stop being a i dunno what they call it and play the game.

Crimson Icarus

Crimson Icarus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

family dysfunktional

W/Mo

wait wait are you guys blind? you don't see the huge hole in the head!!??

pkodyssey

pkodyssey

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In a cardboard box with Internet

The Order of the Frozen Tundra (TofT)

N/

Maybe his "hair flap" got loose. LOL. I personally like the frog floating above the box , under the small tent next to the storage agent in "Gates of Kryta" This game is filled with so many graphic errors it is sad.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Crimson Icarus: I'm guessing you probably have corrupted files. Unfortunately the only way I know of fixing that is to first uninstall Guild Wars, delete the program files/guildwars directory, then reinstall the game. That will give you new & fresh files, but unfortunately it also means downloading all patches again.

Music Baby

Music Baby

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/Me

yeah, try to re-install your game. and make sure u have the latest video card driver.

Paul_Bunyan

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

RES

W/N

I doubt very much that has anything to do with corrupted files. It's a graphical error in which his card/drivers/game are not calculating the geometry correctly. Too bad there's no console in GW to adjust stuff like that (like in most FPS's)...New video card drivers might fix it, though. What video card do you have?

But yeah, GW is full of minor graphical errors for many users.

Try it with a different hair-style, probably wouldn't do it...maybe, heh.

Crimson Icarus

Crimson Icarus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

family dysfunktional

W/Mo

i have the latest drivers for my ati x850xt and i did reinstall but i'm glad you guys finaly did the see the bug because bizarresk dude, its absolutely normal, i dont see one problem on those screens.. stop being a i dunno what they call it and play the game. needs glasses so i think that its just a bug from the game and meh screw it

Soulfly

Soulfly

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mormon Battalion

N/Me

To me it looks like it could be a tuft of fur with a cord wrapped around the bottom (as long as I am looking at the right thing). Other than that I cannot see a hole in the head (Zach de la Rocha should have never left RATM)

Paul_Bunyan

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

RES

W/N

I really don't like the latest Radeon drivers for the X800 series, they seem to cause more problems than they fixed, and even seem a bit more sluggish. If you can find the driver build made a few months back, like 6-8 months ago, can't remember the version, but I'd try that.

If not then you can just pretend it's a battle scar :P

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

It's not a "bug" or a "glitch" or a driver/display problem. It's common in EVERY game, it simple geometry clipping.

Because they have so many different head types, hair types & animations it's difficult (and unrealistic) to get them to all work together perfectly. In this case, the hair gets pushed though the scalp during the animation, and you can see the scalp come through. oops, oh well.

Try Doing the cheer animation with the female ranger, the shoulder stretches horribly. Better vertex weighting may have fixed that, but all things considered they did a great job.

As far as "This game is filled with so many graphic errors it is sad." I thing you need to play more games... Compared to most, this is a shining pillar of excellence.

Narada

Narada

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

United States

Clan Foxrunner

R/P

Oh crap, I just noticed that bald-spot looking thing! Is that what you were talking about?

Paul_Bunyan

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

RES

W/N

Umm, geometry clipping IS a bug/glitch. And the extent and existance of it is dependent upon the game and video card you have. It's not universally the same even on the same games. But you're right, few games have been able to really overcome the geometry problems, and there are much worse, yes.

Crimson Icarus

Crimson Icarus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

family dysfunktional

W/Mo

that's exactly what i was talking about lol its really annoying because its like that with all the hair and i really want to create a ranger...

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darksun
It's not a "bug" or a "glitch" or a driver/display problem. It's common in EVERY game, it simple geometry clipping.
One that's not present in other peoples games, though. At least I've never had my ranger avatars head poke through his hair.

Although a closer image would've been helpful; it is hard to see anything at the distance in the screenshots.

Quote:
As far as "This game is filled with so many graphic errors it is sad." I thing you need to play more games... Compared to most, this is a shining pillar of excellence.
Yes. It is one of the bug-freest PC games I've played in recent years. Compared to something like Dungeon Lords or even Everquest 2 it's completely bug-free.

Crimson Icarus

Crimson Icarus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

family dysfunktional

W/Mo

so what do you guys suggest? shall i just forget about creating a male ranger or what i'm pretty clueless some didn't even see the bug in the pics some say its the game and others my files are corrupt i really don't know what to do or think

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Your ranger will work fine, even if his scalp shows occasionally. It shouldn't affect his bow skills or survival abilities in the slightest. Feel free to play him through.

Skyfire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Legend Of Pi [Pi]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson Icarus
so what do you guys suggest? shall i just forget about creating a male ranger or what i'm pretty clueless some didn't even see the bug in the pics some say its the game and others my files are corrupt i really don't know what to do or think
I've never noticed that problem with my ranger. Have you tried playing around with the character height settings? I'm wondering if the scaling of the character might be causing the problem.

Crimson Icarus

Crimson Icarus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

family dysfunktional

W/Mo

i tried playing with the skin color height face nothing still the same problem...

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

I don't know myself, but I'm willing to bet it happens on other or ALL machines.. I will test it out.. Icarus, if you can post a close ss of the head & hair I will try it on my machine.

The other thing to note is that depending on the distance from the camera, the model will be using a different LOD. The smaller the LOD the higher chance of clipping & other issues.

Crimson Icarus

Crimson Icarus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

family dysfunktional

W/Mo

sure i will try to post some other ss in 30 mins you want one close to the head as much as possible is that right?

Crimson Icarus

Crimson Icarus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

family dysfunktional

W/Mo

more screens for you guys to enjoy

screenies:
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=12/33414563881.jpg&s=x12
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=12/33414582521.jpg&s=x12
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=12/33415002461.jpg&s=x12

as you can see i changed the height of the player hair style skin color and hair color

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

yep, so I can see what face & hair you are using.. gonna try to replicate it.

Crimson Icarus

Crimson Icarus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

family dysfunktional

W/Mo

is it normal for you or same problem???

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

He's got elf-ears!

Seriously, I've never seen that with any of my avatars.

Crimson Icarus

Crimson Icarus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

family dysfunktional

W/Mo

lol so darksun can you share the results of your experience with us??

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

nope, it works fine for me?? that is very weird.. My theory as to why it happen does not apply here..

Detis Zan

Detis Zan

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Guardians of the Black Curtain [GBC]

N/Me

Erm.. this should be the LEAST of your worries..

Mostly everyone didn't even noticed it until you got a closer head shot..

Most of the time when your gaming you're not going to be that close to your character to gaze at =P Odd it is but a real issue it is not.

Hey at least you're different from all the other rangers =)

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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gonna guess it's your graphics card

Baratus

Baratus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Elizabethtown, NC

Deathkings of The Dark Citadel

D/Me

Doesn't happen with that hair combo on my end either. Not to start a flame-war, but it's little things like this that have kept me from ATI, even though they had faster cores.

Crimson Icarus

Crimson Icarus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

family dysfunktional

W/Mo

my graphic card is fine all the other games run perfect such as half-life 2 css battlefield 2 black and white 2 that are much more demanding than guild wars so i don't think its my graphic card but maybe the 5.11 catalyst driver dunno

devilru

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

公平さの光 [微笑]

make a female instead?

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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just because all other games run doesn't mean anything...it's not the power of your card it could be your driver coding...you ever heard of Omega Drivers? I can't standt ATI's normal ones. Anyway I wasn't trying to be insulting but if you're the only one with the problem it's not the game. 10 to 1 it's your video card driver. If not then I'd say the video card itself...if I'm still wrong I'll eat my words happily.

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baratus
Doesn't happen with that hair combo on my end either. Not to start a flame-war, but it's little things like this that have kept me from ATI, even though they had faster cores.
hehe, my ATI works great.. as I said.. no hair prob for me..

Sir Hadies

Sir Hadies

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

None

W/Mo

well to me i see no prob dude take a screen shot from the outher side you know cuz how the hand and arrow are so close to the face cuz he is aiming now if you can take a pic of the side then you will see.

Crimson Icarus

Crimson Icarus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

family dysfunktional

W/Mo

if you don't see anything i'm sorry you have a problem because all the others did so... look where the ear should be and you will notice something anyway i don't care i just created an ele