. That may sound like a silly question but i am really sick of iway and mf 
some1 please help
what are todays tomb builds?
bleh
whats a good tombs build because i dont have a good guild right now so all i can do is join iway and minion factory and all they have got me is a tiny little 45 fame and a whole lot of waisted time... What is a good tombs build i can use? That would be easy enough.. to find. Like what is this balnced teams thing i hear about . That may sound like a silly question but i am really sick of iway and mf some1 please help
. That may sound like a silly question but i am really sick of iway and mf some1 please help
Farin
Your best bet would be playing with your guild, or trying to find a good group. As you said, Tombs are INFESTED with IWAY. 5 out of my 8 games tonight were iway, getting on my nerves. I've also seen many spikers. Ranger spike, Chain lighting/lighting orb spike, Shatter/shadow strike spike. A balanced team would be something with, uhm... 3 Monks, and a mix of the other clases. Something like 1-2 warriors, a mesmer or two, necros.. you get it.
naix
Todays HoH builds include: IWAY, IWAY, IWAY , IWAY, ranger spike, IWAY, minion factory, IWAY, IWAY, balenced
But to answer your question. Trying playing in a spiker/trapper team. I heal in alot of spiker teams and I really enjoy it, plus since ive recently got majorly into tombs ive gotten rank 1 in two or three days from spiker pugs and guild spiking groups.
But to answer your question. Trying playing in a spiker/trapper team. I heal in alot of spiker teams and I really enjoy it, plus since ive recently got majorly into tombs ive gotten rank 1 in two or three days from spiker pugs and guild spiking groups.
Merry Madrigal
Ask the guilds that are winning a lot lately:
Not Your Typical Guild
Patient Relaxed People
The Morning After
Skill Pvp
The Friar's Roast
Perhaps they aren't all guilds, but see what builds these teams are running. The first two win a LOT.
Not Your Typical Guild
Patient Relaxed People
The Morning After
Skill Pvp
The Friar's Roast
Perhaps they aren't all guilds, but see what builds these teams are running. The first two win a LOT.
bleh
thanks alot of your replies. I have seen these lightning spike and ranger spike teams and i will give them a go because iway is boring and mf is hopeless >_<.
just a quick question: Do guilds nowadays usually look for someone playing more than about 2 hours a day because if so im not gonan be able to go that way >_>
just a quick question: Do guilds nowadays usually look for someone playing more than about 2 hours a day because if so im not gonan be able to go that way >_>
VGJustice
I'd recomend finding a casual guild that participates in PvP. They exsist.
Good luck finding a GOOD casual guild, but hey...
Good luck finding a GOOD casual guild, but hey...
Yichi
yes and most of the builds that teams that hold halls for hours arent anything near what youd expect. they are builds in which its almost impossible to kill them. aka holding builds.
but to answer the OP's question the most common builds youll see are:
IWAY (every other match and had occasions of it every match)
Ranger Spike
Minion factory
Balanced Builds (occasionally)
Shadow/Spiteful spike
Chain/orb spike
a few others i forgot, too used to seeing IWAY lately
but to answer the OP's question the most common builds youll see are:
IWAY (every other match and had occasions of it every match)
Ranger Spike
Minion factory
Balanced Builds (occasionally)
Shadow/Spiteful spike
Chain/orb spike
a few others i forgot, too used to seeing IWAY lately
Adambomb
I play ranger spike and balanced, and they're both great fun.. try them out!
-Adam
-Adam
Fred Kiwi
Say...could I get some links to these builds? I'm having the same problem here.
bleh
thanks again for the replies and if u are thinking i am lazy and havnt tried searching i have but it seems this build forum does lack alot in the tombs build depertment by that i mean the latest builds and finding out what they are.
Livpooolsupafayn
You'll really need to get to rank 3 before you can play anything other than iway with some success. Balanced groups are my favorite but they only really work with R6 + groups. Rank 1's and 2's won't have all the necessary runes and skills unlocked to make a balanced group work, and random ranger spike groups usually wont take you too far.
Every spiker has to be on the same page, if one spiker misses the count, or cant follow targets quickly enough, it messes it up for the whole team.
Id stick to iway for now, its the best way to farm for fame early on, iway your way to rank 3 then you can start looking for a decent non iway team that will work.
Also check out the international districts. American districts have 90% IWAY groups.
A balanced team would look something like
2 heal monks
1 prot monk
1 earth elementist
1 interupt ranger
1 energy denial mesmer
2 tigers fury warriors
Theres plenty of other combos out there, just have to test a bit to see what works best.
Every spiker has to be on the same page, if one spiker misses the count, or cant follow targets quickly enough, it messes it up for the whole team.
Id stick to iway for now, its the best way to farm for fame early on, iway your way to rank 3 then you can start looking for a decent non iway team that will work.
Also check out the international districts. American districts have 90% IWAY groups.
A balanced team would look something like
2 heal monks
1 prot monk
1 earth elementist
1 interupt ranger
1 energy denial mesmer
2 tigers fury warriors
Theres plenty of other combos out there, just have to test a bit to see what works best.
Kate Bloodspirit
Quote:
Originally Posted by Merry Madrigal
Ask the guilds that are winning a lot lately:
Not Your Typical Guild
Patient Relaxed People
The Morning After
Skill Pvp
The Friar's Roast
Perhaps they aren't all guilds, but see what builds these teams are running. The first two win a LOT. A few quick things, the correct name for the first guild you mentioned is Not Your Ordinary Guild [nyog]. And second thing, [pRp] has been running 2 air spikers, 2 trappers and 1 warrior lately (Skillz Pvp's build) because it's a lot of fun to smash the buttons from time to time.
Not Your Typical Guild
Patient Relaxed People
The Morning After
Skill Pvp
The Friar's Roast
Perhaps they aren't all guilds, but see what builds these teams are running. The first two win a LOT. A few quick things, the correct name for the first guild you mentioned is Not Your Ordinary Guild [nyog]. And second thing, [pRp] has been running 2 air spikers, 2 trappers and 1 warrior lately (Skillz Pvp's build) because it's a lot of fun to smash the buttons from time to time.
mike00769
Not Your Orainary Guild*
not typical :-D
not typical :-D
Farin
Ordinary**
Tweeaaked
mike it is ordinary
im going to kick you for that post
im going to kick you for that post
Arturo02
Quote:
Originally Posted by Livpooolsupafayn
You'll really need to get to rank 3 before you can play anything other than iway with some success. Balanced groups are my favorite but they only really work with R6 + groups. Rank 1's and 2's won't have all the necessary runes and skills unlocked to make a balanced group work, and random ranger spike groups usually wont take you too far.
If you are pvp'ing without what you need unlocked, why pvp? You have no counters for this in a match.
Divine Elemental
Quote:
Originally Posted by Merry Madrigal
Ask the guilds that are winning a lot lately:
Not Your Typical Guild
Patient Relaxed People
The Morning After
Skill Pvp
The Friar's Roast
Perhaps they aren't all guilds, but see what builds these teams are running. The first two win a LOT. Quote
are u serious that TmA has been winning>?!>!>!
OMG
..... Sarry or someone Else?
Nyog used to run Ranger Spike when i was still playing like last week >_< so i really am out of date on what builds/guilds that are winning etc
TmA Revived.. Well ive been friends with a couple of them and i know they run Weird Efficient Builds that are fun and get u to hoh
ie they wer the one who started Ranger SBarrage + Orders
they used to run 3 Diff kinds of Ele Earth/Water/Air 1 Mesmer and a Ranger
Not Your Typical Guild
Patient Relaxed People
The Morning After
Skill Pvp
The Friar's Roast
Perhaps they aren't all guilds, but see what builds these teams are running. The first two win a LOT. Quote
are u serious that TmA has been winning>?!>!>!
OMG
..... Sarry or someone Else?
Nyog used to run Ranger Spike when i was still playing like last week >_< so i really am out of date on what builds/guilds that are winning etc
TmA Revived.. Well ive been friends with a couple of them and i know they run Weird Efficient Builds that are fun and get u to hoh
ie they wer the one who started Ranger SBarrage + Orders
they used to run 3 Diff kinds of Ele Earth/Water/Air 1 Mesmer and a Ranger
yesitsrob
IWAY gets frustrating after a while - not so much because it requires very little skill but because it's all you ever see.
As for asking guilds that have been winning it a lot recently. There's "Your Maths Teacher" - seen them holding quite a lot as of late.... they run an IWAY type thing :-\.
Ranger spike doesn't bother me because it's not _that_ common yet, not compared to IWAY anyway - and it also requires at least a little bit of communication
As for asking guilds that have been winning it a lot recently. There's "Your Maths Teacher" - seen them holding quite a lot as of late.... they run an IWAY type thing :-\.
Ranger spike doesn't bother me because it's not _that_ common yet, not compared to IWAY anyway - and it also requires at least a little bit of communication
tafy69
Out:
Spike Teams : Not common anymore, partly because every team brings infuse health nowadays
In:
Balanced Teams : They are making a comeback and rightly so
IWAY : Yes IWAY is here to stay and doing well for themselves
Surge Teams : Everyone hates them but they are still around.
Spike Teams : Not common anymore, partly because every team brings infuse health nowadays
In:
Balanced Teams : They are making a comeback and rightly so
IWAY : Yes IWAY is here to stay and doing well for themselves
Surge Teams : Everyone hates them but they are still around.
Anamii45
Easiest way to pick up fame early on and get some funny wins is to run an EoE (edge of extinction) bomb group. Just need a party set up to do about 100-150 damage to a few of the other teams members.. the more the better, then all sac at once, while having someone either mo/x or x/mo use mark of protection to survive the sac and res everyone with light of dwayna afterwards. Best bets for skills to do the damage would prolly be something like chain lightning, esurge, obs flame on 3-4 targets, tons of stuff one could do here. To sac, Illusion of weakness is def the safest choice ... only need to hit the button once as oppose to blood rit or other nec sac methods. Catches to this build are the EoE getting getting interupted/ killed to fast, or the mo not getting mop up, but when it works fights last like 30secs. Only maps that are a real pain with this build are relic runs... which take a bit more effort but can still be done. Id also advise not to run this with any necros... some teams stack up on necs and its a giveaway, try and be as random as possible with classes to confuse the other team bc the more offgaurd they are the better this will work out.
Azn D
Quote:
Originally Posted by naix
Todays HoH builds include: IWAY, IWAY, IWAY , IWAY, ranger spike, IWAY, minion factory, IWAY, IWAY, balenced
Nicely said with those grammar errors ;p j/k don't forget Iway, Iway, R3! Iway, trapper group, and Iway.
fiery
even with the rank 3 iway u still get the noobs.. hence does who go nuts when i say put in whirling defense and either kick barb or flame..
1) whirling helps you vs warrios vs ranger spike vs any physical damage
2) i know u cant stack the 2 stances
3) whirling is only used when taking physical damage
last night.. i made a group.. kicked out all ppl who didnt follow my build..finnally got everything settled..won every battle to HOH..so that was a build up of fame.
but ya IWAY is the way to go for fame farming, beware of the unskilled iways.
1) whirling helps you vs warrios vs ranger spike vs any physical damage
2) i know u cant stack the 2 stances
3) whirling is only used when taking physical damage
last night.. i made a group.. kicked out all ppl who didnt follow my build..finnally got everything settled..won every battle to HOH..so that was a build up of fame.
but ya IWAY is the way to go for fame farming, beware of the unskilled iways.
Tweeaaked
Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
Quote
Nyog used to run Ranger Spike when i was still playing like last week >_< we used to run that way more than a week ago :O
Nyog used to run Ranger Spike when i was still playing like last week >_< we used to run that way more than a week ago :O
Hexgame
Quote:
Originally Posted by Merry Madrigal
Ask the guilds that are winning a lot lately:
Not Your Typical Guild
Patient Relaxed People
The Morning After
Skill Pvp
The Friar's Roast
Perhaps they aren't all guilds, but see what builds these teams are running. The first two win a LOT. You don't think Your Math Teacher [MATH] Wins alot?
Not Your Typical Guild
Patient Relaxed People
The Morning After
Skill Pvp
The Friar's Roast
Perhaps they aren't all guilds, but see what builds these teams are running. The first two win a LOT. You don't think Your Math Teacher [MATH] Wins alot?
meneldur
I don't think he thought [MATH] was worth mentioning, since they play IWAY, and therefore are not playing a build worth mentioning.
rii
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnngggggggg ggggggggg -.-
balanced team ftw.
balanced team ftw.
glenn_rolfe
Quote:
Originally Posted by tafy69
Out:
Spike Teams : Not common anymore, partly because every team brings infuse health nowadays
In:
Balanced Teams : They are making a comeback and rightly so
IWAY : Yes IWAY is here to stay and doing well for themselves
Surge Teams : Everyone hates them but they are still around. IWAY has evolved a bit, but still laughable.
Spike teams are less and less because everyone is carrying fertile/symbiosis and after a few early kills by spikes can wrestle control of them
Surge is back bigger and better than ever which I kinda like.
Balanced - yeah sort of. The nuker is around a lot because of alter strategies.
All in all I think the builds of the good teams now are quit good and A-net's rebalancing of the game has been positive.
Spike Teams : Not common anymore, partly because every team brings infuse health nowadays
In:
Balanced Teams : They are making a comeback and rightly so
IWAY : Yes IWAY is here to stay and doing well for themselves
Surge Teams : Everyone hates them but they are still around. IWAY has evolved a bit, but still laughable.
Spike teams are less and less because everyone is carrying fertile/symbiosis and after a few early kills by spikes can wrestle control of them
Surge is back bigger and better than ever which I kinda like.
Balanced - yeah sort of. The nuker is around a lot because of alter strategies.
All in all I think the builds of the good teams now are quit good and A-net's rebalancing of the game has been positive.
Merry Madrigal
Yep, balanced teams, or teams with good balance and a great variety of counters plus their own unique niche, seem to be doing very well in Tombs lately.
One of the Euro teams has been doing really well in the afternoons - Swedish Saviors or something (that's not right I know) - I haven't run into them but would be interested to hear what build they are running.
One of the Euro teams has been doing really well in the afternoons - Swedish Saviors or something (that's not right I know) - I haven't run into them but would be interested to hear what build they are running.
LotharOvsothian
the last time i fought with Nyog in tombs we fought them running a pretty decent massive-degen build. as for WN, we tend to lean more towards balanced builds and every now-and-then we'll go towards ranger spike (most of us are pretty sick of it :P). we're trying to shake off the rep we got for running IWAY >.< WE DONT RUN IWAY ANY MORE come on guys lol.
~lothar
~lothar
ImBobNewbie
Quote:
Originally Posted by glenn_rolfe
IWAY has evolved a bit, but still laughable.
Spike teams are less and less because everyone is carrying fertile/symbiosis and after a few early kills by spikes can wrestle control of them
Surge is back bigger and better than ever which I kinda like.
Balanced - yeah sort of. The nuker is around a lot because of alter strategies.
All in all I think the builds of the good teams now are quit good and A-net's rebalancing of the game has been positive. I held halls over 10 times recently using a balanced spike ... so I'm not really sure what you guys mean. My spike group, being a balanced spike, was prepared to handle with a spirit spammer. And the infuse... you target him whenever possible. Their prot monk won't be able to help with prot spirit with my own group has 3-5 enchant removals.
Anyway, I would not recommend ranger spike for a non ranked group. The point of ranger spike is to drop an enemy in less than 2 seconds, not to randomly shoot arrows as most non ranked groups will do.
For rank 0-2 group, IWAY is easiest fame if you play it properly (with spirits unlocked lol), but you can try balance build if you want.
One random balance build:
2 heal monk (1 infuse)
1 active prot monk
2 surge/enery burn/sig of weariness mesmer (it may be hard to find a decent non ranked mes that knows when to cast the energy denials..)
2 tiger's fury axe warriors
1 earth ele (quake, as, wards)
if you find competent surge mesmers, the other team should slowly drop since their heal monks will only have 0-4 energy
Spike teams are less and less because everyone is carrying fertile/symbiosis and after a few early kills by spikes can wrestle control of them
Surge is back bigger and better than ever which I kinda like.
Balanced - yeah sort of. The nuker is around a lot because of alter strategies.
All in all I think the builds of the good teams now are quit good and A-net's rebalancing of the game has been positive. I held halls over 10 times recently using a balanced spike ... so I'm not really sure what you guys mean. My spike group, being a balanced spike, was prepared to handle with a spirit spammer. And the infuse... you target him whenever possible. Their prot monk won't be able to help with prot spirit with my own group has 3-5 enchant removals.
Anyway, I would not recommend ranger spike for a non ranked group. The point of ranger spike is to drop an enemy in less than 2 seconds, not to randomly shoot arrows as most non ranked groups will do.
For rank 0-2 group, IWAY is easiest fame if you play it properly (with spirits unlocked lol), but you can try balance build if you want.
One random balance build:
2 heal monk (1 infuse)
1 active prot monk
2 surge/enery burn/sig of weariness mesmer (it may be hard to find a decent non ranked mes that knows when to cast the energy denials..)
2 tiger's fury axe warriors
1 earth ele (quake, as, wards)
if you find competent surge mesmers, the other team should slowly drop since their heal monks will only have 0-4 energy
E Power
I have a few friends who are in pRp; I boosted my rank up to 2 in one day when playing with pRp.
Hannibel
Run Hamstorm Warriors, They"re Great!!!!
yc525
fosa probably wins more than any of those guilds
Timoz
Standard pug build ive ran and held for approx 20 times in last 2 days:
2 mesmers (illusion, migrane covered by malaise/phantasm)
1 warrior (tigers fury)
1 elementist (earth or fire, i prefer earth)
1 necromancer (spiteful, Mark of pain etc.)
1 Heal monk (spellbraker & heal party)
1 Heal monk (Word of healing & another heal party)
1 Prot monk ( Restore conditions/Martyr depending on how good they are)
No offence to lower ranks but it probably will not work with other low ranks as most have limited experience with iway & spike.
As for this guy from math, if you want respect make your own builds as my guild always do, dont claim you are good winning with one big fat lame build.
2 mesmers (illusion, migrane covered by malaise/phantasm)
1 warrior (tigers fury)
1 elementist (earth or fire, i prefer earth)
1 necromancer (spiteful, Mark of pain etc.)
1 Heal monk (spellbraker & heal party)
1 Heal monk (Word of healing & another heal party)
1 Prot monk ( Restore conditions/Martyr depending on how good they are)
No offence to lower ranks but it probably will not work with other low ranks as most have limited experience with iway & spike.
As for this guy from math, if you want respect make your own builds as my guild always do, dont claim you are good winning with one big fat lame build.