what's up with the 20% rockmoulder?

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allience
allience
Krytan Explorer
#1
sry for the newb question but can sum1 plz expalin to me what's the deal with the 20% rockmoulders?
i mean 20% rockmoulders stoped spawning or sometimes u find 10% sometimes 20%?
Takeko Nakano
Takeko Nakano
Wilds Pathfinder
#2
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Originally Posted by allience
sry for the newb question but can sum1 plz expalin to me what's the deal with the 20% rockmoulders?
i mean 20% rockmoulders stoped spawning or sometimes u find 10% sometimes 20%?
This should be in the Q&A section.

However, the answer is that ANet changed the item so that you only get a 10% bonus, as they decided 20% was too high. However that only affected new drops - ones obtained before the update stayed at 20%.
Jetdoc
Jetdoc
Hell's Protector
#3
Yep. The problem with the old Rockmolder is the fact that it requires 9 Illusion Magic. If you don't have the requirement (i.e. because you are a Domination/Inspiration Mesmer - the most common types), then the energy bonus is a lousy 3 versus the max 12 you normally get. As such, the old Rockmolder is a great tool for illusion mesmers...otherwise, it's not too great.
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crimsonfilms
Wilds Pathfinder
#4
No. Rockmolder was nerfed because its was 20% on EVERY skill - not just one attribute skill set you get from other items.
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Mahanaxar
Krytan Explorer
#5
Is another brilliant move from Anet like Denravi swords.

You know, to balance things...
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crimsonfilms
Wilds Pathfinder
#6
If you are implying that it should not be nerfed - then I disagree. EVERY skill 20/20 bonus is too much. Even a staff does not have that kind of power.
Also, by not removing it to those who already have I think it add another dimension to the economy - you know nerfed things like Dwarven, Denravi Sword, etc, etc.

If you are implying they screwed up on design by putting it in the first place - you are correct of course. I guess they know that too since they did nerf it.
Garumn
Garumn
Academy Page
#7
well basically buy those Rockmolders now, or they ll be like 400k in few months time
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Mahanaxar
Krytan Explorer
#8
Crimson obviously it should be nerfed.
Nerfed and *completely* removed from the game, as long with Denravi swords and +xx% unconditional weapons from months ago.
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Ellix Cantero
Lion's Arch Merchant
#9
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Originally Posted by Mahanaxar
Crimson obviously it should be nerfed.
Nerfed and *completely* removed from the game, as long with Denravi swords and +xx% unconditional weapons from months ago.
You mean +xx% damage weapons? I found a +12% damage (unconditional) axe a few days ago . . .
striderkaaru
striderkaaru
Desert Nomad
#10
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Originally Posted by Ellix Cantero
You mean +xx% damage weapons? I found a +12% damage (unconditional) axe a few days ago . . .
those weapons usually come with negative side effects, such as -5 energy, -10 armor, -1 hp/energy regen. the truly unconditional ones are very rare and are rumored to no longer drop.
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crimsonfilms
Wilds Pathfinder
#11
Nerfed? Yes!
Completely remove? I don't know. I kind of like having these things in the game - legendary "uber" weapons.

You know, 5 months from now "Yeah I heard Lulu the Monk was carrying Henge sword with a Rockmolder when they beat Uni in the semifinals."

12% unconditional I think still exists. 14/15% do not - 99% positive on that.
14/15% negative is either -10 armor, -5 energy or -1 health degen.
fiery
fiery
Banned
#12
20/20 to 20/10 not much but its gone. sold mine for 60 k. just a quick sell to make gold.
jesh
jesh
Forge Runner
#13
I know someone in game who claims to have aquired a sword with +30% damage, constant.. I'll have to see it to believe it. ~.~
That's even better than those +14% ones, and I just don't see it happening, but he seemed elated when he finally got enough gold to buy it. I don't know. If he customized it, that would be a sword with +50%.. quite scary, neh?
Maxiemonster
Maxiemonster
There is no spoon.
#14
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Originally Posted by jesh
I know someone in game who claims to have aquired a sword with +30% damage, constant.. I'll have to see it to believe it. ~.~
That's even better than those +14% ones, and I just don't see it happening, but he seemed elated when he finally got enough gold to buy it. I don't know. If he customized it, that would be a sword with +50%.. quite scary, neh?
That you even think the chance excist he has it. It's nonsence, he doesn't.
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Amused Observer
Frost Gate Guardian
#15
The idea behind using a 20/20 rockmolder is to increase the recharge time for spells. If I'm running an Elementalist relying on a spell like Meteor Shower, I can use the rockmolder to reduce the recharge time on it significantly. Not meeting the 9 Illusion magic requirement for the energy benefit wouldn't be an issue since you'll be putting some points in energy storage.
Evil Hypnotist
Evil Hypnotist
Frost Gate Guardian
#16
I'm sure I saw somewhere on these forums that the 20% variety has been discontinued.....
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dargon
Furnace Stoker
#17
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Originally Posted by Maxiemonster
That you even think the chance excist he has it. It's nonsence, he doesn't.
Well he might, but I'd be inclinced to think that it's got +10% by default and then he's customized it.
RYCHER969
RYCHER969
Lion's Arch Merchant
#18
Amused,

Are you stating you get the 20% recharge even if you DONT have illusion at 9? Basically any charecter type can get the benefit? someone please clarify for me
unienaule
unienaule
I dunt even get "Retired"
#19
Yes, you get the 20% recharge with any attribute setup.
Shimus DarkRaven
Shimus DarkRaven
Desert Nomad
#20
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Originally Posted by RYCHER969
Amused,

Are you stating you get the 20% recharge even if you DONT have illusion at 9? Basically any charecter type can get the benefit? someone please clarify for me
Recharge relies on "having" said skill line in your bar, so for anyone getting it, nope. As for below req, yes, you still get all the effects on the weapon, you just don't hit for max damage that you could have normally with 9 in it.

I dunno if that answered rightly unless a 20% recharge means on everything and doesn't specify "illusion magic" In which case, yes it does work.

--The Shim