QZ : The near unusable.

Disagree With you

in PvP QZ is very viable in my opinion
Play Smart not Harder

since as u say they find it well dont u have obstacles to hide it?
even if its 25 energy u can run it
Spirit Spamming is still Possible not as efficient as it used to be but it still works and lets say you are not using spirit spamming tactic?

QZ require a very specific build, while it does not require a very specific build to stop it.

and lets say you are not using spirit spamming tactic?

QZ require a very specific build, while it does not require a very specific build to stop it. QZ is the most powerful thing to help with energy denial, if you can keep it up the enemy won't have any energy(Mantra of Inscriptions+QZ+Echo+Signet of Weariness...).

If it requires a specific build, doesn't mean that it's bad. 14 in Expertise and it'll cost 11 energy, with Oath Shot it's really not hard to keep up.

Some people here need to consider reading classes.

"Nearly" unusable. Obviously I know you can use with spirit spam, and expertise, DUH? Get a grip guys, have you EVER consider using it outside of expertise and OS? Probably not, since most of you just copy other people's build.

Please don't post any more "copied idea" in here.

If you do got a creative use for QZ that is not today's standard, please make your comment.

Now I probably sounds like an arrogant elitist, but the truth is, I do not want any typical crap the society is using. I push for outside the box, and this thread made for the purpose of pushing out of the box. So you say the skill is nearly unusable....because it is used mostly in popular builds, therefore doesn't count? The same can be said for half the skills in the game.

Example: Work Awaken the Blood into a Minion Master/Death only Necromancer build and I'll give you a cookie. Acutally - Work it into ANY build that doesn't use mostly Blood or curse magic and you'll get your cookie. (Your response: OMG - You only use Awaken the blood when using blood and curse skills?, THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX you build copier.")

Sorry...I just cant see your logic.

Now I probably sounds like an arrogant elitist, but the truth is, I do not want any typical crap the society is using. I push for outside the box, and this thread made for the purpose of pushing out of the box. If you don't want any crap the society is using, why write here? Why don't you lock yourself in an abandoned tower and there, there you can create your evil build.

So you say the skill is nearly unusable....because it is used mostly in popular builds, therefore doesn't count? The same can be said for half the skills in the game.

Example: Work Awaken the Blood into a Minion Master/Death only Necromancer build and I'll give you a cookie. Acutally - Work it into ANY build that doesn't use mostly Blood or curse magic and you'll get your cookie. (Your response: OMG - You only use Awaken the blood when using blood and curse skills?, THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX you build copier.")

Sorry...I just cant see your logic. I can see why you don't get it, obviously you can not appreciate thinking outside the box. Yes, I constantly try things that shouldn't have fit together, and that is the point of this topic. If no one ever try to fit different things togethher, no new build is going to be discover.

Now if you are not going to post something more interesting than saying "this skill can only do this" or "I don't see your logic" then don't post anymore. I won't even bother replying to you after this, unless it is something related to the topic.

If you don't want any crap the society is using, why write here? Why don't you lock yourself in an abandoned tower and there, there you can create your evil build. Perhaps you are right. I had been doing that ever since when the game was released, now I just want to see if people get more grip in creativity. Apparently not, very disappointing.

Even my guild couldn't reach my expectation of exploring the possibility, no surprise I left the guild and decided to be guildless.

Perhaps you are right. I had been doing that ever since when the game was released, now I just want to see if people get more grip in creativity. Apparently not, very disappointing.

Even my guild couldn't reach my expectation of exploring the possibility, no surprise I left the guild and decided to be guildless. Actually I am trying to be creative. However I'm not trying to create the only and first build of the type ever.
Maybe we should exchange some builds some day...

Actually I am trying to be creative. However I'm not trying to create the only and first build of the type ever.
Maybe we should exchange some builds some day... Most of my build already spread into the community as I am using it in the comp arena (tomb is out of the question as the chance of getting people and guidless). Also I don't claim for discovering a build, because that is just kind of stupid and unfair to people who had thought of it themselves later.

If you got a theme idea, I will be glad to help. However, if it is just an existant build that need a few twist, I am sure one person alone is capable of fixing it.

Perhaps you are right. I had been doing that ever since when the game was released, now I just want to see if people get more grip in creativity. Apparently not, very disappointing.

Even my guild couldn't reach my expectation of exploring the possibility, no surprise I left the guild and decided to be guildless. Ohh I see how you are. Just like an emo person. The REASON people run specific builds is because they are more efficient/better than other ones. Run your creative/utter crap/subpar builds. Get owned by the typical X build and whine about it. The people who came up with the fragility build were creative. The people who came up with IWAY were creative. The people who came up with Spirit Spam were creative. And you know what half of the creative builds got nerfed! Get over it people are not gonna waste time creating builds that are subpar but "creative". If it is a creative build that Anet hasn't thought of it gets nerfed. I'm not saying spirit spam shouldn't be nerfed it needed to be for game balance. I relate it to emo people because ANTI-CONFORMITY=CONFORMITY God stop trying to say I want to think outside the box. People much better/smarter at this game have done it. It leads them to create some of the best/most efficient builds and then people simply copy the best.

Haha, now I see a better reason for this topic. A good laugh. The moment I saw there was yet another new reply, I was interested to hopfully see an interesting reply. Then I saw it and tried to read it, then I laughed. Why? Because I am asking myself why do I even bother? It is laughable.

Anyway, I will just ignore any post that is not related to skill/build. Anyone try to post anymore like those above, you are really an idiot. I hope I won't see people trying to come in to show others that he/she is an idiot (why are you posting those kind of crap when I already wrote that I will ignore it? Idiotic indeed). If you don't want that tag, post something interesting.

Tell me something I don't know. You just responded to it OMG n00bed.
In the middle of halls do you think people are going to be able to go and look around for the spirit? It has its uses and its not totally nerfed. It just requires more skill to use. Melandru's resilience has been tried and tested it doesn't work. Yes you get more energy but are you really just going to let tons of hexes and conditions sit on you? REally? Hiding the spirit isn't that hard to do on some tombs maps. Not every skill can be used everywhere. It has specific uses but that doesn't mean its nerfed.

right... and teams that don't use conditions the monks are comletely screwed... great idea. signet of devotion is too slow for any normal healing for starters...

as for the rest of your posts, have fun being so 1337 and unique :rollseyes: you do sound like a snob, and no overly surprisingly you're guildless.. then again it does sound like you are doing people a favour If u put things together, you will know that QZ and Serpent quickness both can increase recharge of devotion. Also, since when do I say signet of devotion is the only thing I use? I still have 4 other slots considering rez sig is a standard. Having able to save energy for most of the time is devotion, and using more faster heal when in urgent... This is where playing skills as a monk play off, I defintely don't recommend newbie using it. There are only few hex out there that can stop signet, and we know what those are. The only time it might be harsh is when it is either an interrupt ranger or an interrupt warrior 24/7 babysitting you, but then everyone has that problem. Some may argue that having 5 hex on you is very bad. However, with Melandru's resilence, sometimes yes, sometimes no... that completely depend on the situation. I would defintely not run into a fight completely without hex removal, that would just too unbalanced.

That build however, was ignored and ceased to develope further. Then I moved onto other build soon after (I can't stay focus with the same build for more than a week, that means each week I do get to play, it is a completely new build... or else the game is boring). Now that my mind came back to it, I might work on it a bit more. Then perhaps not, cause I don't play GW all that often anymore (running out of ideas for it).

You didn't even try to explore the idea. And the time a monk that is not stacked with hex and condition, that game is already won.

I have appreciation, and also furstration, it deeply annoy me when I had to hand fish to people when the fish is right under their nose. I would really appreciate it if people explore more deeply into things, I would also apreciate for trying, but neither of those two condition are even close to being met.

The reason I left my guild was due to that none of my ideas was even taken a least respect, I would post 8+ builds, and contribute modification, yet I am still viewed as a lowly just a slave member while also being ignored in guild chat. Who wouldn't one leave? You would have to be some kind of budha or idiot to stay. I wasn't even annoying, nor was I that talkative, and I also answer just about every question and help any guild member in need. They didn't complain about my existance yet I do not exist or so it seems. They were way too focused with voice chat to give anyone who is typing a chance, ridiculous reason. So wth, it is past.

And I find many guild's recruiting method to be completely bad and wrong. They would first view you as an individual and pay respect to you as one, then the moment you just the guild, BAM! You just realize you are trash, they are just getting some numbers.

Now you see, how hard is it to get people to look outside the box? Nearly impossible? I might agree with that.